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[VGEsoterica]

Five months ago I did a video talking about Nintendo DCMA'ing Valve and the Dolphin devs about Dolphin being available in the Steam Store...and while the Dolphin devs def poked the bear with what they were up to I said that I def felt Nintendo was going to go after emulation in a big way sometime in the future. Well at least they waited five months.

Their new "content guidelines" are nothing short of 10/10 level stupid; would kill all speedruns with no commentary, would kill any historical analysis of the games, would prevent any footage not from Nintendo licensed hardware from appearing anywhere online, etc etc etc. And you thought Microsoft was being crappy by locking out non-approved USB controllers. Nintendo went for the GOLD with this

It's so hard to enjoy Nintendo GAMES when you realize the Nintendo COMPANY has such wildly backwards thinking all the time. And before you ask I have a background in Copyright / IP and have dealt with it extensively in my career...and none of these guidelines seem enforceable whatsoever...but that wont stop Nintendo from leaning on every company to remove anything they dislike because the golden rule applies...."he who has all the gold makes the rules"

 

[Punished Miku]

I support Nintendo nuking it all from orbit at this point. Blame the millions of pirates playing their games a week before release. Poking a bear is stupid for a reason. They're giant killing machines.

 

[RoboFu]

I mean… it mainly affects streamers and YouTubers … who cares really?

 

[VGEsoterica]

I mean… it mainly affects streamers and YouTubers … who cares really?

plenty of people. and it goes against basically the entire system of laws we have in the US on fair use, etc etc.

 

[64bitmodels]

It's so hard to enjoy Nintendo GAMES when you realize the Nintendo COMPANY has such wildly backwards thinking all the time. And before you ask I have a background in Copyright / IP and have dealt with it extensively in my career...and none of these guidelines seem enforceable whatsoever...but that wont stop Nintendo from leaning on every company to remove anything they dislike because the golden rule applies...."he who has all the gold makes the rules"

50 bucks says they're gonna make another creator program where you pay them 50% of your ad revenue to make overtly positive videos on their games glossing over all potential flaws. Remember the Nintendo Creator Program days? yeah, i do.

I mean… it mainly affects streamers and YouTubers … who cares really?

Everybody who uses Youtube and Twitch. A whole lotta people.

 

[SGRU]

It's so hard to enjoy Nintendo GAMES when you realize the Nintendo COMPANY has such wildly backwards thinking all the time.

Nintendo is the worst company in the market when it comes to user rights.

 

[RoboFu]

plenty of people. and it goes against basically the entire system of laws we have in the US on fair use, etc etc.

How many fake movie trailers and click bait titled videos must we endure for freedom !!?? How many !!??

I hope everything ends up like this.


Just Play the games for enjoyment of the games

 

[VGEsoterica]

50 bucks says they're gonna make another creator program where you pay them 50% of your ad revenue to make overtly positive videos on their games glossing over all potential flaws. Remember the Nintendo Creator Program days? yeah, i do.

Everybody who uses Youtube and Twitch. A whole lotta people.

And plenty of others. GDQ? Per Nintendo guidelines any “exploits” aren’t allowed. So speed runs of Nintendo games that aren’t “glitchless”…Nintendo says no

 

[Raonak]

Nintendo legitimately hates it's fans.

 

[64bitmodels]

How many fake movie trailers and click bait titled videos must we endure for freedom !!?? How many !!??

I hope everything ends up like this.

Just Play the games for enjoyment of the games

I mean sure, we play games. But we also like watching videos about them. That's a major part of the fun. trailers, analysis, reviews, fan animation.... This is like 40% the appeal of playing video games, the community and the love for the IP. shutting that down with these new laws helps no one.

I support Nintendo nuking it all from orbit at this point. Blame the millions of pirates playing their games a week before release.

Tell Nintendo to get better security and hardware and maybe the pirates wouldn't be an issue.

Also, there surely aren't millions of pirates. Maybe like 3-4 million, at best. Nothing in comparison to the Switch userbase.

 

[bender]

Still love you and think you are one of our best posters, but.

It's so hard to enjoy Nintendo GAMES

It really isn't.

 

[64bitmodels]

Still love you and think you are one of our best posters, but.



It really isn't.

It's easy to enjoy Nintendo games. It's harder to actually talk about them without worry of the Ninjas getting on your back.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

I support Nintendo nuking it all from orbit at this point. Blame the millions of pirates playing their games a week before release. Poking a bear is stupid for a reason. They're giant killing machines.

Toothless bear, they are not going to win against emulation.

 

[Punished Miku]

I mean sure, we play games. But we also like watching videos about them. That's a major part of the fun. trailers, analysis, reviews, fan animation.... This is like 40% the appeal of playing video games, the community and the love for the IP. shutting that down with these new laws helps no one.

Tell Nintendo to get better security and hardware and maybe the pirates wouldn't be an issue.

Also, there surely aren't millions of pirates. Maybe like 3-4 million, at best. Nothing in comparison to the Switch userbase.

Nuke it. Sort it out after we cant count the casualties anymore.

 

[RoboFu]

How many times have you seen clear open unavoidable spoilers for games in YouTube titles and thumbnails?

Let YouTubers burn!!!

 

[bender]

It's easy to enjoy Nintendo games. It's harder to actually talk about them without worry of the Ninjas getting on your back.

Harder to talk about them or harder to monetize talking about them? And that's not me defending Nintendo as they are often backwards when it comes to these types of things.

 

[ReBurn]

Nintendo legitimately hates it's fans.

They like the fans who pay them. They don't like the fans that use their IP to get paid.

 

[NeverYouMind]

I hope content creators abandon Nintendo in mass and they lose sales as a result. This is absurd levels of corporate overreach over publicly available services.

 

[64bitmodels]

Toothless bear, they are not going to win against emulation.

Nintendo isn't toothless, this is them baring their teeth. It's more like a Bear going up against a hydra.

How many times have you seen clear open unavoidable spoilers for games in YouTube titles and thumbnails?

Let YouTubers burn!!!

there's this thing in the top right corner of your screen. it's called an X button. You click it and the spoilers go away. Give it a try, it might save you from spoilers one day

Harder to talk about them or harder to monetize talking about them?

Judging by Nintendo striking down GilvaSunner, a channel which never ran ads on any of their videos, I think that Nintendo just hates anyone talking about their games who isn't sponsored or endorsed by them

 

[Sleepwalker]

How many times have you seen clear open unavoidable spoilers for games in YouTube titles and thumbnails?

Let YouTubers burn!!!

Actually not once, I don't doubt some people have but I don't understand how it happens lol

 

[Banjo64]

plenty of people. and it goes against basically the entire system of laws we have in the US on fair use, etc etc.

Oh my god. US law? How could they?

 

[VGEsoterica]

I mean sure, we play games. But we also like watching videos about them. That's a major part of the fun. trailers, analysis, reviews, fan animation.... This is like 40% the appeal of playing video games, the community and the love for the IP. shutting that down with these new laws helps no one.

Tell Nintendo to get better security and hardware and maybe the pirates wouldn't be an issue.

Also, there surely aren't millions of pirates. Maybe like 3-4 million, at best. Nothing in comparison to the Switch userbase.

Thing is they aren’t laws. They are Nintendo rules that go against settler US case law.

You can write any rule you want but that doesn’t make it enforceable

 

[R6Rider]

The fact that people are defending this or downplaying fair use is fucking sad.

 

[VGEsoterica]

Still love you and think you are one of our best posters, but.



It really isn't.

Haha thanks.

It makes it harder for me to spend my $$ when I see this stuff. I don’t like giving my cash to “the bad guys”

 

[64bitmodels]

I don’t like giving my cash to “the bad guys”

every corporation you give your money to is the bad guys. But there are some that are badder than others.

 

[Dacvak]

The DCMA system is abhorrently flawed, especially in practice. Nintendo sucks for exploiting it so hard.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Nintendo's cult is orders of magnitude stronger than Sony's and MS's...COMBINED....I'm shivering just by the thought of it.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

every corporation you give your money to is the bad guys. But there are some that are badder than others.

Not every

 

[VGEsoterica]

Not every

Hahaha I was wondering when this would show up

 

[Punished Miku]

The fact that people are defending this or downplaying fair use is fucking sad.

I want collateral damage.

 

[Sleepwalker]

The fact that people are defending this or downplaying fair use is fucking sad.

Plenty of really weird opinions in here. Don't really have the energy to argue but it definitely is super sad.

 

[Hardensoul]

Let’s be real most emulators aren’t buying games! I don’t care if you emulate games that are over 10-20yrs old that can’t be bought anymore. But when a game that is not released yet and we see current released and sometimes games that aren’t released yet being emulated it’s fucked up!

I don’t blame companies like Nintendo doing what they can to fight it!

 

[bender]

Judging by Nintendo striking down GilvaSunner, a channel which never ran ads on any of their videos, I think that Nintendo just hates anyone talking about their games who isn't sponsored or endorsed by them

Not familiar with GilvaSunner but the second half of your statement is probably correct and that creator got caught up in a wave and not singled out in particular. I think Nintendo is just really conservative and tries to protect their IPs (as they should) even if they are overstepping bounds. Someone or a rather a group of "someones" need to challenge fair use in court.

It makes it harder for me to spend my $$ when I see this stuff. I don’t like giving my cash to “the bad guys”

I guess I don't see them as the bad guys. They are trying to protect their IP from the slippery slope, as they should. That doesn't mean I think they are in the right, but that's really something that should be challenged in the courts. I'd say that is something that should be challenged on the hosting platforms but Youtube and Twitch are a fucking mess when it comes to this. Just look at the recent SSSniperwolf dram.

 

[64bitmodels]

The DCMA system is abhorrently flawed, especially in practice. Nintendo sucks for exploiting it so hard.

This more than anything is the real issue. It's how that QuantumTV fucktard managed to screw over one of the biggest gaming channels on Youtube, DMCA takedowns. If IP and copyright laws were patched up and totally rewritten for a 21st century internet perspective, this would never happen.

 

[NeverYouMind]

I find it telling that most of the people in the thread that support this have Nintendo avatars...

 

[Hardensoul]

This sounds like Dejavu! Right before Switch launch they had new content guidelines and same before WiiU launch. Switch 2 imminent?

 

[Hardensoul]

Oh my god. US law? How could they?

Yea! We Americans are the world!

 

[VGEsoterica]

This sounds like Dejavu! Right before Switch launch they had new content guidelines and same before WiiU launch. Switch 2 imminent?

Haha you might be onto something

 

[Banjo64]

I find it telling that most of the people in the thread that support this have Nintendo avatars...

I don’t have a Nintendo avatar, it’s a Famitsu avatar.

 

[calistan]

If you take a screenshot of a Nintendo game, the copyright in the screenshot is owned by Nintendo. From a PR point of view it's possibly counterproductive of them to enforce that copyright, but the fact that it exists means you're relying on their good grace if you ever try to profit from it or misuse it - and Nintendo will be the party that decides what constitutes misuse.

They used that rule to take down unofficial Pokemon guidebooks in the past.

 

[NeverYouMind]

I don’t have a Nintendo avatar, it’s a Famitsu avatar.

Ok, Link...

 

[64bitmodels]

I don’t have a Nintendo avatar, it’s a Famitsu avatar.

of a Nintendo game.

 

[Banjo64]

Ok, Link...

of a Nintendo game.

I don’t know who link is. I’m just a Japanese magazine enthusiast.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

It's Nintendo, the gaming industry will let it pass.

 

[K' Dash]

I just play the games, I don't give a fuck about youtubers.

 

[Danjin44]

Maybe its shitty thing to say but I'm not YouTuber or streamer and I rarely watch other people play video games, so......

 

[RoboFu]

Oh my god. US law? How could they?

YouTube video : “ this one weird trick which us lawyers Hate!!”

 

[64bitmodels]

YouTube video : “ this one weird trick is lawyers Hate!!”

i've seen more youtube videos parodying that setup than i have seen youtube videos using it unironically

I'm gonna assume you're a boomer, here.

 

[The Pleasure]

To all those people making money on Nintendo content

 

[rkofan87]

dam a lot of hate for lets plays and video game live streams on gaf sad