I don't have access to numbers and I can guarantee that Uncharted 4 was far from the main reason Crash has done this well
Regardless, quite impressive numbers
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I don't have access to numbers and I can guarantee that Uncharted 4 was far from the main reason Crash has done this well
Regardless, quite impressive numbers
Man United beat Man City yesterday, but it doesn't matter because it's preseason. Everything prior to October is also preseason to Microsoft.
harrisk954
Member
Almost 3 -to-1ing... and almost 2-to-1ing NS (although I know that there are supply constraints with the Switch).
Good for Crash, playing it in UC4 made me quite nostalgic despite Crash never being a franchise I gravitated towards. Personally the new fancy graphics lacks the charm of the original and the change in jumping physics put me off. I would rather play PS1 Crash if Sony would only allow PS1 BC.
What a year 2017 is turning out to be for gaming! I really, really hope the original Spyro trilogy is next for Activision. As much as I like Crash, Spyro will always be my favorite PlayStation series.
Worldwide Crash success after only 2 days on the market is very well deserved and reminds me of Nioh and Nier from earlier in the year. All three of these games could be considered mid-tier compared to the popular annual franchises and new IP that Ubisoft pumps out every year. In a time in the industry where we're trying to figure out whether games like this still have a place and can be successful, it's really nice to see them all not just doing well, but exceeding expectations. (Nier) (Nioh)
What's fascinating is that all three of these games are very successful without being on multiple consoles. There's obviously a level of risk associated with every game in this industry but here, if these games can be hugely successful without ever gracing Xbox One or Switch, what kind of message does that send to publishers when they plan out future mid-tier games? (I'm just focusing on mid-tier here, not indie or AAA which tend to have a slightly different strategy.)
Crash may come out on Xbox One at some point but it's abundantly clear that the audience is on PS4 and they are more than enough to make the game successful. If Activision remasters the Spyro trilogy, why prioritize Xbox or even Switch after this response to Crash? For Koei Tecmo, why prioritize either of those two systems if they make another game like Nioh? Likewise for Square Enix?
Because of how successful these games have proven to be on just PS4, even if exclusivity deals were in place to get this specific content there in the first place, I wonder if at least some publishers will start to consider PlayStation first without being asked for exclusivity, again, simply because we now know the audience for these kinds of games is on PlayStation and they are willing to spend the money to play them.
Between this scenario and the multiplatform splits being as high as 75-25 or 85-15 in favor of PS4 (vs Xbox), I think it speaks to years and years of Sony cultivating the fanbase to enjoy a wide variety of games that third-party publishers can then tap into and be successful. This stuff doesn't happen overnight so they deserve a lot of credit for being where they are today.
Worldwide Crash success after only 2 days on the market is very well deserved and reminds me of Nioh and Nier from earlier in the year. All three of these games could be considered mid-tier compared to the popular annual franchises and new IP that Ubisoft pumps out every year. In a time in the industry where we're trying to figure out whether games like this still have a place and can be successful, it's really nice to see them all not just doing well, but exceeding expectations. (Nier) (Nioh)
What's fascinating is that all three of these games are very successful without being on multiple consoles. There's obviously a level of risk associated with every game in this industry but here, if these games can be hugely successful without ever gracing Xbox One or Switch, what kind of message does that send to publishers when they plan out future mid-tier games? (I'm just focusing on mid-tier here, not indie or AAA which tend to have a slightly different strategy.)
Crash may come out on Xbox One at some point but it's abundantly clear that the audience is on PS4 and they are more than enough to make the game successful. If Activision remasters the Spyro trilogy, why prioritize Xbox or even Switch after this response to Crash? For Koei Tecmo, why prioritize either of those two systems if they make another game like Nioh? Likewise for Square Enix?
Because of how successful these games have proven to be on just PS4, even if exclusivity deals were in place to get this specific content there in the first place, I wonder if at least some publishers will start to consider PlayStation first without being asked for exclusivity, again, simply because we now know the audience for these kinds of games is on PlayStation and they are willing to spend the money to play them.
Between this scenario and the multiplatform splits being as high as 75-25 or 85-15 in favor of PS4 (vs Xbox), I think it speaks to years and years of Sony cultivating the fanbase to enjoy a wide variety of games that third-party publishers can then tap into and be successful. This stuff doesn't happen overnight so they deserve a lot of credit for being where they are today.
Obliterator
Member
Over 400k units in only 2 days for Crash is fucking impressive. Expect strong legs in July
EGOMON
Member
Same here in the Middle East you can find it in any game store.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Just Final Fantasy and Splatoon.
harrisk954
Member
Where was PS2 at this point in its lifecycle?
Same question for PS3...
Thanks for the insight!
Thats how it was during the PS2 era. I still can't see the PS4 doing PS2 lifetime numbers, but a 100 million seller is very possible now in the PS4.
harrisk954
Member
How about $199 for the slim and $299 for the Pro on BF? That would take all momentum out of MS's sails when it comes to the launch of the XB1X. Based upon those leaked month-by-month numbers, XB1 is dying in the US and a very expensive XB1X is not going to help that slide.
gundamkyoukai
Member
No .
XB1 had two huge months since it came out around Nov and Dec .
Still if Nintendo had the supply things would look much better for switch .
No publishers are gonna be giving away "default" exclusives, not beyond what we've been seeing with Japanese games anyway (Persona, Yakuza, Kingdom Hearts etc)
I doubt Norway is relevant in this case. The total number shipped here must be less than the lowest shipment Japan got.
Astral Dog
Member
Seems like Disgaea was not a complete bomb 💣
Yea this should give publishers, devs, Sony hope for these types of games. I know Ratchet n Clank already did but this helps even more.
AmayaPapaya
Banned
I didn't know Tekken was so popular...would have never expected it to be first.
They already said much. Western sales were higher than expected, hence why mote games has been announced.
Liabe Brave
Member
After 44 months in the US:
PS2: 23.3m
PS3: 12.7m
PS4: 19.3m
Next holiday (Nov/Dec) for each, after the numbers above:
PS2: 1.7m (6th highest)
PS3: 1.8m (2nd highest)
PS4: ???
FIXED PS3: Because I am doofus.
I don't remember all the footnotes for those asterisks and pluses, could we get them again please?
IIRC: One asterisk: No digital
Two asterisks: No Battlenet sales
Plus: It just part of the name of the game
Mikey Jr.
Member
PS2 pretty much had zero competition in the US, so beating that would be pretty damn hard.
But PS4 is close to PS2 world wide sales though, right?
MatPiscatella
Member
Sure, me too. Splatoon 2 and Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age should also do well, and Hey! Pikmin and EDIT:OOPS will be interesting to watch and could surprise.
Literally no one is doing this.
To be fair everything IS really dying. Including ourselves, the earth, the sun and the universe itself. We are today one day closer to the End of Everything
No lies detected. Life is short. Don't waste it on console warz.
Some others touched on this, but I wanted to as well. I think you've misread the intention.
Every product has two types of demand: Base Demand and Incremental Demand. Base demand comes from core attributes and qualities of a product. The product itself, the marketing, the base pricing, and the baseline distribution (how many stores it's in, for example). Incremental demand comes from short term changes to things like price, promotion and distribution.
Baseline demand for a product is what demand would be without any additional promotional support. Incremental demand is the additional demand generated by things like temporary price drops, and things like additional placement either in a store (like getting an endcap) or virtually (getting on the Amazon front page).
Identifying that there was a temporary price drop and additional promotion for the PS4 in the month isn't an attempt to discount performance, but rather explain why performance is better than would normally be expected.
The promotional pricing and placement drove incremental demand that, when added to the baseline demand, resulted in the performance. It's always good when doing sales analysis to identify the factors that could have impacted both base and incremental demand.
That's all.
ethomaz
Banned
DQ11 is Japan only in July
It is ahead... probably some 2-4 millions yet due PS2 being production numbers and not shipment to retail.
DriftingSpirit
Member
DQ11 is Japan only for now. We still need that west date.
Sorry, completely offttopic, but after Orange is the new black I literally cant stop think in
when I read your name.
And yes, with that Russian's red pronunciation.
Now on topic, someone please explain to me GTAV success. Is it possible that newcomers are people that is now interested in game because of its improved online mode?
MatPiscatella
Member
There's only like a dozen or so Piscatella-s in the US (lot of Piscatelli-s, bunch of Piscatello-s) so no one was weirded out by that more than I was.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I've recently really enjoyed playing it, and it's still in the top 10 for the year. Will probably hit 1.1 in a couple months
Sorry, completely offttopic, but after Orange is the new black I literally cant stop think in
when I read your name.
And yes, with that Russian's red pronunciation.
Now on topic, someone please explain to me GTAV success. Is it possible that newcomers are people that is now interested in game because of its improved online mode?
Ugh I HATED that dude.
A part they need is also used by Apple for the iPhone and by Amazon for their Kindles I believe. They get priority over Nintendo. It's not really something Nintendo can fix.
Liabe Brave
Member
It's a tough number to top, but I don't know that I'd say no competition is the reason. Original Xbox and Gamecube combined are in the same general ballpark as Xbox One+WiiU+Switch over the same period.
Not really... once you get a comfortable lead you get all sorts of advantages. It gets the more known platform (and Playstation has had a name since the first one already), more people have friends on it so online players gravitate more towards it, it gets seen as the "one to have", the developers see more market on it so tend to favor it or at the very least are cheaper/easier to pay to get advantages on it.
It's hard in technology to be the 2nd one and the best way to avoid that is to get the jump at the start. And whoever is in lead has it easier to stay in lead, especially if they've had that lead for a while and really gotten name recognition, especially when it comes to consoles.
They probably picked that name cause of that.
MatPiscatella
Member
Wanted to get back to this one.
In terms of 1H performance, the first half of 2015 has outperformed 2017 in terms of full game sales, driven by (in alphabetical order) Dragon Ball: Xenoverse and Mortal Kombat X.
1H 2016 also did better in terms of non-Smash 1H pushed by (in alphabetical order) Mortal Kombat X, Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4, Pokken Tournament, Street Fighter V and UFC 2.
So, certainly a great half for fighting games, but more a continuation of a trend more than something new.
KillerMan91
Member
I was wondering that no way PS3 and PS4 are that close when PS4 has destroyed PS3 every year launch aligned in US and I checked numbers myself. You have PS3 way off. After 44 months PS3 was at 12.7 million in US.
Primethius
Banned
I'd feel sad for Prey if the market leading version for NPD purposes wasn't so badly gimped. But it is, so the results aren't surprising.
Sangetsu-II
Member
I'm amazed PS4 is still beating out PS2 WW. Like still in shock.
Are you sure about PS3 numbers? They look quite reasonable to me. Or in other words look like PS4 is not doing anything exceptional wrt to PS3 just Xbox one is doing terrible.
BTW what were Xbox 360 numbers were after 44 months?
LegendofLex
Member
People need to remember that PS2 didn't have a massive geographic footprint from the moment it launched, whereas PS4 got into lots of different regions/countries really quickly.
IIRC, part of the reason PS2 sold so many units after PS3 came out was that Sony kept pushing into new regions (like India).
Everything has DLC, but SFV's DLC has like 30 years of nostalgia built in and they got A LOT of stages and costumes for sale at like $4 a pop. And then you got the season passes, two of them so far, at $30. If just 10 percent of the install base buys one season pass Capcom makes almost $5 million.
didn't the PS2 go for something like $99?
LordRaptor
Member
ElephantShell
Banned
Horizon being the 5th best selling game of the year so far is pretty decent, considering it's the only game in the top 10 selling on only one platform.
I have it but let my brother borrow it before I really got into it, I really have to play that game when I get it back.
I have it but let my brother borrow it before I really got into it, I really have to play that game when I get it back.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
How do you guarantee it?
LegendofLex
Member
It did! But price isn't everything.
I'm talking about one of the reasons why PS2 kept going so big WW even after PS3 came out?
LordRaptor
Member
the PS2 was still selling strongly in the US according to NPDs well after its successor launched, in a way that the PS3 did not continue to sell, and it is likely that the PS4 will also not continue to sell post PS5 launch.