ethomaz
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That is really great
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gundamkyoukai
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I don't expect PS4 to sell as well as PS2 after PS5 comes out but it should do better than PS3.
Of course this depend on the price of PS4 ( $150 would be good ) and date for PS5.
Obliterator
Member
UC4 likely had a very small impact. The kids that grew up on Crash are now mid to late 20s with good purchasing power and strong nostalgia
Darth Smurf X
Member
With all this nostalgia, I wonder how well Micro Machines World Series did with 1 day on the chart.
LegendofLex
Member
It was selling well in the US.
But it was also selling well in lots of different places across the world where PlayStation (and other platforms) didn't have a strong foothold before.
PS4 is starting off with a much better global reach than PS2 in terms of the number of countries where it's being distributed. It's going to have an inherent launch-aligned unit advantage worldwide by virtue of that broader addressable market.
But I agree, it won't top PS2.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Didn't do anything it was mediocre and had no couch co-op and nobody online.
Harmondale
Member
Very impressive to see the 2015 Need for speee game still in top 20. Despite the negative reception this game seem to have on GAF, the game must be a success for EA
I would have loved a sequel of the 2015 edition instead of the fast and furious Stuff going on..
And_Gignac
Member
Is something they could have anticipated.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Still i remember more people wanting it after playing crash in UC4.
It sure help the nostalgia factor even if it was small amount.
LordRaptor
Member
It remains to be seen where exactly the manufacturing price floor is for the PS4 - things like a mandatory HDD elevate that floor, because improvements to HDD technology don't make lower capacity drives cheaper to buy, they make them impossible to source in bulk - which is why its likely you will see "value add" like larger capacity drives at existing MSRPs before full price cuts
Liabe Brave
Member
Of course you're correct. I added until June 2011 for PS3, not 2010. I've edited the post.
No, I made a mistake. The PS3 numbers were for 56 months, not 44. So the actual comparison is:
PS2: 23.3m
PS4: 19.3m
360: 15.5m
PS3: 12.7m
Sorry for the confusion.
nycgamer4ever
Member
5 is way better than 4. I never finished 4 but finished 5 two times.
Toni
Member
Oh god no.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Only the first game.
DriftingSpirit
Member
I'm 24 and the nostalgia is real for me.
Yearsoflurking
Member
I don't think uncharted had anything to do with crash numbers lol. I know people)(sample size lol) that bought ps4 because crash was releasing. Nostalgia is a bitch
gundamkyoukai
Member
I think his point is a lot of us are also in our 30's who grew up with crash lol.
You should be president of Nintendo, you sound like you know a lot of things
I expect PS4 to sell better than PS3 (~85 million) and the original PlayStation (~102 million) but not as well as PS2 (somewhere around 155 ~ 160 million).
GTA V still an absolute beast, like 45 months after being released on last-gen consoles, 31 months on current gen consoles and 26 months on PC.
(think I got the # of months right that GTA V has been out: from September 2013, November 2014 and April 2015, respectively).
GTA V still an absolute beast, like 45 months after being released on last-gen consoles, 31 months on current gen consoles and 26 months on PC.
(think I got the # of months right that GTA V has been out: from September 2013, November 2014 and April 2015, respectively).
I feel like we're past the point for the PS4 where individual software releases are going to drive hardware sales. Clearly it's passed the threshold where it will continue to sell well based on the weight of software released and still to come. I think price is now more of a factor (as we saw this month, although I actually think, to contradict my own point, Crash would have sold some consoles since it appeals to a different demo).
I mean, how many people are out there that are just waiting for Destiny 2 to release before buying a PS4? I'd wager most of those willing to spend $300 for Destiny 2 already have a PS4.
It's like when GTA4 released last gen and everyone was shocked that it didn't cause an increase in 360/PS3 sales.
I mean, how many people are out there that are just waiting for Destiny 2 to release before buying a PS4? I'd wager most of those willing to spend $300 for Destiny 2 already have a PS4.
It's like when GTA4 released last gen and everyone was shocked that it didn't cause an increase in 360/PS3 sales.
MatPiscatella
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Miniature Kaiju
Member
Mat, do you think that the PS4 has already reached the point in its life-cycle where diversifying target demographic segments becomes vital to keep sales momentum? Would you say the Pro is one such move?
Oh, here's one I've been curious about. Have Persona 5's monthly drops been in line with other RPGs, whether niche (Tales, Digimon) or blockbuster (FF15)? Media Create and Famitsu always show enormous, like 85%-ish weekly drops for RPGs but for some reason I wasn't sure if North American RPG sales behaved the same super front-loaded way.
Obliterator
Member
Correct. Kids. Grow up. Mid to late 20's
I'm 28 and played every Crash game when it released. Hence was a kid. That grew up. And is now in his late 20's.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Return of the King of Fighters (Tekken).
DriftingSpirit
Member
Nah, people buying consoles getting GTA with it.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
In a just world, a physical version of Sonic Mania.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Hopefully Spyro, but I feel like that may have aged really badly gameplay wise? I don't know I can't really remember.
Hot Shots Golf
Spyro still plays fine imo, I think the camera system could use some tuning though.
Jak and Daxter goddammit
DriftingSpirit
Member
Spyro time!
Liabe Brave
Member
As you say, price is a bigger factor now. But they can still potentially expand the audience with remaining properties that haven't appeared yet. Many AAA franchises have a lot of overlap with each other's audiences, but there are those which can stretch beyond typical gaming audiences. Dragon Quest XI can be that in Japan, and GTS in Europe. I'd argue that potentially Red Dead Redemption 2 or even Last of Us (though the remaster incurs doubt) might have some of the same effect in the US. This lists are very short, but the entries are real. Sales will start declining at some point, maybe this year...but these big tentpoles might make the downslope much gentler than otherwise.
Which is why I said upthread that I think bundling the sequel with Pro hardware instead is a good idea. That's a way to induce sales even with existing customers, by upconverting them to a premium product.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Crash Team Racing would cover the kart territory too. Wouldn't it, Sony?
Steve Youngblood
Member
I would love for this to be true. But I really doubt it.
I say the same about wipeout actually in reverse. Always liked games like F Zero X and Extreme G 2, Jet Moto and such far better for high speed racers. Wipeout for me was always the one that went too slow and failed to hold my interest, that goes for the originals and the PSP games. Curious about if the remaster on PS4 fixes this though
And_Gignac
Member
I would expect the CEO of a major company to have the hindsight of forecasting and preparing for hardware sales above average. The low stock they currently have is a MESS.
It did better in the U.K., unsurprisingly.
Ever play it long enough to get to Phantom class or higher? What about supersonic in Zone Mode?
theangrypirate
Member
PS4 back on top. That didn't take long. I Wonder if Nintendo will ever get it back.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
It was a playable demo in a multi million selling title with the strongest affinity of any PlayStation franchise. The reach and impact of that - and I'm mostly talking about new comers/prospects - can't be ignored. Naughty Dog made it a marketing tactic and the engagement time and reach alone was genius.
I'm still waiting for the receipts from the guy who said he guarantee crash sales had zero to do with it