Secret Bloodborne cabal also voted for The Witcher 3 to hide their evil scheme.
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NeoGAF Games of the Year 2015 Awards
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Ultimadrago
Member
The call for my prediction post was a bit later than I expected, but I've got you covered, Evil!
These later pages have reflected the phenomenon aptly.
Omotesando
Member
And I think it's very suspect that many people came in and voted for only 1 game, which was The Witcher 3. This is like ballot stuffing, where they only vote for one game so they can be sure that no other game gets points which could potentially raise their placement
In the future if someone just lists 1 game it should only be worth 1 point IMO
This is a pretty sad excuse. Go look at which titles had 1 vote ballots in their name. The distribution is hardly one sided.
Meccanical
Member
To be honest I would kill for a Souls like game that wasn't in a medieval setting.
To be honest I would like a From Soft game taking place in a modern setting, taking place in a city that is being taken over by a cosmic horror or some shit.
It would be rad.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I mean i expect salt on threads on other sites goty lists. But you'd think when we do our own here people would be able to accept the results without the bs lol, i mean your fellow members all voted.And to think people complain about the Souls fanbase
God I really loved the main story in TW3. Yes the villains were a little lack luster but they were still menacing as fuck. Plus how often do you fight elves that are these giant muscle bound jacked looking monsters instead of your generic Legolas clones?
Also I thought the characters on Geralt's side were perfectly done. All the interactions with Ciri in the second half of the game were so rewarding.
RespectThySole
Member
Yes, the open world was incredible and it brought me back to the sense of adventure I felt in TW1, but on a much grander scale.
Idk I just don't see what you do with the main story. I totally get why you don't like Eredin, but I don't think a ton of exposition was needed there. The build-ups to the fights with Imlerith and Eredin satiated me in a minimalistic way that was a refreshing change of pace for a game mostly built around maximalism. It helped that they were pretty intimidating, especially Imlerith. Even if you didn't like that particular aspect, there were a ton of great moments in the main story. If anything you should be disappointed by the
Reasons of State quest.
This is interesting.. I guess I was wrong.
I still think if you only vote for 1 it should get 1 point though.. but not sure if that would even matter?
Meccanical
Member
To be honest in the case of TW3 and villains, I don't think they were really that important.
I guess there function wasn't who they were but how Geralt and the hero characters reacted to them.
That said I agree they aren't the most memorable villains, but Hearts of Stone really made up for that in that front.
I guess there function wasn't who they were but how Geralt and the hero characters reacted to them.
That said I agree they aren't the most memorable villains, but Hearts of Stone really made up for that in that front.
I just scrolled through 11 pages of the voting to check and it is absurd how intense the BB v TW3 arguing is getting when they both show up as 1 & 2 or 2 & 1 on so many lists (and both show up in various places on even more.)
They are clearly both well loved, there's no conspiracies happening here.
They are clearly both well loved, there's no conspiracies happening here.
Krusenstern
Banned
That would be rather unfair. There can be a couple of reasons why someone would or could vote for one game only.
I was one of the few who voted for Bloodborne only, because I haven't played enough of any other game released in 2015 to give it a legit vote (in my opinion). I barely reached Velen in Witcher 3 and only did like 11 missions in MGS5.
The only other new release I finished this year was The Order 1886 but didn't want to list it as my number 2 because even from the little time I had with Witcher 3 and MGS5 it was more fun than the entirety of Order 1886.
opticalmace
Member
Why? I primarily played older games in 2015. I had to scrounge to even get 5 or 6 games in my list.
And several of those occurred in December. Near the end of the year I had only played maybe 3 games from 2015... I don't see why you should punish those who don't play many modern games.
Let people vote for one game. This was already brought up in the voting thread but there are many reasons why one would not vote for many or even just one game.
In a year where the results are close, like this year. We're talking about a ~90-person conspiracy to swing a vote. In more usual years that number gets much higher.
This is not the US election equivalent where permed or temp banned accounts can vote without their consent. ;-)
In a year where the results are close, like this year. We're talking about a ~90-person conspiracy to swing a vote. In more usual years that number gets much higher.
This is not the US election equivalent where permed or temp banned accounts can vote without their consent. ;-)
DriftingSpirit
Member
Oh wow, now we are at ballot stuffing? Keep going!
Omotesando
Member
No worries, we all do conjure tales from the arse once and awhile.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Next up, "don't you guys think its fishy so many juniors voted for Bloodborne."
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
It wouldn't have mattered. You have no argument
I tried to forget Reasons of State. Sigismund Dijkstra was like, my favorite character up until that point.
I disagree. I think the totality of the game should be above all else. IMO, Witcher 3 was simply a better game than Bloodborne, though I did really enjoy Bloodborne.
iz.podpolja
Neo Member
Yeah, it's not like this is an actual problem, however it is a testament to hmm... how strongly people feel about their games.
With this kind of rivalry as we see this year with TW3 & BB, portions of those games' communities behave a bit like football fans (with even a smaller fraction becoming ... ultra-hools), which is kind of disheartening.
Aren't we taking this BB vs TW3 argument a little too seriously?
In any case, if you really played only one game in a year, i don't think you should vote, because you literally have no other game to compare it with, meaning you can't really say that game deserves GOTY or not. But then again, who cares? It's not like this list aims to be professional or whatever, it's just the result of Gaf's opinions regarding 2015.
In any case, if you really played only one game in a year, i don't think you should vote, because you literally have no other game to compare it with, meaning you can't really say that game deserves GOTY or not. But then again, who cares? It's not like this list aims to be professional or whatever, it's just the result of Gaf's opinions regarding 2015.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Uncharted 4 vs Zelda will be glorious going by the thread
Until persona 5 swoops in ftw #believe
Meccanical
Member
Let us step back and remind ourselves that this thread and the opinions within it don't actually matter in the long run, besides making people buy the games listed of course.
last guardian not coming out confirmed?
Omotesando
Member
So now 1 game voters have only played 1 game?
I have played tons of games this year and only incorporated 3 games in my voting. should have been 2 actually, 3rd vote got the same points as the 2nd vote, but I think one game is vastly superior to the other.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
You mean Uncharted 4 vs Persona 5
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Nah i was going for more of a head to head type deal. Top 5 going by gaf darlings from what i learned would definitely be something like..
Uncharted 4
Zelda
The last guardian
Dark souls 3
Persona 5
Bookmark it one of these wins
How many games would you require person to have played? IMO if you know your gaming tastes by having played multiple games in the past you should know if the game is something you would consider GOTY or no. Yes you might like some game more but then you would have to play every single release for you to know if there is something better than what you currently think is your GOTY and I would assume none of here has the time to play every release of the year within that year.
Haunted
Member
Wait, how would someone who only played one game that year be able to tell if it's the best game of the year without a frame of reference?
edit: I'm fine with people voting for however many games they deem worthy.
Ultimadrago
Member
Because they could only afford one game.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Simple they liked the game very much so they voted for it.
RespectThySole
Member
Assuming Mass Effect is delayed, I predict:
1. Uncharted 4
2. Dark Souls 3
3. Persona 5
4. Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
5. The Last Guardian
6. Zelda
Haunted
Member
We'll just have to trust every user's own judgement, I suppose.
Obviously your question can only be answered with some kind of heuristic of what feels right. Reductions to only one game or all games ever rightly feel absurd. Personally I'd say at least a triangulation of what are considered some of the bigger games, but from five or more games released that year, the ballot starts to become credible.
generic_username
I switched to an alt account to ditch my embarrassing tag so I could be an embarrassing Naughty Dog fanboy in peace. Ask me anything!
You are taking the easy route. Stick your neck out and predict which one among these will win
Ultimadrago
Member
I was joking, myself.
As I said in the voting thread, there's no proper way to police for it even if it were to be considered, so it's best to leave it be.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Uncharted 4.You are taking the easy route. Stick your neck out and predict which one among these will win
generic_username
I switched to an alt account to ditch my embarrassing tag so I could be an embarrassing Naughty Dog fanboy in peace. Ask me anything!
Strong choice. I think you will end up being right.
I think for people who game only on Nintendo platforms, most games being mentioned end up as exclusives. Cannot fault them for that.
yurinka
Member
So PS exclusive games + multiplatform were 70%+ of the games that Gaf voted as goty for 2014 and 2015.
And people still say that PS4 and Vita didn't have games and some wonder why PS4 sold like that.
Megatron
Member
Yes. Of course that opinion is worth less. How can you argue otherwise? If the only game you played all year is Tony Hawk 5, that's the best game you played in 2015. If you played 29 other games in addition to that, it's likely the 30th best game. I think if you don't put in a full ballot, your votes should drop a little. if you put in 8 it should look like:
1.X
2.X
3.Game 1
4. Game 2
5. Game 3
etc down the list. So your 1 would get the points of game 3 in a ten game list.
If you only vote for 5 games it should be
1.X
2.X
3.X
4.X
5.X
6. Game 1
7. Game 2
etc.
Just my opinion, but ultimately it doesn't matter all that much. It's just a fun exercise for forum posters.
To think that alot of people were complaining about some Bloodborne fans only voting for it smh
it's pretty much almost even between BB and Witcher 3 in that regard.
Jawbreaker
Member
The "rivalry" only exists because the games launched relatively close. For many who played Bloodborne before The Witcher 3, the combat in the latter fell very flat. It wasn't so much that they wanted Bloodborne combat transplanted into The Witcher 3, it simply felt lacking and less satisfying in comparison to them. Since they released a little less than two months apart, Bloodborne was still fresh in the minds of gamers who played both titles, so it was only natural for that to be the point of comparison.
A decent number of threads and comments regarding combat in The Witcher 3 began to surface—and have persisted—where this specific comparison is brought up. After a certain point, a lot of the more fervent Witchas began to take exception to it and lashed back at the Bournes. This all came to a head when the VGAs robbed Papa Bourne of a win and the Witchas ridiculed the Bournes suggesting they were an insufferable cult. A meme was born and Poe's law came into effect in many threads.
While this certainly riled up a few posters, it was merely a vocal minority. Many people who've played both titles tend to rank them highly and respect the opinions of one another. Looking at the submissions, this seems to hold true.
A decent number of threads and comments regarding combat in The Witcher 3 began to surface—and have persisted—where this specific comparison is brought up. After a certain point, a lot of the more fervent Witchas began to take exception to it and lashed back at the Bournes. This all came to a head when the VGAs robbed Papa Bourne of a win and the Witchas ridiculed the Bournes suggesting they were an insufferable cult. A meme was born and Poe's law came into effect in many threads.
While this certainly riled up a few posters, it was merely a vocal minority. Many people who've played both titles tend to rank them highly and respect the opinions of one another. Looking at the submissions, this seems to hold true.
I hope Megatron's idea never becomes reality. I voted for 8 titles, not because I only played 8 titles but because I don't think the other 20 titles deserved to be on my list.
Padding my list just to satisfy people that don't think I have the proper frame of reference for my own personal list and my vote counts less is very exclusionary.
Padding my list just to satisfy people that don't think I have the proper frame of reference for my own personal list and my vote counts less is very exclusionary.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I have to imagine the people calling for a change of "you need to play more than one game to vote" are new like me. Otherwise i see no need for anybody who's been thru this goty stuff before to want it to all of a sudden change now other than being mad what they wanted didn't win