TheGodfather07
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And I will continue to ignore their games since they only produce crap since the PS3 launched
Right. Uncharted and last of us are major flops. Reviewed and sold horribly too!
And I will continue to ignore their games since they only produce crap since the PS3 launched
She was not a lead character
Damn Mafia 3 and Deathloop just dont exist to u huhBecause there hasnt been a real AAA game with a black lead since like... GTA San Andreas? It was news with Ghosts of Tsushima too except Asian lead. Its good to see
If you care, Neil Druckmann said Nadine was not written with any race. Just a woman from South Africa.
Then they cast Laura Bailey to play her.
Later, a character concept artist showed their drawing of Nadine as black.
They liked the look and went for it, despite already casting Bailey.
Hence the white chick playing the black chick.
He’s great in Luther. It depends on the material.Not a fan of Idris Elba, don´t find him to be a good lead actor, he is more a second role?actor (like in Thor, Beasts of No Nation) vs. where he plays the lead actor (shitty paris cop-movie, that one against the rock and that stupid bike, him as sniper? in suicide squad reboot ...).
Please, not another marvel IP! Why not give the voice of Kratos a chance? Voice + actor (face, persona) = done!
Christopher Judge | Actor, Writer, Producer
Known for: Stargate SG-1, God of War, God of War: Ragnarökwww.imdb.com
There should be a drowsy or sleepy reactions for comments like these.completely agreed
it wouldnt surprise me if ND started design discussions with “we already know that X gender of Y race will be the lead, how do we make a story around that?”
when it should be natural, the story you want to tell may lend itself to a certain race or lead
It is pandering. You look at the game reveals lately and 50% of them seem to be black females. What percentage of the population is that? Why are we having to force that demographic so much into games rather than letting it be more natural? It’s just a way to virtue signal and it’s pretty embarrassing how forced it all is
The only person who cares about the color of a persons skin is a racist
Black is a skin colour, not a race.India... isn't in Africa
^^*this. But the trend nowadays is to ensure everyone is represented. I’m tempted to make a bad joke but I’ll pass. I like NDs work so I’m in regardlessWhy does race have to be mentioned?
Why whats going to happen?It's good to see but doesn't need to be pointed out.
Nevermind.Because Naughty dog is a woke trash company.
Why does race have to be mentioned?
It's good to see but doesn't need to be pointed out.
? As an artist I start many stories this way. I design a character I like and be like "it would be cool if this happened to them or this" but that isn't pandering sir. A character artist can design a character they like and build around that design and vice versa, none of that means pandering to this or that as who the fuck can make a game then?it wouldnt surprise me if ND started design discussions with “we already know that X gender of Y race will be the lead, how do we make a story around that?”
nah bud.It is pandering. You look at the game reveals lately and 50% of them seem to be black females
Soy latte*I got no doubts Druckman saw the new Saint's Row characters and shouted, hold myfuckin beer
No tears, just whole lot of missed sales.More neckbeard tears please
+ Forspoken, Crackdown and Miles MoralesDamn Mafia 3 and Deathloop just dont exist to u huh
.+ Forspoken, Crackdown and Miles Morales
The main character in COD Vanguard is black too.
Why doesn't it bother you?So never mind why it needs to be mentioned I would more so question why does it bother you that they're describing something like that in the game in the first place how the fuck are they supposed to Market this game otherwise?
I would pay $1000 for a PS5 if this ever happenedHire Idris Elba and make it an action game
Not sure why this even matters, what is the game about? What colour skin pigment the protagonist has means Jack shit.
I guess this matters for those that want to tick a box and let everyone know they ticked the box.
Why doesn't it bother you?
Eh - in my opinion, the (many) issues with Tenet had little to do with the acting chops of its lead, and more to do with the directing. Washington can deliver when paired with a capable director like Spike Lee. Tenet is probably Nolan's worst film, which as I said, isn't the fault of Nolan's lead.Eh. Admirable as it maybe, Nolan did this and completely miscast Danzel Washington’s son John David Washington. He would’ve been great as Neil. He’s good but not ready to be the male lead. The movie likely suffered as a result. Robert Pattinson should’ve been the male lead.
I don’t have any proof but I think Abby also started as a ‘wouldn’t it be cool to have a butch female lead’ character. Her character suffered as a result IMO. She looked too cartoony and weird to be relatable.
Let’s hope they have a good actor like Isaac’s actor Jeffry Wright lined up to play the lead. He needs to have screen presence and gravitas first and foremost.
Classic example of someone reading more into something than what is actually there.I mean listen to what you're saying, you're questioning why it matters and then you're also asking what's the game about
the race of the person might actually have something significant to do with the game what if it's a period piece in the Civil War and the person is some slave Freedom Fighter or something like that?
So I'm not trying to say that skin pigment does not mean Jack shit, what I am trying to say is it truly depends on the contexts and the specifics of the actual game itself. I see it no differently than I would religion politics or nationality etc
I'm not sure why religion even matters, what's the game about? The game is about the Christian Crusades
I'm not sure why what nation there from really matters, what's the game about? The game is set in 1916 about Irish Freedom Fighters....
I'm not sure what their political affiliation matters what's the game about?
The game is like a house of cards video game where a man gets revenge on a senator for betraying him and turning the party against him
Do you not see how that can contradict itself if the game indeed is about the very thing you're saying does not matter? -_-
Context is key.
? You asked why its mentioned... I'd argue you'd need to provide some logical reason on why it bothers you that its mentioned bud....
nah bud.
Not sure where you heard that wild ass fake figure from. This the same shit we heard about 99% of all games being remasters by those that don't actually fucking count, add up, provide factual objective evidence etc.
Give us a number and we can talk sir, but I've seen nothing like this fucking 50% black female leads lol
ok bud, thats some wild hyperbole you got there
Classic example of someone reading more into something than what is actually there.
We know nothing about this game so, the game, the skin colour, the developer all mean Jack shit, until we are shown more.
The fact you spent so much time on your comment is very revealing.
Yes, the prophet in Crysis 3 and also Prototype 2 from Activision. There's lots but people just repeat each other without thinking. Same for female characters.isn't the main character from Crisis also black? I could have sworn I read somewhere that he was.
Because there hasnt been a real AAA game with a black lead since like... GTA San Andreas? It was news with Ghosts of Tsushima too except Asian lead. Its good to see
I get that james, but how can anyone take your post seriously if it exaggerates many things and then wants people to believe other conspiracy's? If you have a logical point and a figure that supports it, don't exaggerate only to then reveal that when one starts to ask for real figures or somethingI was clearly exaggerating.
double woke points they get each time an underrepresented gender or race is showcased in a game trailer.
Yet you have little evidence of this, this is just as bad as any of the weird claims made by SJW.... ie shirt tucked in means this, white guy on box was to meet quota, proof "trust me bruh"Should the goal be to overreport certain racers or genders to meet a marketing quota? That's pandering to me.
I would think those races or genders would be more offended when that sort of revisionist history happens.
it seems like many games have a "tick the box"
I have no problem if the designers sat down and said this is the game story we want to tell and it just so happens to be a certain race or gender and you can tell it really shines through as a product
I get that james, but how can anyone take your post seriously if it exaggerates many things and then wants people to believe other conspiracy's? If you have a logical point and a figure that supports it, don't exaggerate only to then reveal that when one starts to ask for real figures or something
Yet you have little evidence of this, this is just as bad as any of the weird claims made by SJW.... ie shirt tucked in means this, white guy on box was to meet quota, proof "trust me bruh"
They are also fake video games with fictional stories, they are not fucking history lessons or documentaries or anything like that. Its from a artisitc place where they are given enough freedom that its understood if they make changes as its not a school board thing, its no a government policy, its nothing that would magically effect the entire country to really be putting it on the level of "offended"
Not all of us get offended over that shit man lol
Don't know what to tell you James, might as well join the whole SJW thing as that was literally their arguement.
"it seems" (proceeds to just make anything up)
If you feel it "seems" that way, good luck. I don't see anything logical with anything this tbh. I didn't with SJW's, I don't see it with your point either bud. I might disagree with them, but you offer the same reasons to disagree with you too.
You live on this "it seems' and or "tick the box" and get triggered over fictional characters and make massive assumptions with little information other then hearing or seeing a race. It was my major issue with SJWs in the first place. So I'm going to tell you what I told them....I'm sure this really goes on in the industry, I'm sure to some extent people like that really, really exist.... you can't prove that with a shirt tucked in and or white male and in your situation clearly you can't prove that simply cause a character was black anymore then they can prove it was some right wing agenda cause character white.
With such logic, nothing is fucking allowed in games man. Its tiring as fuck.
Not all stories can be done that way though...if its the game is about the Civil War, race, gender, religion, nation etc matters, Many topics have to do with such things where it can't really be "just so happens", it would fucking matter greatly if the actual main story literally is about a thing that effects a nation, race, gender, religion etc.
Many times, those elements can be a massive part of the story and can't just be a "just so happens". So the book The Yellow Wallpaper can't just have a character that um "just so happens" to be this or that, it litearlly IS about a concept that factors the persons gender.....
If you have no problem if they make a story that doesn't factor that, give them the respect when they make a story that does. I respect what they do regardless if it factors, or not. Its their story to tell and how much it matters or not is up to them. It can be nothing at all, it can be a story about the underground railroad with zombies lol
Let them decide that.
If I was a mod I would have banned people like you. As a person of color, I find this whole attitude disgusting and discriminatory. This is an attempt to swoon people in the name of diversity but is at the end of the day cheap monetization of wider bigger social movements. And only a racist mind can approve and appreciate such notions in my opinion. Make a human protagonist alive with a human emotions like love, care, jealousy, greed and stop mentioning gender, race, etc. If you really care about racial discrimination don't give money give your time and energy and invest not donate in ventures like education and community building of all segments of hard-working minority groups. And most of all stop talking because we have got way too many talkers on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc. who at the end of the day want to sell their own goods.I dont want to see a single fucking complaint about this, if the word "woke" is even uttered once, you will be banned.
*how id be as a mod*
Cant wait for ND's new game, Day 0 for whatever they make.
Deathloop released this very year. A game set in old japan with black protagonist will be the highest level of cultural misappropriation which will be antithetical to the very notion of eliminating racism. Again a result of talking non-racists people doing little homework on their approach because if they did they will realize they are following on the footsteps of their racist forefathers.Because there hasnt been a real AAA game with a black lead since like... GTA San Andreas? It was news with Ghosts of Tsushima too except Asian lead. Its good to see
Guaranteed the character (male or female) will be the stereotypical Black person tough guy persona complete with a bit of ghetto hood talk and background.Can’t wait to see the exaggerated swagger
I'll see you guys in the morning to catch up on the 20 pages.Black lead? Naughty Dog? Gaf thread?
My bet: He/she is not gonna be black black, it's going to be soft black, you know, like Miles Morales. Black enough to say they did something woke, diverse and innovative but not black for the black people to have a real hero. Probably a black cisgender teen with a Japanese father and a mom from Dominican republic but was born in NY.... but moved to London. Naughty Dog is making the game of the century.
Which PS5->PC port has been your favorite?I hope this comes to PC sooner than later. I like the PS5->PC ports we've gotten so far.
I posted the receipts.
but this specific demographic is roughly 6% of the US population and they are marketed very prominently.
You went from "it seems" to "it is".I'm calling it for what it is - pandering
we all know ND is doing it to check boxes. thats the problenI dont want to see a single fucking complaint about this, if the word "woke" is even uttered once, you will be banned.
*how id be as a mod*
Cant wait for ND's new game, Day 0 for whatever they make.