sonomamashine
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Op, Buy Street Fighter V, there are plenty of fighting styles to be inspired of, i suggest you start with Ryu to learn the basics.
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Flying Toaster
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No matter how bad ass you are the world really is Dragon Ball and someone is always more powerful. But the suggestions of joining a gym, studying and working out are all great starts.
Basic brawls though are always up in the air someone will try to do something insane.
Basic brawls though are always up in the air someone will try to do something insane.
joe_zazen
Member
Yeah, idk. De-escalation and avoiding situations (3am drunk chinatown stuff). Because even if you know haow to fight, the guy may have friends and once you get swarmed, you will be fucked up. dont try be a bad ass hero.
I used to hang with some crazy folk until that 3 am situation happened. when i saw a buddy getting pistol whipped, I left. One guy lost 8 teeth, broken bones, but it could have been worse. I am much more conservative now, and i avoid physical conflict wherever i can
I used to hang with some crazy folk until that 3 am situation happened. when i saw a buddy getting pistol whipped, I left. One guy lost 8 teeth, broken bones, but it could have been worse. I am much more conservative now, and i avoid physical conflict wherever i can
nkarafo
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Boxing is the simplest and most effective/practical. I practiced a few other fighting skills but the issue is that many of them can have moves and techniques that you need to remember how to do and apply correctly. Which isn't ideal when you are in a stressful situation where you gotta act fast. Boxing is the only one i tried where everything i learned comes out almost automatically, without me thinking or trying to remember stuff.
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luffie
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https://www.cracked.com/personal-ex...d-to-know-about-self-defense-from-expert.html
This would be a nice read about fighting.
This would be a nice read about fighting.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The only advice I can give you from getting into scraps every year up to grade 11, and that includes fights in the field, on the concrete schoolyard, in the park and locker room........
........ all I did was grab his shirt/collar, never let go and head hunt as fast and hard as possible. I don't think I ever did a body punch or kick. As yoj grab the guy with your left hand, you can also use your left elbow to kind of block his punches from his right hand by lifting your elbow a bit.
The only random attack I did was one asshole bugging me during winter and pushed that fuck face down an icy slope and fell hard right to the bottom. Looking back, I could have killed the guy, but he lived. lol
Worked like a charm every time....... except when I tried it against a guy a grade or two above me and got slaughtered! Pushed my luck too hard in that one. lol
........ all I did was grab his shirt/collar, never let go and head hunt as fast and hard as possible. I don't think I ever did a body punch or kick. As yoj grab the guy with your left hand, you can also use your left elbow to kind of block his punches from his right hand by lifting your elbow a bit.
The only random attack I did was one asshole bugging me during winter and pushed that fuck face down an icy slope and fell hard right to the bottom. Looking back, I could have killed the guy, but he lived. lol
Worked like a charm every time....... except when I tried it against a guy a grade or two above me and got slaughtered! Pushed my luck too hard in that one. lol
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TheMan
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I don't understand your reasoning at the end. By running you avoided getting hurt, avoided hurting the other guy (thus avoiding potential liability and/or legal action). You're ok, your family is ok, and presumably the police took care of the situation. Why do you wish you had fucked him up? Things could have turned out very differently had you decided to fight back- one well-placed punch could kill someone.
Like, the way you handled the situation resulted in the optimal outcome all around.
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sonomamashine
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Barnabot
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before wanting to throw punches and kicks learn also how to defend yourself. learn how to block. learn how to evade an attack. learn how to take a hit. how to fall and not getting severely injured. how to avoid engaging into a fight. only when fighting is inevitable or you have to protect people from getting harmed by others then prepare to bring the world of pain through fighting.
Tesseract
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sonomamashine
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bronk
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This is great advice and completely agree.Most people can't fight.
I agree 100% withEviLore that BJJ or wrestling are great tools for 1v1 fights as you will be able to control position and subdue your opponent long enough to allow yourself to safely escape or await help. Being able to live spar without endangering your brain is a huge advantage to grappling arts as well.
That being said, it doesn't take long to learn how to throw some decent straight punches via boxing training. It's true that you will need to do some sparing to work on your timing and distance but within 8 weeks most people can learn to throw a decent 1-2 that will end a lot of street fights pretty quickly.
I'm never gonna pretend to be some kind of badass but I have very quickly ended a number of 'street fights' simply by landing a stiff jab and a strong right hand over the years and it really doesn't take long to learn the basic fundamentals of boxing (although obviously it'll take a lifetime to master the art).
I now have over 10 years combined of Boxing and Muay Thai training so am reasonably confident in my abilities but it really didn't take long at all to learn the basics and for 90% of 1 on 1 street fights the basics should be enough to see you through.
sonomamashine
Member
My opinion on this, you must have some courage and that's it, there are plenty of people who don't apply their training in real street fight because they get scared (they froze) or it doesn't fit, just freestyle it.
Martial arts is a fantastic hobby, but I do wonder how helpful it would really be.
Effectively, I'd imagine it would only ever really help if...
- you fight exactly one opponent
- they're not using any weapons (I know they teach you how to fight against someone carrying a knife for example, but would it really be smart to risk that?)
- you're willing to gamble they're not carrying any hidden weapons either
- your opponent is roughly your same height and weight
- you're willing to gamble that your fighting skills are significantly better than your opponent's (and realistically, out of all of boneheads out there looking to provoke/start a fight - many will themselves know some form of martial arts)
I mean sure, if you plan to retreat to a tibetian monastery for the next 20 years to become the next kung fu legend, you might be able to handle such scenarios.
But I'd assume any normal martial arts enthusiast would still run a very high chance of getting their ass handed to them or worse, if any of those constraints don't line up.
Any of that wrong? If not, I'd say if concerned, probably better to just pack some sort of weapon of self defense, depending what's legally allowed for you)
Effectively, I'd imagine it would only ever really help if...
- you fight exactly one opponent
- they're not using any weapons (I know they teach you how to fight against someone carrying a knife for example, but would it really be smart to risk that?)
- you're willing to gamble they're not carrying any hidden weapons either
- your opponent is roughly your same height and weight
- you're willing to gamble that your fighting skills are significantly better than your opponent's (and realistically, out of all of boneheads out there looking to provoke/start a fight - many will themselves know some form of martial arts)
I mean sure, if you plan to retreat to a tibetian monastery for the next 20 years to become the next kung fu legend, you might be able to handle such scenarios.
But I'd assume any normal martial arts enthusiast would still run a very high chance of getting their ass handed to them or worse, if any of those constraints don't line up.
Any of that wrong? If not, I'd say if concerned, probably better to just pack some sort of weapon of self defense, depending what's legally allowed for you)
quickwhips
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I’ve been in 3 fights. Twice were 1 on 1. The. Once i got robbed\jumped buying cigarettes in a bad neighborhood as i showed money accidentally when paying. Another reason to bit smoke. I lost 1. Won 1 and i would say robbing was a tie as they only got my cell phone that fell out during the fight but not my money.
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MaestroMike
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i'd just run, but if I can't run my endurance is usually on point so I'd just try to gas out anyone bigger than me and keep an eye on their facial expressions and body movement. cardio/conditioning wins in the end the longer the bout. the bigger the dude is, the bigger muscles they have the faster they should gas out, you just gotta focus on not getting fukking hit lol otherwise game over son. then later in the bout u can start putting in the pressure to gas them out even further and go for the tko/submission. but if i know I'm not energized and haven't carboloaded in a few days I'm avoiding all potential conflicts. get ur nutrition and energy management game on point too can't throw punches or wrestle much if theres no fuel in the tank. also get one of these:
still just avoid fights and run away if ur by urself and can. strangers may have a deadly weapon. if ur with like a kid or gf or wife, u probably gotta stand ur ground and let them go somewhere safe first unless its a kid. then u probably gotta stand ur ground and go into super mama bear berserk mode and get ready to battle.
still just avoid fights and run away if ur by urself and can. strangers may have a deadly weapon. if ur with like a kid or gf or wife, u probably gotta stand ur ground and let them go somewhere safe first unless its a kid. then u probably gotta stand ur ground and go into super mama bear berserk mode and get ready to battle.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Why are you starting altercations
triplestation
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i believe some people just have the sheer strength and aggression to fuck shit up without any training
i think one could know how to fight and still get fucked up by these "naturals"
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Yup.
i believe some people just have the sheer strength and aggression to fuck shit up without any training
i think one could know how to fight and still get fucked up by these "naturals"
That's called psycho power. Some people have it, some don't. Makes no difference if you're an MMA fighter or not. And in a real fight, there's no refs, padded gloves or code of conduct. Ever get into a scrap and you or the other guy purposely makes a fist with the F finger (edit: I meant middle joint) sticking out a bit? You know why? So can destroy a guys eyeball with a direct hit. A normal closed fist can't do that if you hit a guy square. Will make any guy drop.
Punch one guy in the face and he goes down. Punch another guy and he's stunned a bit. Punch a different guy, it has zero effect, pisses him off and his strength just doubled...... run or get a baseball bat.
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
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You did the right thing, avoid and live free for another day. It's easy to hit and permanently damage or kill someone, who needs that in their life. Honestly avoiding a fight even when in one is still a great move, the smart move even. It takes more of man to walk away than it does to outright beat the shit out of someone.
I had an opposite reaction years ago as a teenage. I'm 6'1" and have a rubgy dad so I'm fairly built but a mate just got his road bike and was being held up by a bunch of assholes after we had been at a pool hall. He called my phone and it was just background noise (he dialled as he was in trouble and just had the phone on hoping we'd hear and come to his aid) and I heard the asshats saying they weren't going to let him go until he did a burn out. So I ran up from my carpark to the front where this was going down and after some posturing and pushing the bigger group let us be finally.
As our friends followed up and chatted/calmed my mate the group had circled around and come back behind us from the shadows. I see a "leader" out in front with all the others fanned out behind him and specifically two guys carrying full beer bottles. They're about to involve us in a brawl in a bad way, no doubt. I know I have a fight response these days (and actively avoid it on purpose) but back then it was one of the first times it kicked in. I moved well forward of our group to line myself up the leader as we had a number of girls with us who were shitting themselves at this point and I know a couple of my mates have never been in a fight before. So I attacked first and floored the leader jackass with a king hit to the nose. Guy out cold and blood coming out, I calmingly asked who's next and killed the entire brawl before it happened. They left.
I bring this story up as a warning, it's not the right thing to do. It could have gone really really bad. I got lucky and was on instinct alone to finish it before it started. Your story is the right thing to do, just avoid. We should have just left the moment my buddy was released and talked about it elsewhere, avoiding the whole thing together. What if I did real damage to the guy? What if I got a bottle to the head myself?
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LisaMariaMartin
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You can train all you want but if your opponent gets mad and pulls out his gun/knife/friends after he gets his ass whooped, you're fucked.
It's never worth it to stand your ground unless you're backed up against a wall. Fight to create an opening to run. Fuck ego. Just run. It's not worth it getting stabbed or shot.
It's never worth it to stand your ground unless you're backed up against a wall. Fight to create an opening to run. Fuck ego. Just run. It's not worth it getting stabbed or shot.
sonomamashine
Member
Just have a laugh, dont take it as trolling.Epic troll or epic fail, tell I cannot.
It's funny either way though
We are all friends here.
Lol btw thats how i do shoryus, its the same thing.
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Mistershine.
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The rule I follow and have told my kids is:
Don't start fights, assholes start fights.
If you're in a situation where you're faced with just such an asshole then we move onto a different rule:
Win. You do whatever you have to do to make sure you're the one that walks away. Punch, kick, bite, gouge, pull hair, whatever.
Don't start fights, assholes start fights.
If you're in a situation where you're faced with just such an asshole then we move onto a different rule:
Win. You do whatever you have to do to make sure you're the one that walks away. Punch, kick, bite, gouge, pull hair, whatever.
Romulus
Member
I think you did fine. Some of those tweakers are ridiculously strong because of the substances your own. And he could have easily been armed.
I will say reading your story something came to mind. If someone is on your heels chasing you, instead of turning around and striking, wait until they're close enough and turn with a full force back fist using your momentum. Almost like a spinning backfist but since your already turning anyway use that motion to your advantage. I faked a mini retreat outnumbered just to use that, but don't take your eyes off them. I only landed one successfuly and it was devastating, but only tried it twice. I noticed the time that I missed it was really close and backed them off because that motion is extremely powerful. You literally can keep covering your tracks in a retreat.
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TDiddyLive
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Stun Ring - Streetwise Sting Ring - This is a Must See Stun Gun!
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Spark it up and they won’t want to fight.
Mistershine.
Banned
No way am I putting my cock in that. I'd rather let a danger hair rape me.
Stun Ring - Streetwise Sting Ring - This is a Must See Stun Gun!
The Stun Ring is a new design and concept in electric self defense. The Stun Ring is easily concealable and simple to operate, one squeeze of the fist supercharges and delivers a powerful shock unto your attacker.
Spark it up and they won’t want to fight.
TDiddyLive
Member
Don’t knock it ‘til you try it. Cock + electricity = bad guy runs away or you make a new friend.
eot
Banned
Boxing - it teaches you how to actually punch someone out, and how to not get punched yourself. Or, in the event that you get hit, makes you somewhat used to it so you don't get shocked. You don't need some kind of fancy martial art that you train in completely unrealistic scenarios, and you don't want something where you end up on the ground.
Whatever you choose, it needs to be a sport where you actually spar people, for real.
Whatever you choose, it needs to be a sport where you actually spar people, for real.
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VN1X
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Fighting is 80% about who will get vicious.
Martial arts movies and watching UFC on TV have conditioned most people to play-fight, and most don't instinctually want to be in a fight at all. In a real scrap you wanna go all out. Jab your middle finger into their eyes, punch ears, spine, pull back their elbows, kick the sides of their knees, punch the neck, headbutt their nose/teeth, use your elbows at every opportunity, bend/crack any finger you can grab, stomp on their toes with your heel. Do whatever you can as quickly as you can to hurt the other person as much as you can.
That was very detailed.
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DunDunDunpachi
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That was very detailed.
Raven117
Member
Woah!
You did the right thing. You were unharmed, your family was unharmed, and the obviously tweaked out dude was unharmed. That is a damn fine way to win a fight.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
The BJJ and Krav Maga schools/gyms will tell you this but go and stay low. High kicks are for show unless you're as fast as Bruce Lee and can hide your telegraphing well. Hit the shins, knees, hamstring, hips... And hit the soft spots like the throat, groin... Get them to the ground (and only them) ... And escape...
If you're defending someone else (GF, wife, child) then make sure after they're on the ground, break a leg or arm or something... Incapacitate them so they can't get up to retaliate since you would be slower to escape with someone else.
If you're defending someone else (GF, wife, child) then make sure after they're on the ground, break a leg or arm or something... Incapacitate them so they can't get up to retaliate since you would be slower to escape with someone else.
Neolombax
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I've trained for Silat for about 4 years during my university years, and the first lesson that they will teach you is if its possible, when you get into a fight, run away. Only engage when cornered. Nobody wants that to really happen in real life really, You could easily maim people in a fight if you know which limbs to aim for and which points are weakest. I'd say go train for martial arts because it gives you self confidence, self control and most importantly teaches you discipline.
PanzerAzel
Member
I’m chronically ill and disabled (my left arm is largely gimped and my muscles on my left chest, shoulder and back are all extremely atrophied), so if I’m getting into a fight, it’s not good prospects. I’m very proactive about what situations I allow myself to get into and focus on awareness.
I’ve really let go of my pride and ego. I’ll apologize, even if I’m in the right....it’s no big deal. Unless my life or someone I care for is in danger, it’s simply not worth it. If someone insulted someone I was with that would be different, but luckily I’ve managed to avoid that.
I don’t much enjoy violence.
I’ve really let go of my pride and ego. I’ll apologize, even if I’m in the right....it’s no big deal. Unless my life or someone I care for is in danger, it’s simply not worth it. If someone insulted someone I was with that would be different, but luckily I’ve managed to avoid that.
I don’t much enjoy violence.
sonomamashine
Member
Let him be the Nature.
Silent Duck
Member
If WWE has taught me anything, you can never lose with a spear.
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V2Tommy
Member
If WWE has taught me anything, you can never lose with a spear.
Right? They never do spears in MMA and I’ve always wanted to see it.
Okay guys, just in case you missed it, let that sink in....
Any handy handgun can take any BJJ master in second.
And if you're not defending yourself against a deadly threat, you've suicided your own life in the process.
Knowing unarmed self-defense isn't just about crushing the other guy (which should be avoided whenever possible). You'll build confidence, strength, and discipline, which other people will pick up on immediately and be less likely to start shit with you. You'll be able to deescalate or control situations to avoid outcomes that seriously damage either party.
A gun isn't the answer to most scenarios we end up in in day to day life.
FreedomOfSpeech
Banned
Some more krav maga today. I hope I get better at it cause I kinda stink, the other guys all see my attacks coming a mile away and then sorta bitchslap me. At least it's a good workout. Granted, I'm still a noob.
DrJohnGalt
Banned
EDIT: I replied before I read most of the others, and I see most of my thoughts have already been covered. But I'm too lazy to change or add to my reply.
I don't know of any videos but I'd recommend finding a krav maga school in your area. It teaches how to fight in the real world (unlike most martial arts). It also teaches how to deal with weapons (knives, guns, sticks, etc) and the place I go does extra stuff like how to deal with a carjacker or specific situations what to do if you're getting choked (or raped if you're a woman) or how to defend against multiple opponents.
Also teaches how to know when to run and how to actually buy time to get safely away from the situation.
One thing that's important to learning to fight well that's often overlooked is live sparring. You need to know what it feels like (and get over your fears and uncertainties) both hitting somebody and getting hit by somebody.
One thing I will add is training like wresting or BBJ tends to put you on the ground, and that's typically not the place you want to be fighting, especially if there are multiple people there. Just something to consider.
I don't know of any videos but I'd recommend finding a krav maga school in your area. It teaches how to fight in the real world (unlike most martial arts). It also teaches how to deal with weapons (knives, guns, sticks, etc) and the place I go does extra stuff like how to deal with a carjacker or specific situations what to do if you're getting choked (or raped if you're a woman) or how to defend against multiple opponents.
Also teaches how to know when to run and how to actually buy time to get safely away from the situation.
One thing that's important to learning to fight well that's often overlooked is live sparring. You need to know what it feels like (and get over your fears and uncertainties) both hitting somebody and getting hit by somebody.
One thing I will add is training like wresting or BBJ tends to put you on the ground, and that's typically not the place you want to be fighting, especially if there are multiple people there. Just something to consider.
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Fushitsusha
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Was his name Johnny Sasaki?
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