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Meta Quest 3 | OT + Review Thread |

Draugoth

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THE GOOD​

  • Better, more comfortable hardware
  • Much-improved displays
  • Doubles Quest 2 GPU performance
  • Sharp new screens and lenses
  • More compact than Quest 2
  • Crisper graphics with 30% more pixels
  • Mixed reality cameras make it easier to see the real world
  • Adjustable for glasses
  • Mixed reality is good enough to use a phone
  • Depth sensor automatically maps your room

THE BAD​

  • Much more expensive than the Quest 2
  • Not enough mixed reality content
  • Passthrough cameras isn’t quite sharp enough
  • Only 128GB of storage to start
  • No battery life improvements
  • No silicone cover included

The Verge - 7.0/10.0
Maybe this is the headset before the headset, the one that helps entice developers to make cool stuff that turn into killer apps for the Quest 4. Heck, maybe none of this matters until the device itself is less “headset” and more “glasses” and until we’ve had a series of societal debates about whether you should make fun of people who wear these things in public. It’s going to take a lot of technical and social change to make mixed reality mainstream, and it’s probably going to take a few years.
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IGN - 9.0/10.0
The Quest 3 continues Meta’s legacy of offering a cost-effective headset that doesn’t require an expensive gaming PC, but can still benefit from one if you have it. That’s a unique feature that sets it apart from almost every other VR headset out there, other than its own predecessors. The Quest 3 goes even further by offering us a ticket to mixed-reality gaming with a full-color passthrough mode that’s sharp enough to read things in the world around you, the lightest and most precisely tracked controllers available, and more. The sheer amount of upgrades are well worth the $200 generational price increase. For everyone else who is willing to make the splurge, the Quest 3 sets the new standard for VR and mixed reality gaming.
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Wired - 8.0/10.0
Dramatically improved object detection and hand tracking. Enhanced visuals with greater FOV. Full color, higher resolution pass-through is a dramatic improvement …
… but pass-through is still noticeably fuzzy. OS and UI remain stubbornly dated (you still can't organize apps!). Much higher price points than Quest 2. Horizon Worlds is a ghost town.
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Engadget - 88/100
If you’ve seen my PlayStation VR 2 review, you’ll know I’m pretty ambivalent about the state of VR at the moment. The headsets are getting better, but the games and industry just feels stagnant. The Meta Quest 3, at the very least, seems like a better option for VR newcomers than the $550 PlayStation VR 2. It’s pricey, but it delivers solid VR without a PlayStation 5. While it’s no Vision Pro, the Quest 3’s stab at mixed reality makes it a headset you’ll likely use long after your VR honeymoon is over.
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NPR - Recommended
It's a promising line-up, but Meta missed an opportunity to come out with a bang at launch with more than one great mixed reality experience. However, the impressive hardware could be enough to justify the $500 for existing enthusiasts and well-heeled holiday shoppers. By the time late November rolls around, there might be just enough to make mixed reality look enticing.
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PocketLink - Recommended
Simply put, if you want the best standalone VR experience available today, the Meta Quest 3 is the headset to get. It brings meaningful upgrades in just about every area: A slimmer and more comfortable design, better optics, better displays, improved audio, a more powerful processor and all-new MR capabilities.
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Eurogamer - Recommended
Overall then, I'm really impressed with the Quest 3 and I'm confident that it will become a full time replacement for my Quest 2 in all aspects. I honestly never enjoyed using native apps on my Quest 2 due to the rather ropey visual quality but going forwards I'm way more interested in giving them a shot. There's a few negatives from my first experiences sure, battery life being one of the major ones, but the positive points really do outweigh the issues I have.
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Evening Standard - 4.0/5.0
The Quest 3 really does feel like a big step forward for Meta: thinner, sleeker, more powerful and capable of fantastic graphics. The only issue, of course, is price point. This is not a cheap bit of kit, but you get what you pay for, and the novelty of mixed reality makes everything feel fresh and fun.
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Digital Trends - 9.0/10.0
I strongly recommend the Meta Quest 3 to anyone, even if you’re considering the Apple Vision Pro. It might take a year or more for Apple’s library of VR titles to reach a satisfying depth. Meanwhile, the Quest 3 can run all Quest 2 games with better-quality graphics without slowing the frame rate. Some developers are already updating games to take full advantage of the Quest 3 hardware.
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R6Rider

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Will be sticking to PSVR2 for awhile, but could see myself picking up one when they are significantly cheaper.

Are there any major changes to the controllers?
 
fart town usa

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I can see myself getting one of these at some point but no time soon. I've really taken to VR and PSVR/PSVR2 suit my needs but Quest is gonna get some baller exclusives for sure. PCVR would be the best but I just don't have a rig capable of the mods I'm most interested in.
 
Minsc

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fart town usa said:
I can see myself getting one of these at some point but no time soon. I've really taken to VR and PSVR/PSVR2 suit my needs but Quest is gonna get some baller exclusives for sure. PCVR would be the best but I just don't have a rig capable of the mods I'm most interested in.
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I was going to say - I feel like I have 3x the number of games to play between Quest and PC VR / Steam VR than I do on the PSVR2 now. Yeah, without the PC VR side of the equation, there's too much overlap between the two, though the whole wireless aspect and better lenses and access to 3D videos and 3D movies definitely carries it a bit.
 
DenchDeckard

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Got mine, this thing is fooking bad ass!

So, happy that I held out for it. Virtual desktop is insane. Headset is nice. The lenses and resolution is mental.

Only complaint is lack of oled so blacks are more grey...overall though. Amazing.

How do I watch 3d porn on it?
 
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Minsc

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DenchDeckard said:
Got mine, this thing is fooking bad ass!

So, happy that I held out for it. Virtual desktop is insane. Headset is nice. The lenses and resolution is mental.

Only complaint is lack of oled so blacks are more grey...overall though. Amazing.

How do I watch 3d porn on it?
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I believe you ask in jest, but from what I hear using Bigscreen and joining random rooms does the job, just might not be the type you're looking for, be careful!

Jealous you got yours already, I don't have a 4000-series card yet, how does the non AV1 streaming compare to AV1? Is the AV1 any better? I expected the blacks to be less good than the PSVR2, that seemed a given, but nice to hear otherwise it leaves a solid first impression!
 
DenchDeckard

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Minsc said:
I believe you ask in jest, but from what I hear using Bigscreen and joining random rooms does the job, just might not be the type you're looking for, be careful!

Jealous you got yours already, I don't have a 4000-series card yet, how does the non AV1 streaming compare to AV1? Is the AV1 any better? I expected the blacks to be less good than the PSVR2, that seemed a given, but nice to hear otherwise it leaves a solid first impression!
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I'm coming from a rift s and psvr 1.

The blacks are deffo more gray than black but man, the lenses, the clarity, the sweetspot is rhe enrire headset pretty much. Text is super sharp and easy to read.

Need to get my head strap, just waiting for the bobovr m3 Pro.

Not tried other encoders tbh. Just set it to vc1 none 10bit and it looks great. I'll try change it later. What should I change it to, to test?
 
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Minsc

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DenchDeckard said:
I'm coming from a rift s and psvr 1.

The blacks are deffo more gray than black but man, the lenses, the clarity, the sweetspot is rhe enrire headset pretty much. Text is super sharp and wady to read.

Need to get my head strap, just waiting for the bobovr m3 Pro.

Not tried other encoders tbh. Just set it to vc1 none 10bit and it looks great. I'll try change it later. What should I change it to, to test?
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AV1 is locked to 4000-series GPUs, so just use the Quest 3 "best" option for 10-bit hevc or whatever it lets you. Should be around 200 Mbit/s or so from what I've read. I'm coming from a PSVR2 and I feel the two devices will each serve their own purposes, beyond just exclusives, but I may end up liking the larger sweet spot so much more that it'll tip the scales for all but the most exclusive content, we'll see! I pick up my headset today, excited to give it a shot later.
 
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cyberheater

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As I said in the other thread. Tried the MR game at lunchtime. Much better than I thought MR would be. It's stunning.
 
keraj37

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Technicly I dont see a reason to buy it having PSVR2, to little upgrade in screens, fov and no OLED. But maybe later for PC VR, why not.
 
NuncaBob

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Are any of these reviews touching on non-gaming aspects? Yes, I know what forum I'm on but I'm curious about doing coding work in a mixed reality setup. I'd like to read/watch a review that focuses on that aspect of the Quest 3.
 
rofif

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CobraAB said:
Sounds like VR is just not for you.
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Buggy Loop said:
Even the bottom of the barrel VR one person in his garage concept demo is more interesting than Forspoken rofif rofif
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Lol what are you guys talking about.
I was the biggest vr apostle. I had dk1 in 2013, dk2, cv1, quest, 3 rift S headsets, psvr2.
I am always the biggest vr sucker and early adopter.

And this experience gives me the right to critique atrocious vr games. No. 99% of vr trash is not better than Forspoken. Forspoken is a fulyl featured real video game believe it or not (you would know if you played it)
In fact, vr games are so simplistic because they must allow for real life movement. That's why you will never have crazy gameplay like forspoken in vr.
yes the tech is amazing but games are mostly not. Shooting is most of the gameplay in vr and it becomes boring quickly

I finished Alyx 3 times and it became apparent very quickly how simple the game is gameplay wise compared to half life 2.
You fight 2-3 enemies at a time who stand in place. They do everything to not overwhelm the player with real action like in real game.
VR games are great fun and novelty when you are a hyped amateur.
But once you play game nb 71 with the same over tutorialization with annoying voice over, you really don't care anymore.

I am sorry if you are hyped for vr and I am not but I have experience to back up my skepticism.
PSVR2 got some good vr games like re8 or gt7 but I really disliked the optics and comfort on that one.
I finished Horizon vr too and it was everything I hate about vr games. It's so simple and so boring.
 
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hollams

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Mine is ready for pickup at BB when it opens at 10am. My elite headstrap will be delivered today as well which is a nice surprise since the site said it would be Wednesday. I could only use the Quest 2 for about 45 minutes before my face would start getting irritated so I hope the new design will help with that. I just bought a new 6e router so I'll be able to test that out as well with my 4090.
 
Romulus

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rofif said:
Lol what are you guys talking about.
I was the biggest vr apostle. I had dk1 in 2013, dk2, cv1, quest, 3 rift S headsets, psvr2.
I am always the biggest vr sucker and early adopter.

And this experience gives me the right to critique atrocious vr games. No. 99% of vr trash is not better than Forspoken. Forspoken is a fulyl featured real video game believe it or not (you would know if you played it)
In fact, vr games are so simplistic because they must allow for real life movement. That's why you will never have crazy gameplay like forspoken in vr.
yes the tech is amazing but games are mostly not. Shooting is most of the gameplay in vr and it becomes boring quickly

I finished Alyx 3 times and it became apparent very quickly how simple the game is gameplay wise compared to half life 2.
You fight 2-3 enemies at a time who stand in place. They do everything to not overwhelm the player with real action like in real game.
VR games are great fun and novelty when you are a hyped amateur.
But once you play game nb 71 with the same over tutorialization with annoying voice over, you really don't care anymore.

I am sorry if you are hyped for vr and I am not but I have experience to back up my skepticism.
PSVR2 got some good vr games like re8 or gt7 but I really disliked the optics and comfort on that one.
I finished Horizon vr too and it was everything I hate about vr games. It's so simple and so boring.
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People like different stuff. Forspoken was ass to me. I had more fun playing 20 year old Jedi Outcast with motion controls in VR.

Mods hook me. Re2 remake, cyberpunk are just next level in VR. Currently getting Armored Core 6 to work.
 
DenchDeckard

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Minsc said:
AV1 is locked to 4000-series GPUs, so just use the Quest 3 "best" option for 10-bit hevc or whatever it lets you. Should be around 200 Mbit/s or so from what I've read. I'm coming from a PSVR2 and I feel the two devices will each serve their own purposes, beyond just exclusives, but I may end up liking the larger sweet spot so much more that it'll tip the scales for all but the most exclusive content, we'll see! I pick up my headset today, excited to give it a shot later.
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Which one would you like me to try out of those. I do have a 4090 though so that might skew things a bit?


I'll try HEVC 10BIT
 
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Minsc

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Yes, HEVC 10Bit will likely be the next best option after AV1 10-bit (possible HEVC 10-bit may be better than AV1 vanilla).
 
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Some users on Reddit are reporting mura-like/smearing patterns in white areas:






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Romulus

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I mean even psvr2s mura was pretty bad and I overlooked it. These guys are saying it's very minimal and none of the tech reviews really mentioned it all. Inside the headset, it'll be a nothingburger unless your probing for it under specific conditions.
 
NuncaBob

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VR fidelity is going to go the way (or already is) of the argument about audio bitrate in digital audio compression or digital camera sensor capabilities. Arguing about differences that 97% of people can't detect and which are barely discernible by specialized instrumentation.
 
Fbh

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Sounds pretty solid.
I'm not really looking into getting a VR headset right now, but if I did this one is probably the one to get.

Seems like a good upgrade compared to the quest 2, and the better media playback + standalone nature of it + the option to use with PC give it a versatility I'm just not seeing with stuff like the PSVR2
 
Magic Carpet

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Local Gamestop website says they have 2 in stock. I think th 512 version. Tempting to run over there at lunch and grab one.
 
Minsc

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NuncaBob said:
VR fidelity is going to go the way (or already is) of the argument about audio bitrate in digital audio compression or digital camera sensor capabilities. Arguing about differences that 97% of people can't detect and which are barely discernible by specialized instrumentation.
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Yeah, if you're comparing about lossless to aac or mp3 at transparent bitrates, that's entirely the point of the presets - people can't ABX the audio. So there's no difference except in your head. Meanwhile if you're comparing say Netflix DD+ Atmos to an entirely different format like bluray TrueHD Atmos, then yes, the difference is immediately obvious. A vastly superior format is still superior.

More on target, the mura on the PSVR2 is noticeable and in some cases downright horrible, but overall light or fades away to background noise after a few moments.

Still I think blinding white backgrounds are a lot less common than dark rooms in VR - for obvious reasons.
 
Minsc

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FunkMiller said:
I've learned my lesson with psvr2: no buying any more VR units until I see some actual fucking games worth getting them for.
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Well with this you have PC mods unlike the PSVR2, so you can play things like Elden Ring, FFVII, and others, and supposedly every single Unreal engine game made will be opened for VR as well, so that could keep you quite busy.

Unless you mean only games like Alyx, in which case, you might as well forget VR exists. I personally love hybrid games, though I'm not sure I'd consider Village and RE4 VR on the PSVR2 hybrid because they feel to me like they were made for VR minus some of the physics BS VR games embrace. But just something like running around in Cyberpunk or FFVII in VR sounds fun as hell too. Plus Dungeons of Eternity looks great and has been getting great reviews for this device, and neat stuff like 7th Guest is right around the corner, and the ever amazing Walkabout MiniGolf continues to get visually amazing courses released.

Plus all the mixed-reality stuff looks pretty fun to me.

And I still insist it's damn hard to argue there's no games for Quest/PC VR after watching this video which goes through 100s of games quickly, sorted by their rating.
 
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Doomtrain

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Super weird question for anyone who got one of these and upgraded from a Quest 2: can you turn the brightness down any lower on this one? Quest 2 always felt like it was frying my eyeballs.
 
ChuckeRearmed

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Is MR the same as in their glasses?

FunkMiller said:
I've learned my lesson with psvr2: no buying any more VR units until I see some actual fucking games worth getting them for.
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But this one supports PC and streaming from PC too right? So it will have more support by definition.
 
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Minsc

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ChuckeRearmed said:
Is MR the same as in their glasses?


But this one supports PC and streaming from PC too right? So it will have more support by definition.
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Someone could easily argue that the entirety of the VR library, PSVR, PSVR2, and PC VR / Steam VR amounts to just a couple games. Alyx, RE7, Village, GT7, etc. All the rest of the crap on VR is tech demos and proof of concepts. It's pretty disingenuous but some people want games "just like Alyx" or "just like GT7" and there's really not any on the respective systems, without making concessions. There's hundreds of great games, like Beat Saber etc, but someone into AAA JRPGS or TPS etc isn't going to looking to spend hundreds of hours in Beat Saber.
 
Romulus

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So the Team Beef ports of games like Doom 3, and Jedi Outcast get the automatic resolution bump of 30% and also run at higher framerates. Apparently, there might be room to add improved shadows too.

BC is awesome. The way it's set up, all my retro games/mods will be working in weeks but in much higher resolution.
 
Fredrik

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Minsc said:
Someone could easily argue that the entirety of the VR library, PSVR, PSVR2, and PC VR / Steam VR amounts to just a couple games. Alyx, RE7, Village, GT7, etc. All the rest of the crap on VR is tech demos and proof of concepts. It's pretty disingenuous but some people want games "just like Alyx" or "just like GT7" and there's really not any on the respective systems, without making concessions. There's hundreds of great games, like Beat Saber etc, but someone into AAA JRPGS or TPS etc isn't going to looking to spend hundreds of hours in Beat Saber.
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Yeah that’s me. I love VR but I’m over VR in it’s current state. AAA devs haven’t jumped aboard and if they do it now with a real AAA team and big budget we’ll play their games on Quest 5.
 
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