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[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Looks like Meta is ramping down support for Quest 1 headsets and removing some multi-player/users features in March of 2023.

Meta Quest 1 Support Update

Security Patches and bug fixes end in 2024 (this will prevent new apps from running on the device)
No new feature support or development (I think this is effective now)
Removing the ability to join or create parties (I think this is in March but the post is unclear here)
Removing Horizon access in March.

**lock if a dupe (not great at using Neogaf's search tools)**

 

[ReBurn]

Didn't even live 4 years

 

[Crayon]

I didn't realize they could shut the whole thing down like that. You should still be able to use it as a headset for your pc and many standalone sp games, right?

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

You should still be able to use it as a headset for your pc and many standalone sp games, right?

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Each time I read the new Facebook name, it sounds like a evil corporation straight from a movie.

 

[AJUMP23]

Palmer Lucky’s legacy.

 

[sainraja]

Hmm, that is a bit stupid?
I hope this doesn't make the thing unusable (completely).

 

[OGM_Madness]

I got one for Christmas… last-last Christmas so 2021

Not sure if I have the 1? Can’t tell. Only used once that week to kill the fever about VR and never took it seriously although the tech was neat. It is still in a box. I haven’t updated for the Meta update (last time it was just Oculus).

Either way, sounds like this thing might be best to just mod/hack and use with other apps. Kinda suck that the few games I got might not be playable after a couple months.

 

[jakinov]

The only real issue here is that some of the features that are being disabled should be left enabled longer so they work until they break. Not wanting to continue to give software updates and deal with tech support/troubleshooting for old hardware is normal.

Ending support after 3-4 years isn't that big of a deal. I think people are used to consoles being supported for so long that they forget that a lot of tech have short support windows of 2-4 years.

End-of-life product - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I didn't realize they could shut the whole thing down like that. You should still be able to use it as a headset for your pc and many standalone sp games, right?

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

The wording on the notice is a bit ambiguous, they mention that your apps (assuming they mean the current apps that run on Quest 1) will continue to function, but multi-user party support will end in March.

Developers could update their current titles to target Quest 2 hardware only, which would speed up the end of life for the Quest 1, however there wouldn’t much incentive to do this.

The end of security patch updates (2024) will effectively end the hardware. Without those updates the headset cannot access/use traditional app stores as new/existing titles need to be updated to support the latest SDK (apple and google do this all the time).

 

[Bridges]

Their complete lack of support for legacy hardware is insane. Jumping from a Rift to a Quest 2 it is extremely disheartening that no purchases transfer over, and now stuff like this. The hardware itself is awesome, but I don't understand how anyone can trust these guys when they're so eager to abandon barely aged products like this (completely disregarding how untrustworthy of a company they are from the Facebook side of things).

 

[THE DUCK]

This is a really, really dumb move. I know it costs money to keep this stuff updated and running, but as a consumer it builds distrust with the brand overall. I'm a former quest 1 and current quest 2 owner, definitely makes me hesitate on Quest 3.
It's not like they are some startup company desperate for cash.

 

[consoul]

Quest completed.

 

[jaysius]

More e-waste in the world of VR trash bins.

VR is one of the most e-waste unfriendly businesses.

I'm shocked the tree huggers haven't attacked it yet.

 

[jaysius]

Their complete lack of support for legacy hardware is insane. Jumping from a Rift to a Quest 2 it is extremely disheartening that no purchases transfer over, and now stuff like this. The hardware itself is awesome, but I don't understand how anyone can trust these guys when they're so eager to abandon barely aged products like this (completely disregarding how untrustworthy of a company they are from the Facebook side of things).

Welcome to closed markets with known shitty developers.

 

[jakinov]

Their complete lack of support for legacy hardware is insane. Jumping from a Rift to a Quest 2 it is extremely disheartening that no purchases transfer over, and now stuff like this. The hardware itself is awesome, but I don't understand how anyone can trust these guys when they're so eager to abandon barely aged products like this (completely disregarding how untrustworthy of a company they are from the Facebook side of things).

Isn't Rift to a Quest the equivalent of you buying a game on PC and then buying it on Xbox. Basically it's up to the developer to allow cross-platform entitlements:

Oculus Cross-Buy Opens Up New Horizons in Gaming | Meta Quest Blog

Oculus Quest and Quest 2 took gaming to new heights with their standalone form factor, which also lets you tether to a PC for advanced VR gaming experiences. With cross-buy options on the Oculus Store, you can enjoy both the PC-supported and standalone versions of a game without having to pay...

www.oculus.com

as I mentioned in my other post, it's normal for tech to have short support life. Game consoles (due to generations concept) and apple devices are the only exception which have lives of as high as 7+ years.

 

[nightmare-slain]

can they sunset themselves next?

i will never call them Meta. they are Facebook. slapping a new name on your company doesnt change anything. they are still the evil disgusting company that they always have been.

fuck Facebook, Quest, Instagram, and Whatsapp. hopefully this pisses people off becaus they really need to stop using that shit. Facebook needs to die.

 

[cyberheater]

It’s a shame. I’ve got both Q1&2 and Q1 is my main pc driver. Apart from resolution it’s superior in all another aspects.

 

[poppabk]

This is why I buy 90% of my VR games on steam. Although I don't even know what moat of the stuff they are shutting down actually ia.

 

[rofif]

sunsetting?!
What kind of wording is that.

 

[Drizzlehell]

Facebook doing everything in its power to make VR fail.

 

[mxbison]

Without adding Air Link? Bastards....

Not really using mine much anymore though. Will probably go for a PSVR2 after the first price drop.

 

[mxbison]

More e-waste in the world of VR trash bins.

VR is one of the most e-waste unfriendly businesses.

I'm shocked the tree huggers haven't attacked it yet.

Half the planet swaps their phone every 1-2 years for a new one that does exactly the same things with one extra camera lens.

 

[Ronin_7]

Imagine buying Meta 2 today lmao should get sunset soon as well.

 

[jaysius]

Half the planet swaps their phone every 1-2 years for a new one that does exactly the same things with one extra camera lens.

And all the plastic from the headset, and all the plastic from the controller, oh wait your false equivalency doesn't hold up, looks like it wasn't good logic.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

sunsetting?!
What kind of wording is that.

Maybe it is a US thing....but I have heard this term for years. Probably a political way of saying "Hey...that $400 bucks you spent has not only depreciated 99% over the last 4 years it's fucking dead Jim."

 

[mxbison]

And all the plastic from the headset, and all the plastic from the controller, oh wait your false equivalency doesn't hold up, looks like it wasn't good logic.

It's a pretty normal consumer electronics life cycle. Except that the amount of devices is a drop in the ocean compared to phones.

The controller plastic? Really? Every average household has more plastic waste than that in like a week....

 

[01011001]

well the thing is, you can jailbreak the Quest, and if shit hits the fan real hard then do what everyone should do

 

[cyberheater]

Probably would delete that last post