Chained Prometheus
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God, I wish Obama were still president. 
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Obama Weighs in on ACA repeal
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TumblingHippo
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Sometimes I wish he'd just go help another country instead, and move on from the US, but I suppose that'd be worse for us.
Nah, they will keep playing politics until we have some dead people on the public conscious. I mean it too, it is going to require a pile of dead Americans who recently can't access the system for them to do something about it. Even that is a big if. That's a damn shame too, and a disgrace.
God, I wish Obama were still president.
Agreed. Hell, I'll even take good ol' Bush Jr. at this point. This country has lost its damned mind ever since they put a black man as its President years ago.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
God, I wish Obama were still president.
I wish I had a time machine to go back to November the 7th and warn every single moron that didn't vote what would result in our world because of their inaction. Then, if they didn't believe me, I would show them every single story that came out after Trump became president. And yet.......
Pilgrimzero
Member
A bunch of dead kids couldn't budge them on gun control.
Some dead cancer etc patients won't make a difference.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
Sandy Hook pretty much tore my soul asunder. And the fact republicans were twiddling their thumbs made me hate them even more.
SolidSnakex
Member
He kinda did as he backed Macron, which apparently was a big deal as Obama is well liked in France.
BrutishMrFish
Member
Republicans aren't going to listen to this. Only Democrats will, and the ones that do will make it that much easier for the GOP to screw millions over. Criticizing the AHCA is one thing, but acting like Democrats should be the ones to listen when the other side's policy is beyond redemption is absolutely ridiculous. There is nothing the Democrats could do to make the AHCA an improvement over the ACA, and compromising with the Republicans will make it that much harder for the Democrats to stand against it in the future.
There comes a point where being the voice of reason is less honorable than admitting the cold hard truth, and Obama has passed that point.
There comes a point where being the voice of reason is less honorable than admitting the cold hard truth, and Obama has passed that point.
This country is never going to give up "perceived" control over gun rights. Everything else is fair play legislatively though. I'm positive at some point in my lifetime, we will see universal healthcare in this country. But I can bet on the same hand that for some inexplicable reason we will never have federal background checks on guns or some other reasonable barrier to entry.
This is not really directed at republicans, but at voters with republican senators who also like their healthcare, to get them to bitch out congress into not passing this turd.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
War for survival of us people living in the US. Fuck reaching across the aisle. Republican fuckbuckets would probably have a bear trap open for that hand anyways.
He really just doesn't understand that the GOP really is just straight evil. You can't find common ground with evil. They're in it for themselves and the pockets of their friends and fuck everyone else that isn't white, christian and makes more than six figures.
I do love him and his optimism and sincerely miss that. I also miss a head of state able to put a coherent thought together. Nice.
I do love him and his optimism and sincerely miss that. I also miss a head of state able to put a coherent thought together. Nice.
how is a call for bipartisanship reasonable with republicans in charge of government? it seems like the height of delusion to me
Raven117
Gold Member
Look, I like Obama to...you know...someone who actually has the intelligence to grasp the situation...but do remember....Obama gave us quite possibly the most damaging single quote against bi-partisianship in the last decade.
Don't get me wrong, there have been plenty of bad quotes before and since...but this one...this one hit like a wrecking ball and and semblance of unity for the rest of his presidency went right out the window....
republicans didn't obstruct everything obama tried to do because he said this, and it's not how he tried to govern anyway
i would have liked him a lot better if he'd taken a hard line against conservatism, but after he tried to sell out entitlements and was hilariously blocked by the freedom caucus nutjobs i came to realize that fiscally he's in tune with center-right republicans so we couldn't really expect better
Raven117
Gold Member
Just said it was the single most damaging quote. And in those early years, yeah...it kind of was. I think things would be much different now if the Obama we got towards the end of his presidency was the one who started it. (But thats not saying all that much).
You are right....hilariously right. (no pun). I tried many times to explain this to my Republican friends...that overall...Obama was not a screetching left liberal, but it fell on deaf ears.
randomengine
Banned
The transition from Obama to Trump is the greatest argument against term limits I have ever seen.
BossDarkseid
Member
True.
Misplaced might give the wrong impression, but I feel like Obama had more faith in the Republicans not being such shitstains of politicians, than the Republicans did themselves.
Maybe delusional, but the righteous approach. I mean surely, a constitutional scholar believes in bipartisanship because he would understand our constitution is built on the idea that both sides can come to a compromise for the good of the people. Admittedly, that's far removed from our political climate and I don't see that changing anytime soon without a major crisis. Still, in my view, it's never wrong to try to stay a voice of reason when you aren't in the middle of everything like a sitting president would be.
Evening Musuko
Black Korea
I don't think it's Democrats or Republicans.
It's the Independent/Moderate voters who think everything can be solved if we all just hold hands and sing kumbayah. We may roll our eyes at it but the general public eats it up.
God, I wish Obama were still president.
I just love how congress allowed to have presidential limits but failed to limit themselves.
Little late for this Obama, maybe should have said something when the House bill was revealed for the disaster that it was. Also he's starting off with that both sides need to work together and I just can't even with him anymore. Politics are divided and both sides should realize it's impossible going forward to work together because it's 100% a losing move for progressives. I feel this was a sly nod to dems to court moderate republicans. If this is all he has to offer Obama can officially stay retired.
That's because most of them can't. They vote for someone with a 4th grade reading level, who is like them.
but how is compromise with reactionary fascists a righteous approach? literally nothing about the AHCA is good, it is entirely about hurting poor people and giving their money to the ultra-rich. compromise with the right has only ever resulted in electoral losses and the democratic party becoming more and more conservative, it's not in any sense the right thing to do.
Raven117
Gold Member
You think Congress wrote that do you?
BrutishMrFish
Member
Obama isn't the only Democratic politician who buys that shit. Plenty of them have said things like, "I like and respect *some random Republican*, we just have minor disagreements on things!" And others said how nice Jeff Sessions was to them or how he was their workout buddy.
The last Republican to really defend a Democrat was John McCain, and it was only because people were being too obviously racist to Obama.
i don't understand why people think this mentality is sweetly naive rather than insanely dangerous and stupid. the effects of democrats trying to placate the right got us into this mess to begin with.
Alcotholic
Banned
The ACA is very flawed, but it doesnt mean that we should repeal it. We need to push amendments that make it better for everyone.
Raven117
Gold Member
Ha actually fair. You are correct.
I just meant that the Constitutional Congress didn't write term limits for anyone, and it was only when FDR broke with tradition set by George Washington did they then ratify an Amendment.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Again, I'm just reminded of how badly you Americans fucked up last year. Holy shit, how the fuck did you hand over all power to a bunch of people who don't give a shit about you and only have their own best interests in mind? Astonishing.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
Blame the ignorant, hateful racists, not me. I voted for Democrat.
His biggest flaw is he believes people are at their core are good and will do the right thing given the chance.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I read that in his voice. It's uncanny how I could coincide the beats of this written statement to how he spoke to the public. Every comma, I imagined him looking in a direction. Every period, I saw him taking a pause or looking down at his notes.
Seriously, watch one of his past speeches. It's almost unnerving.
Oh yea, and he's right.
Seriously, watch one of his past speeches. It's almost unnerving.
Oh yea, and he's right.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Obama is going to have to understand that these are different political times and the GOP don't give a fuck. They will do whatever it takes to make the rich richer and stay in power no matter how many people are negatively effected.
They'll lie, cheat, and steal to blame everyone else. And they do it damn effectively.
They'll lie, cheat, and steal to blame everyone else. And they do it damn effectively.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
How firm is the constitution on the word "Consecutive"? Gotta be some wriggle room in there, right?
(I was never his biggest fan but I recognize his skills)
(I was never his biggest fan but I recognize his skills)
Saint Gregory
Member
Sad to see Obama waste his time like this. While the front the Republicans are using to get support from their base may be destroying Obama's legacy all they really see are the dollar signs floating in front of them repealing this law will bring to their super rich puppetmasters in the form of tax breaks. They never gave two fucks about who lives or dies as long as it doesn't cost the rich money.
Monocle
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Sadly he is black, so racist shitheels all across America will be deaf to his eloquent appeal.
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