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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]

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Hydrargyrus

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Any comment from Pachter? 'Yeah I have smoke too much day ago' or something of similar?

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Sesto

Banned
That is really depressing, I don't blame Sony for not caring anymore. Now it cements the idea that the ps tv is just trying to get rid of surplus from the JP launch last year.

Honestly it's not that bad for Vita measure. IIRC this should be Vita's second best month of the year. Take into consideration that there wasn't any AAA game release for Vita
However Sony should offer a Minecraft Vita Bundle for Black Friday/Christmas. This would at least keep it alive.
 
I bought the wiiu at launch and only have mh3u,smw3d, mario wiiu, and luigi dlc. The funny thing is all my buddies who bought into current gen bought a wiiu along side the ms/ps console.I really hope Nintendo can bring in some momentum coming forward. I want to get Mk8,bayo, and smash. They are low on my priority list though. Lords of the Fallen and Tales of Hearts R are coming soon.
 

Caio

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Sorry, who is Pachter ?
I tried to Google him but only pictures of clows were coming out...

Congraz Sony.
 

RexNovis

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That's insane.
There won't be any competition this gen. Sad. At least I would prefer closer numbers between PS4 and XBONE, just for the sake of a good old equitabe console war. But right now it is not a war, it is a slaughter...
Concerning WiiU I just hope they will reach a stage where they can be a little bit more healthy financially speacking.

But mass market is sad. Destiny, despite being far from critically acclaimed sells tons. Bayonetta 2 despite good reviews will probably bomb (it is not sure but highly probable).
Today a commercial success of a game depends so much of the size of the marketing campaign...

Competition is exactly why this gen is so one sided so far. One console provides significantly more value in the majority of consumers eyes so it sells more. If MS creates significant value for their platform things could change but I'm jot sure how's they'd do that at this point as much of the value is due to superior hardware which cannot be altered or improved upon.

I do agree that the influence of game marketing is both sickening and depressing these days. I'm often appalled by friends who say they won't buy a game because of its review scores or because they haven't seen it covered in their favorite gaming site (recently this happened when I recommended a friend check out Shadow of Mordor -_-). Hopefully with the advent of easy streaming things will change over the course of the gen. I imagine if becomes a lot harder to deceive in marketing when a gamer can fine into a random stream at literally any moment to check out the game in question. It really puts the power back I t he hands of the gamers in my opinion.
 
Man those are ridiculously good numbers for PS4. Sony is pulling ahead very quickly in such a short space of time and I don't see Microsoft reducing the gap this year. It'll be interesting to see November/December split. 2015 is going to be very interesting.
 

Radec

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I like the bold thing.

But mass market is sad. Destiny, despite being far from critically acclaimed sells tons. Bayonetta 2 despite good reviews will probably bomb (it is not sure but highly probable).
Today a commercial success of a game depends so much of the size of the marketing campaign...

You forgot to add that Bayonetta 2 is an exclusive and Destiny is in 4 platforms.

That changes everything.

Most people won't buy the WiiU just for Bayo 2. Sure they might like other WiiU exclusives but we won't know.
 

m@cross

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Microsoft's only hopes lie in Masterchief.

If the collection doesn't help I think it might be too late.

Sunset Overdrive is going to do "okay" but not sell systems. Which sucks, because I genuinely do enjoy Insomniac.

If someone was a big enough fanboy for rehashed Halo games to be the reason to buy an XB1, wouldn't they likely have already bought one by now?
 
If someone was a big enough fanboy for rehashed Halo games to be the reason to buy an XB1, wouldn't they likely have already bought one by now?


I think that's what Microsoft and everyone is going to find out.

I personally have no clue but I'm not going to underestimate Halo.
 
Competition is exactly why this gen is so one sided so far. One console provides significantly more value in the majority of consumers eyes so it sells more. If MS creates significant value for their platform things could change but I'm jot sure how's they'd do that at this point as much of the value is due to superior hardware which cannot be altered or improved upon.

I do agree that the influence of game marketing is both sickening and depressing these days. I'm often appalled by friends who say they won't buy a game because of its review scores or because they haven't seen it covered in their favorite gaming site (recently this happened when I recommended a friend check out Shadow of Mordor -_-). Hopefully with the advent of easy streaming things will change over the course of the gen. I imagine if becomes a lot harder to deceive in marketing when a gamer can fine into a random stream at literally any moment to check out the game in question. It really puts the power back I t he hands of the gamers in my opinion.

But the worst is that it isn't even about deceiving by marketing IMO. Marketing here is about gaining mindshare. Destiny is a thing because because there is huge ads everywhere, TV spots all the time. It is massive brainwashing and it even put the idea in a lot of heads that it was a PS4 exclusive.

Well, I guess that is how mass marketing works. Sorry for being off topic.
 
I the reasoning stems from preventing people taking GAF info and leaking it out so people feel better at leaking stuff to GAF since only members can be part of the FreeGAFsons.


The good majority of people who spread GAF leaks around the Internet are random lurkers.

Making GAF leaks a members-only affair through email tags would really cut down on the amount of sharing around the Internet.

You'd still have people sharing it...but it'd become very niche very quickly.


NPD has done some pretty nasty, brutal crackdowns in the past 5 years (RIP GameCrate.com)...we don't want to incur their wrath.
 
I personally have no clue but I'm not going to underestimate Halo.

Neither am I, but I'm starting to think that MCC is just going to be the Titanfall of November again.

Aka "game does ridiculously well, boost console sales notably, but not enough to beat the strong competition because those who wanted MCC already bought it during Titanfall/Destiny/etc."
 
I can't wait until we get digital sales in NPD numbers. It's hard to accurately compare gens and even game franchises correctly. I would imagine the destiny digital sales were much higher on PS4 than Xbox one but I can't prove it
 

Jinto

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If you don't like Nintendo games then a Wii U is pointless. I don't like how shallow a lot of their games are thematically, and the family-centric approach doesn't appeal to my personal tastes. The only game I'd personally enjoy on Wii U is Smash Bros.

So yeah. People complaining about lack of games are complaining about a lack of games that they want to play rather than literal numbers of games.

In your case, that's understandable. I was referring more to people who have enjoyed them in the past, and the ones who would enjoy them if only they gave the Wii U a chance.



XBOX ONE RULES, SONY SUCKS. WHO'S WITH ME.







Now I'm part of a healthy, rigorous discussion on the merits of the Wii U console. In October 2014, the Wii U only sold (QUOTE ME FOR NUMBERS) so it can be assumed that the Wii U is not going to recover because XYZ reasons reasons


That's unfortunate. Besides Smash, XYZ might be their best hope for any sort of recovery, as in Xenoblade, Yoshi, and Zelda. :/
 

Kikujiro

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Fifa is getting popular in the US because it's actually not a football game, the game is all about pacing, no midfield play, impossible to defend, 14-11 scores, not surprising it's more akin to the American audience who always found football too boring.
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt


The PS4 sucks and the Xbox One is obviously going to win the USA.





XBOX ONE RULES, SONY SUCKS. WHO'S WITH ME.







Now I'm part of a healthy, rigorous discussion on the merits of the Wii U console. In October 2014, the Wii U only sold (QUOTE ME FOR NUMBERS) so it can be assumed that the Wii U is not going to recover because XYZ reasons reasons


I would recommend not writing it out too much, your ???!???!!!! or all-caps postings are obvious enough. If you write it explicitly, the postings can still be found via Google.
 
I did mainly because I'm more interested in the games coming to Xbox One that won't be on the PS4 vs. the vice versa.

Isn't the first time I chose the weaker console that had more games I was interested in vs. same gen competition at the time I got it (e.g.: PS2).

MS needs to take the same route -- further differentiate even more in terms of games. At this point I think they need a new IP that could get really huge mainstream attention to have a chance at catching up in North America in anyway.

XBOX Live and system updates help but that won't be enough. A new IP could gain lots of attention but again that won't be enough. Sony has proven over the long haul they are more committed to supporting their hardware and have much better appeal worldwide. The PS4 could also bring back Japanese developers to the console and more importantly the gamers. The only way for the XBOX One to grab the attention away from the PS4 is a game changer at this point. Kinect proved that won't be in. If I were Microsoft I would drop the price to $299 but just how badly is the system actually selling compared to previous consoles in the past, not just the PS4?

Microsoft has been very quiet about overall hardware sales so that is not a good sign. If they haven't reached 8 million by the end of this year then something drastic has to occur. Drop to $299 and if that doesn't work start planning your next system to come out before the PS5.
 
If you are going to use email tags for leaks, can we at least keep it just for leaks?
The last few pages are unreadable with all the people posting "LOOK AT ME I KNOW EMAIL TAGS!", and frankly if I have to quote every member to see what (if any) discussion is being made it stifles the discourse.
 
If you are going to use email tags for leaks, can we at least keep it just for leaks?
The last few pages are unreadable with all the people posting "LOOK AT ME I KNOW EMAIL TAGS!", and frankly if I have to quote every member to see what (if any) discussion is being made it stifles the discourse.

That's the plan, yes.

We were just setting up the logistics.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Ms should get mark cerny to work on xbtwo because whoever designed xbone wore a suit and not a flannel.
 

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
hey now








Yes. There is a massive portion of people who just lurk GAF, look for leaks, and then leave.

They don't contribute to the community, they spread the leaks all around the Internet and raise GAF's notoriety, and they raise the chances of us getting into trouble with NPD.

With the email tag system, leak origins + leak reposts will be obfuscated for that massive portion of people, making it safer to leak stuff.


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Understood. Will do
 

freefornow

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If someone was a big enough fanboy for rehashed Halo games to be the reason to buy an XB1, wouldn't they likely have already bought one by now?
I'm expecting a "trade your 360" type deal to come into play prior to MCC release.

Something like $249-299 for XBO MCC bundle.
Might move a few consoles. Maybe.
 
It's all about Holiday I guess... like the 1st 10 months of the year don't matter or something.


I wonder what will the MS PR statement will say if they DON'T win the Holiday months.
 

phanphare

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hey now








Yes. There is a massive portion of people who just lurk GAF, look for leaks, and then leave.

They don't contribute to the community, they spread the leaks all around the Internet and raise GAF's notoriety, and they raise the chances of us getting into trouble with NPD.

With the email tag system, leak origins + leak reposts will be obfuscated for that massive portion of people, making it safer to leak stuff.


(PLEASE QUOTE THIS POST)






thank you as well for all your work
 
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