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Media Create Sales: November 22-28

duckroll

Member
spwolf said:
how..not predictable :).

I understand MHP3 selling 2.1m first week, but 330k for PSP? I dont get it... it is not like MHP3 wasnt on PSP before so people jumped in.

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Acosta

Member
duckroll said:
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201012/07036609.html

Enterbrain first week sales for MHP3: 2,146,467

PSP total hardware sales in the week (including Go): 326,639

Fantastic.

PSP keeps having a very healthy flow of nice games that appeal to Japanese gamers, so aside of the people who has bought the bundle, I think MH3 could have been the catalyst for many players on the fence jumping in.

Sony should really try to convince Capcom to keep Monster Hunter exclusive for PSP2 by any means, it's probably their main opportunity to make sure the system has chances in Japan.
 
Would be interesting if we got breakdown of PSP sales between old 3000s and new "MH edition" 3000s, but I guess trackers won't differentiate them. Wonder if SCEJ plans to keep both models or eventually phase out the old one.
 

tzare

Member
Acosta said:
Sony should really try to convince Capcom to keep Monster Hunter exclusive for PSP2 by any means, it's probably their main opportunity to make sure the system has chances in Japan.
Yes, at least in Japan.

It is a weird generation, psp alive and kicking in Japan, and almost dead in US.
 

onken

Member
tzare said:
Yes, at least in Japan.

It is a weird generation, psp alive and kicking in Japan, and almost dead in US.

Not that strange, exactly the same thing happened with the Saturn, was doing fairly well right up until the DC annoucement. Master System and Mega Drive tore it up in Europe while the NES/SNES dominated everywhere else.
 
Something interesting about other things Media Create tracks, user satisfaction:
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/12/0...satisfied-with-metal-gear-solid-peace-walker/
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Media Create does more than calculate weekly sales. They also compile satisfaction surveys for video games into useful data. Their title report card for games looks at three factors: expectations before playing a game (blue square), a satisfaction score after (red circle), and if a user will purchase the next title in a series (green triangle).
Sadly only DQMJ2, MGSPW and Project Diva 2 are labeled...but if I had to guess, the rightmost one should be ACE:R :lol
 

duckroll

Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Sadly only DQMJ2, MGSPW and Project Diva 2 are labeled...but if I had to guess, the rightmost one should be ACE:R :lol

Media Create actually has a fully labeled chart on their site as a sample for this service. It's probably a bit outdated though, since the numbers for DQMJ2 and Peace Walker don't match up entirely, and Diva 2 isn't there.

http://www.m-create.com/shouhin_shoukai/titlekarte_setsumei.htm

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The titles listed in order: Phantasy Star Portable 2, Valkyria 2, End of Eternity, God Eater, Star Ocean 4, Kenka Bancho 4, Ryu ga Gotoku 4, Hokuto Musou, Sekaiju no Meikyuu 3, Nier, Super Street Fighter IV, Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2, Peace Walker, Lost Planet 2.
 

onken

Member
I love how the satisfaction dip in RGG4 has absolutely no affect on purchase intention for the next game.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
onken said:
I love how the satisfaction dip in RGG4 has absolutely no affect on purchase intention for the next game.

And that Nier one is weird, expectations met but purchase intent through the floor.
Actually:

Blue Square: Expectations before playing a game.
Red Circle: A satisfaction score after playing a game.
Green Triangle: User will purchase the next title in a series.

So Nier 2 would have a high purchase intent.
 

onken

Member
Nirolak said:
Actually:

Blue Square: Expectations before playing a game.
Red Circle: A satisfaction score after playing a game.
Green Triangle: User will purchase the next title in a series.

So Nier 2 would have a really high purchase intent in Japan going by this list.

Yeah got it right for RGG but accidentally mixed them up for Nier, already edited it before you posted.
 

duckroll

Member
Yes Chris, PSP Go isn't included, I misread. Sorry.

Regarding the game surveys:

It should be pretty easy to derive what the other titles are using the old table (with labels) and the new table (with DQMJ2, PW, and Miku 2 labeled). Basically, Miku 2 came out on July 29th, and ACE:R came out on August 19th. The table is listed chronologically by release order from left to right. ACE:R is almost certainly the last game on the new list. Also, Media Create has a list of all games surveyed so far: http://www.m-create.com/shouhin_shoukai/topad_titlekarte.htm It's just a matter of matching it up.
 

test_account

XP-39C²
hsukardi said:
So, PSP sales could indeed exceed the DS sales this year.
The difference between the DS and PSP in the latest Media Create numbers is 269,147 units. If the DS sells about the same as it did last week, the DS and PSP would have about the same YTD. So it should be interesting to see what happends in the next 3-4 weeks :)
 

Koren

Member
Is ACE:R such a bad game ?

I was thinking about grabbing this one (the online prices quite high made that I haven't done it yet)
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Chris1964 said:
2009 47 {16/11/09 - 22/11/09} 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) {16/11/09} - 754.473 / 52.927.212
2009 48 {23/11/09 - 29/11/09} 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) {23/11/09} - 1.103.204 / 54.030.416
2009 49 {30/11/09 - 06/12/09} 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) {30/11/09} - 2.723.462 / 56.753.878
2009 50 {07/12/09 - 13/12/09} 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) {07/12/09} - 2.165.545 / 58.919.423
2009 51 {14/12/09 - 20/12/09} 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) {14/12/09} - 3.945.539 / 62.864.962
2009 52 {21/12/09 - 27/12/09} 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) {21/12/09} - 3.267.504 / 66.132.466
2009 53 {28/12/09 - 03/01/10} 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) {28/12/09} - 2.423.932 / 68.556.398

2010 47 {22/11/10 - 28/11/10} 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) {22/11/10} - 1.479.110 / 51.773.408
2010 48 {29/11/10 - 05/12/10}
2010 49 {06/12/10 - 12/12/10}
2010 50 {13/12/10 - 19/12/10}
2010 51 {20/12/10 - 26/12/10}
2010 52 {27/12/10 - 02/01/11}

Next week software sales YTD 2010 will be over 2009 but NSMBW and FFXIII come out at week 49 and 51 so unless 2010 shows amazing holiday sales, 2009 will win.
This battle could be interesting after all. There isn't the big title but the big ammount of new quality titles might keep 2010 close to 2009.
 
duckroll said:
Regarding the game surveys:

It should be pretty easy to derive what the other titles are using the old table (with labels) and the new table (with DQMJ2, PW, and Miku 2 labeled). Basically, Miku 2 came out on July 29th, and ACE:R came out on August 19th. The table is listed chronologically by release order from left to right. ACE:R is almost certainly the last game on the new list. Also, Media Create has a list of all games surveyed so far: http://www.m-create.com/shouhin_shoukai/topad_titlekarte.htm It's just a matter of matching it up.
Nice find, indeed it matches up to Miku 2 but then there's two titles and in the m-create list it has Last Ranker and Tales of Phantasia X...but Last Ranker was released before Miku 2 so I'm not sure it's that one. Also ACE:R fits more than TOPX in that awful reception.

EDIT: Bigger version of the latest one:
http://www.4gamer.net/games/092/G009283/20101207024/
http://www.4gamer.net/games/092/G009283/20101207024/SS/002.jpg
 

markatisu

Member
tzare said:
Yes, at least in Japan.

It is a weird generation, psp alive and kicking in Japan, and almost dead in US.

almost dead? did it sell any decent amount in the last 24 months and I just missed it
 

onken

Member
Koren said:
Is ACE:R such a bad game ?

I was thinking about grabbing this one (the online prices quite high made that I haven't done it yet)

RRP was something like 8000, you can now get it for around 3000, which probably tells you something.
 

Road

Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Nice find, indeed it matches up to Miku 2 but then there's two titles and in the m-create list it has Last Ranker and Tales of Phantasia X...but Last Ranker was released before Miku 2 so I'm not sure it's that one. Also ACE:R fits more than TOPX in that awful reception.

EDIT: Bigger version of the latest one:
http://www.4gamer.net/games/092/G009283/20101207024/
http://www.4gamer.net/games/092/G009283/20101207024/SS/002.jpg
809k for Peace Walker according to Media-Create. Also interesting information about pre-orders.


Chris1964 said:
This battle could be interesting after all. There isn't the big title but the big ammount of new quality titles might keep 2010 close to 2009.
If 2009 hadn't been the odd 53 week year, 2010 would be ahead by now.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
I forgot to update top 5.

Best openings in Japan (Famitsu)

{13/09/10 - 19/09/10} 01. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) {18/09/10} - 2.637.285
{08/02/99 - 14/02/99} 02. [PS1] Final Fantasy VIII (Square) {11/02/99} - 2.504.044
{06/07/09 - 12/07/09} 03. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (Square Enix) {11/07/09} - 2.343.440
{22/11/04 - 28/11/04} 04. [PS2] Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (Square Enix) {27/11/04} - 2.236.881
{29/11/10 - 05/12/10} 05. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (Capcom) {01/12/10} - 2.146.467
 

Koren

Member
onken said:
RRP was something like 8000, you can now get it for around 3000, which probably tells you something.
That tells me that it underperformed quite badly, and retailers try to get rid of stock. But that happens with good and bad games. I wouldn't use such a sign to judge the quality of a game.

I even loved a couple of games that were complete failures sales-wise.

The only things I heard about the game was that there was far too many cutscenes, that the game is quite difficult at times, and that there's a couple of bad parts ("chasing", but no clue about what it means). But beside that, the gameplay was enjoyable...
 

Jomjom

Banned
tzare said:
Yes, at least in Japan.

It is a weird generation, psp alive and kicking in Japan, and almost dead in US.

For a handheld, I think this situation is perfectly sustainable. For the most part, US handheld games are junk. As long as it's doing well in Japan we will still get great games released for the system.
 

ccbfan

Member
jling84 said:
For a handheld, I think this situation is perfectly sustainable. For the most part, US handheld games are junk. As long as it's doing well in Japan we will still get great games released for the system.


Agreed.

I couldn't care less whether the PSP does well in the west.

I care about hardware sales for one reason. How it effects support in terms of software. All the games I want for it is from the east. Plus the West has something against handhelds. NDS is the greatest selling video game device ever and its not like its gains anything in terms of games by selling well in the west.
 

Bebpo

Banned
That chart just shows why Japan is sequel city and barely any original IPs. With every franchise, no matter how bad the latest game was, around half the people are willing to line right back up and buy the next one.

Kind of sad.
 
Bebpo said:
That chart just shows why Japan is sequel city and barely any original IPs. With every franchise, no matter how bad the latest game was, around half the people are willing to line right back up and buy the next one.

Kind of sad.

That isn't just Japan.
 

donny2112

Member
Bebpo said:
That chart just shows why Japan is sequel city and barely any original IPs. With every franchise, no matter how bad the latest game was, around half the people are willing to line right back up and buy the next one.

Kind of sad.

Fits right in with the other problem in the chart: People expect a game to be a poor experience and still bought it anyway. :eek:
 

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
:( at Star Ocean 4.

But at least people are looking forward to SO5!
 

Michan

Member
Disappointed reading some of the Donkey Kong Country Returns predictions. I think it'll do a bit better than people are expecting. It won't be anywhere near as successful as some of Nintendo's shining stars, but it's not going to tumble into oblivion. It'll likely stick around for a little while.

When all is said and done, it'll have done quite well. They have a nice marketing campaign for it (it seems), and they've done a lot of work adapting it to all audiences... though North America and Europe will inevitably be the title's biggest markets - and I'm sure that although Nintendo likely knows that, they won't let Japan go amiss.
 
Predictions:
[NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) - 300k
[NDS] Shiren the Wanderer 5: Fortune Tower and the Dice of Fate (Chunsoft) - 35k
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd - Week 2 (Capcom) - 600k
[WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo) - 150k
[PS3] Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft) - 50k
 
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