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No Man's Sky has brought in £40 million in revenue in 2022 for Hello Games (up from £27 million a year before)
- Thread starter Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Explains their massive support
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
This is that kind of game like GTA Online where no one I know plays it, but lots of people play it. Awesome numbers for Hello Games, though. It's amazing to see where they've come from the rocky PS4 launch.
BouncyFrag
Member
It’s everywhere now. Switch port got a nice update recently.
Portugeezer
Member
They get a small boost every now when they do a big update, people talk, sales spike, rinse and repeat.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
THIS.................is how you do GAAS. It doesn't have to be a Fortnight knock off.
alphachino
Member
What's this guy's name again? He's a G.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Kerotan
Member
It's all a money laundering scheme where they have bots and A.I. making up the player numbers.
Belthazar
Member
It is not common, but can happen when a company has higher non-operating income than total operating costs.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
One time items can do this. Sometimes things happen that generate income that are not reported in the revenue from the operation of the business, such as gains from an investment. I don't know what the particular instance is for Hello Games, but if they had something like an equity investment in a company and that company was sold for a profit the money earned from that sale wouldn't be considered revenue because it didn't come from the normal operation of the business, but it would be considered income.
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DeaDPo0L84
Member
Forget dollars, can they speak to what the engagement numbers are?
March Climber
Member
Why is this slowly becoming the new metric on this forum? I feel like people here didn't used to care about active player count of single player games* before.
*=Yes I know NMS can technically have multiplayer but it is also an experience that can be easily enjoyed solo and offline.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Sean Murray, co-founder of Hello Games.
nowhat
Member
It's not really GaaS now is it, though? I mean, they don't charge anything extra. All the updates are free. But I've been wondering how they can afford it, and here you go. Good for them.
nowhat
Member
A certain player in the games industry chooses to advertise their userbase/success by said metric. It's stupid, which is why people are making fun of it.
Physiognomonics
Member
Yep it's not GaaS at all. It's more like following Nintendo business model with Animal crossing. They found a great formula and simply stick with it and are constantly improving it.
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Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
It 100% is GaaS. The S in GaaS is not a dollar sign. They have a live service game that they're generating revenue from. How is that not GaaS?
nowhat
Member
How is it a live service? There are some servers out there for sure to facilitate the multiplayer component (which, I'm willing to bet, is not used very extensively), but apart from that, it's a one time fee for a game. Whereas what people generally consider a GaaS game includes microtransactions, season/battle passes, paying for latest expansions, whatnot. You know, continued revenue, the thing that makes the suits come. There's none of that here.
I bought the game on release way back on PS4, based on the hype. Was majorly disappointed. But now that I can run something that's a completely different game, on PSVR 2 - Hello Games and/or Sean Murray, you have been forgiven. As a matter of fact Sean, I'll buy you a beer if I ever meet you.
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Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Engagement as a metric is not new, or unique to gaming/neogaf. It's actually pretty useful. It's the number of people actively and continually using the product/service.
If you track how many people are using your product/service, and how they're using them, you can make fairly accurate predictions on how that behaviour will change and act accordingly (confidently charge more for PSN, for example).
nowhat
Member
Right. But just releasing engagement figures, instead of actual sales (especially when it comes to hardware) is pretty lame and pretty transparently a smoke screen.
ByWatterson
Member
But how many planets have been visited?
March Climber
Member
Yes, but why would this metric matter in a thread about a small-time developer earning 40 million in revenue? That's already a win and arguing about current day player count muddies the waters for no reason. Even if someone's intent were to point to steam concurrent and say 'See! the game is dead there's only 100 people playing!' that wouldn't matter because they've already sold well beyond what they've wanted to sell.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Hello Games believes it is
There's more than 1 way to generate revenue from a live service game. They obviously found a way. I guarantee you every developer out there is looking for more frictionless ways to generate revenue from their games.
If Destiny could make the same money it makes right now without the extra work that goes into monetization, they would do it in a heartbeat.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
I hope they have started development of their next game, because the money won't last forever.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
I guarantee Microsoft is giving investors actual dollar amounts for everything. I get your point though, and I agree.
I'm not sure why the person asked. Just wanted to point out that it's not a nothing metric. Obviously the UK Government has no reason to care about it, so it's not in this statement. And you're right. It's not something that's relevant to this thread.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
He mentioned that part of the team were working on something a few years ago. Last year he said they were still in the early stages, and he also said they wouldn't be talking about it too early to avoid what went down with NMS.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
If Sony or Microsoft owned Hello Games, NMS wouldn’t have been supported as long as it has - and wouldn’t be the game it is today.
Leave them be.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I don't know. Sony supported Dreams all this time. I could see them tolerating it longer than Microsoft. I think the thing that really keeps it going is the multi platform expansion. Something like this needs to be on as many platforms as possible to keep selling. Wouldn't have gotten that with being tied to one of the big three.
The artful mincer
Member
I read about a year ago Hello Games had close to 100 million in the bank.
Considering there only a 30 man they can keep updating this game for a Long long long long Time.
Considering there only a 30 man they can keep updating this game for a Long long long long Time.
Gambit2483
Member
As much work as they've put into the game post launch, yea, it's more than deserved. Especially getting this thing to run on the Switch.
March Climber
Member
Here's how, for about 6 years.
You're right in that it has to be nothing else other than double dips and new customers. A great comeback story and slowly releasing the game optimized on other platforms did wonders for it. This is a lightning in a bottle situation because it's a big game made by a small team. A team not being put under the constant pressure of a big publisher to keep making a graph line go up.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Live Service is a great model.
Solarstrike
Gold Member
Wish they would rework the animations. They're still jank. Get some mocap in there
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Denton
Member
This is like 30 people team that has made hundred+ million pounds and the game is still selling, and will keep selling for many years. I am pretty sure they will be fine, and their kids will be fine, and their grandkids will be fine.
