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NPD May 2011 Sales Results [Update 4: 3DS And Wii Hardware Sales]
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Jaded Alyx
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Nintendo must be scouring over old NPD PR from Sony circa 2007 for 'effective' methods of damage control.
zomgbbqftw
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Dance In My Blood said:
Yup, Nintendo family sales incoming...
A few years back, I actually predicted the that Wii could go from first to last once Microsoft, especially with Kinect/Natal, and Sony launches their motion control with better graphics. Of course, people back then responded that casual gamers only care about price and not graphics. My response was Waggle > graphics, but once everyone was on even footing, graphics became important. And, price wasn't big deal when you are only talking about $50-100 difference.nextgeneration said:
All though this doesn't apply to May, in the future Wii will decline even more because of the announcement of Wii U.
Related to this, with Microsoft's current success with Kinect and the 360, will they want hold onto it and hold off announcing a new console until sales slow down? If this continues long enough, will they try to go for the whole ten year cycle, or at least close to it?
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But most importantly, we will have some new numbers to play with and to back up our "Nintendo is DOOMED" claims with. Hooray!
Related to this, with Microsoft's current success with Kinect and the 360, will they want hold onto it and hold off announcing a new console until sales slow down? If this continues long enough, will they try to go for the whole ten year cycle, or at least close to it?
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But most importantly, we will have some new numbers to play with and to back up our "Nintendo is DOOMED" claims with. Hooray!
Four_Chamber
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Microsoft going into beast mode. They're really taking a hold of the US market.
I'm also not convinced that the handheld market is going to be very profitable in the US anymore. It, like the Wii, hit its peak a while back and is now coming back down to earth.
I'm also not convinced that the handheld market is going to be very profitable in the US anymore. It, like the Wii, hit its peak a while back and is now coming back down to earth.
m.i.s.
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nicknick said:
You know, I get so sick of this kind of response. Everyone knows, Nintendo is not a cottage industry and has cash reserves of tens of billions in the bank.
Just who, pray tell, is calling doom on Nintendo? Results appear to be bad and so they'll get bad press. That's only natural and it happened with PSP and it happened with PS3 and it happened with PSP GO.
Roll with the punches and all that.
Thunder Monkey
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This is the first time they've given anyone a clear shot at the handheld market. The price has stopped only but the most ardent fans from supporting it, it's software lineup has been woefully inadequate for such a high priced handheld, it looks like the next year is going to improve that drastically, but who knows what will happen.nicknick said:
I will admit that I consider myself a Nintendo fanboy. I generally always love the companies approach to gimmicks. But in a lot of ways the 3DS seems like a PS3 style screw up. No defining software to make the price acceptable. I still question if a more or less purely gaming handheld system can be priced over $200 and expect to thrive.
Well... I may love their games with all of my heart, even gaining enjoyment from Metroid: Other M when played on mute. But if they don't have the defining 3DS game out by the end of this year, they might have just taken their sure thing market, and turned it into something they actually have to defend.
UberTag
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It's quite sad. I actually had to post to defend the Wii in this thread and I'm not exactly a huge believer in Wii U right now. It's like people expect the industry to just conform to their distorted visions of status overnight.nicknick said:
The Wii is probably a healthy 2nd place this month (improving from being a narrow 3rd the past two) and lined up to finish 1st next month on the basis of no software and being little more than a glorified Mario Kart / Just Dance / Zumba Fitness machine. Yet people are beating the "Nintendo is doomed in the console space" drum louder than ever.
The Wii U may be a big 'ole question mark but the Wii is still a success story.
The other thing that's distorting perception right now is the absence of budget awareness for a lot of these titles.
All of the "congratulations Brink" remarks for Bethesda and Splash Damage might be for nought if both the production and advertising budgets for that title were severely out of whack with reality. Despite finishing 4th in March, Homefront moved twice as much product then as Brink did in May and Kaos Studios was promptly shut down. All things considered, Brink "only finishing a distant 2nd in a relatively competition-free environment" may still be perceived as a disappointment. Just saying.
One last thing...
The Nintendo DS had a holiday launch at $149 whereas the 3DS had a spring non-holiday launch at $249. Just factoring in North America, the DS hit disastrously dismal numbers in its first year based on a complete void of software that the 3DS hasn't even come close to sinking to as of yet.Thunder Monkey said:
With a killer lineup of software on deck, the 3DS should perform fine over the long haul considering its entry point. The only market where there may be some cause for concern right now is Europe.
Sorry if old.
Pachter says:
Wii: 236K
3DS: 97K
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...utraNews+(Gamasutra+News)&utm_content=Twitter
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Pachter says:
Wii: 236K
3DS: 97K
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...utraNews+(Gamasutra+News)&utm_content=Twitter
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Father_Brain
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edit: beaten to the numbers
I was expecting the 3DS drop to be smaller than 50%, but I can't say the system didn't deserve it considering the lack of software releases. June will be interesting with OOT and Mercenaries, but the current schedule indicates another drought coming through July and August.
I was expecting the 3DS drop to be smaller than 50%, but I can't say the system didn't deserve it considering the lack of software releases. June will be interesting with OOT and Mercenaries, but the current schedule indicates another drought coming through July and August.
Father_Brain
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iidesuyo said:
I have no doubt that it'll sell extremely well and be a significant system-seller worldwide, but only in the short term. It's hardly brimming with evergreen potential. 3DS sales will fall back down to earth in July and August, with no major software releases currently scheduled for those months.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
97k
WELP
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
WELP
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
You're right on the main point.szaromir said:
mentalfloss
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Wii numbers are fine.
They need software now to get those 3DS numbers up.
The good news for Nintendo at least is that their competitor hasn't released yet.
They need software now to get those 3DS numbers up.
szaromir said:
The good news for Nintendo at least is that their competitor hasn't released yet.
demosthenes
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Bisnic said:Still no Nintendo numbers?
Must be some disaster.
At this point I doubt we'll be getting numbers from Nintendo.
edit: Beaten as Patcher releases lol
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Wii numbers are surprisingly higher than I thought.
97K for 3DS ...ouch!
That's what they get for releasing this thing without any quality software. I'm very interested to see what bump, if any, they get when Zelda is released.
Why Nintendo doesn't make it a requirement for each system to launch with a new Mario game is beyond me.
97K for 3DS ...ouch!
That's what they get for releasing this thing without any quality software. I'm very interested to see what bump, if any, they get when Zelda is released.
Why Nintendo doesn't make it a requirement for each system to launch with a new Mario game is beyond me.
Wii sales will most likely continue to keep going down thanks to Wii U, maybe with a little bump when Skyward Sword comes out. As far as the 3DS goes, there just isn't that much good software out yet. Ocarina will help, and the holiday release schedule seems pretty strong. But for now, it won't sell that well.
LiquidMetal14
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I'm not happy to see good HW not selling (even if overpriced) BUT they absolutely deserve paltry sales for the horrific launch window they've exhibited.Plinko said:
They should have held it at least a few months. I had this discussion in the thread yesterday but the best game they will have is an enhanced port of a 10+ year old game. That's not awesome by any stretch.
Megadragon15
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This is PSPesque.gofreak said:
Father_Brain
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mentalfloss said:
Not that it's going to be a multimillion-seller, but I have no idea why NoA is releasing SF64 in September when the Japanese release is in July.
Joe Shlabotnik
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<Insert appropriate gif here for 3DS numbers.>
For what it's worth, Nintendo is my favoritest company and the 3DS is the first Nintendo console I haven't bought at launch in... I don't know how long. And that includes the first two revisions of the DS. Sorry, Big N!
This is also a good point. Nintendo doesn't usually have fall-back plans for its hardware. If it's not working out, they take it out to the back and shoot it.
For what it's worth, Nintendo is my favoritest company and the 3DS is the first Nintendo console I haven't bought at launch in... I don't know how long. And that includes the first two revisions of the DS. Sorry, Big N!
[Nintex] said:
This is also a good point. Nintendo doesn't usually have fall-back plans for its hardware. If it's not working out, they take it out to the back and shoot it.
Can they afford to ignore their fundamental market and newly released product? I don't think so. They'll have to drop the price, launch more and better online services and invest in more games, first and third party developed. Hopefully even let garage developers access the platform on XLIG terms, that would be amazing, though it's a fool's dream.[Nintex] said:
zomgbbqftw
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97k!?! Oh shit son, 3DS is doing worse than even I thought it was...
I'm starting to think that even Vita may be too expensive at $249, it is just a lot of money for a dedicated gaming handheld. Sony are going to have to really push all of the non-gaming features of Vita to make it a success.
I'm starting to think that even Vita may be too expensive at $249, it is just a lot of money for a dedicated gaming handheld. Sony are going to have to really push all of the non-gaming features of Vita to make it a success.
A system without games doesn't sell, shocking. I bet Nintendo executives are having a heart attack right about now. "Bu-bu-bu releasing no games worked so well for Wii "
"Coming up from Nintendo GameBoy HD along with Pokemon Cyan and Teal. They dropped the Cube in 2004 to focus on the DS. It won't happen overnight but if the 3DS continues to fail they'll shift to something else. They won't subsidize something that doesn't sell.szaromir said:
Yeah, if they had really pushed for Mario Kart and Ocarina at launch (wasn't Ocarina actually pushed back from launch to not "overshadow" 3rd party games?), things wouldn't have been so bad.Plinko said:
The strategy of letting 3rd parties carry the launch doesn't really work when the 3rd parties haven't finished any of their big projects yet.
[Nintex] said:
But, at the same time, I don't think that they'd concede such a large market, unless they thought that the Vita would be an equally fantastical bomb.
[Nintex] said:A system without games doesn't sell, shocking. I bet Nintendo executives are having a heart attack right about now. "Bu-bu-bu releasing no games worked so well for Wii
They said... as they peered over Japanese sales charts from 2008 onwards?