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Official Jan 2008 NPD Thread - HW Shortages + Spectacular SW
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Promising PS3 vs 360 data recently from the UK, Australia and the US, the three only real 360 strongholds. What's especially promising for the PS3 is that this is happening before the storm of high profile exclusive PS3 sequels lined-up for 2008.
So far Sony mainly introduced experimental new franchises onto the market, some were very successful and some weren't.
To me it seems the 360 will run into issues this year (overall should still be OK, but the PS3 is surely expected to win christmas globally), as the bulk of XBox users have already upgraded to a 360 due to a total lack of support for the original XBox for over two years.
Good PS2 figures as well!
So far Sony mainly introduced experimental new franchises onto the market, some were very successful and some weren't.
To me it seems the 360 will run into issues this year (overall should still be OK, but the PS3 is surely expected to win christmas globally), as the bulk of XBox users have already upgraded to a 360 due to a total lack of support for the original XBox for over two years.
Good PS2 figures as well!
Liabe Brave
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Not true, either. This is from the banned numberz site; sonycowboy will have the real number tomorrow.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
squatingyeti
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kurosawa said:
It's apparently as real as their console cost breakdowns. Their numbers just don't work out. By the way, careful bluheim might stalk you if you catch on to his posting when he doesn't know what he's talking about. Your best bet is to leave now.
bluheim, I have plenty of friends and admirers. While this is cute, maybe you should just understand more what you're talking about before posting.
polyh3dron
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Panic? Heck, no! Take action? You could bet your house that they should. America is the only territory where they are ahead, with the opportunity of remaining ahead of PS3. You don't want to mis-step in such a territory.Pristine_Condition said:
:lol :lol :lol Pretty please, I've always defended 360 as a great game machine and I still think it is the best for an hardcore gamer, as of today, but if Blu-Ray really becomes relevant, for future hardware sales an add-on would be totally insignificant.
Liabe Brave
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Notice that this is NOT what iSuppli said. This is what Botticus claims iSuppli said, but he's wrong. I explained it in that thread already, but here it is again.squatingyeti said:
Notice the Wii graph. Notice the Wii graph DECREASE. Notice how that would be decreasing LTD.
Liabe Brave said:
Kamakazie!
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Yeah, it should have been on the PC. It would have sold much better!Grecco said:
Still no confirmation of the NMH numbers? Anything 50k+ would be amazing but if it could pull off something close to 100k that would be fantastic.
squatingyeti
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Liabe Brave said:
ACTUALLY, it IS a chart CREATED by iSuppli, maybe you should go back and read the original article that includes the chart.
bluheim is just being ridiculous like always:
squatingyeti said:
bluheim said:
As you can see, he quoted me talking about sales from 2007 NOT being less than 2006. Threw in something about PS3 sales in Europe, no fucking sense at all.
shepherd said:
bluheim said:
Here, bluheim argues the CONFIRMED numbers for US+Japan sales are apparently not true. Saying someone citing the numbers from NPD+Media Create is wrong. Shocking, I know.
This is my response to his above questioning of the NPD+Media Create numbers. He somehow thinks they were just made upsquatingyeti said:
bluheim said:
He responds to me with the above. WTF? We've been SPECIFICALLY talking about US+JAPAN. I'm not sure what saying those numbers can be confirmed, has anything to do with 2M in Europe...
Ok, I'm done now. Like I said, it's been cute, what you following me around and whatnot bluheim, desperately trying to interject with stupidity, but I'm happily married.
TheGreatDave
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I do hope NMH has reasonable numbers. Anything close to 100k is fantastic, 75k+ added to the Euro sales should make it successful in it's own way.
Michirou_53
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Lobster said:
Nakayama, president of MMV confirms NMH numbers in his blog.
100k + (sell through) in US, 160k pre-orders in Europe.
http://www.mmv.co.jp/message/president.php
edit: uh, it's NMH, not NHM. I bought one of 40k copies. Sorry rest of the world.
_Alkaline_
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Michirou_53 said:
Holy shit! :O
Unless the president got his numbers from that godforsaken site as well. :lol
Rapping Granny
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summary on this thread please.
_Alkaline_
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Rapping Granny said:
Kamakazie!
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Michirou_53 said:
160k pre-orders? Fucking epic (one of those is mine). Europe wins again. It is about time Nintendo started treating Europe properly, what with the support we are giving its platforms.
Diatribe1974
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These threads are always entertaining. Someone ends up looking like a fool.
Stormbringer
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Michirou_53 said:
Other figures - > Japan shipments : 40K . Worldwide target : 500K
That would be awesome.
@squatingyeti : You could argue all day long, this will never change the fact that you said the PS3 will outsell the 360 by only 1 millions in 2008, 2 millions in 2009 and 3 millions in 2010. And that'll never change the fact that those three years will be very painful when reality finally catch you.
Is another potential reason for the high PS3 hardware number due to the announcement that the 80gb has ceased production? When the 60gb was announced to be discontinued in Europe, the race was on for everyone to get one before they sold out. It's a great hardware figure for January either way, nothing to be sniffed at whether the other consoles had shortages or not.
bluheim said:
It's been looked at differently this time. MS did a simultaneous launch of the 360. Nintendo did a simultaneous launch of the Wii. MS have ensured pretty much all first party 360 games come to Europe at the same time (or near enough) they come to the US. But unfortunately, Sony delayed their Euro launch of PS3, they delay PSN releases and Nintendo delay first party releases and MS took ages to launch Video Marketplace (and even now it's sucky).
Kill Your Masters
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So basically, treat Europe as shit, and you win.pswii60 said:
Hellraizer said:
Except the launch delay which was unavoidable Sony has been treating us great. Some games are even releasing earlier than the US. As for the PSN games it's not as bad as pswii60 makes it look like. We're talking about just a few days delays here. Microsoft is great at that too. Nintendo on the other hand keeps screwing us with delays over and over again.
Hellraizer said:
Well, Sony looked after Europe well last-gen with a lot of Euro-centric content, like a gazillion Singstar SKUs for each nationality. What you release seems to be more important than when you release it.
Riddick said:
Are you fucking kidding me? We only got Everyday Shooter THIS WEEK - like 6 months after the release of the US version. We still haven't got Puzzle Fighter HD. We still haven't got PAIN. We still haven't got High Velocity Bowling.
Kill Your Masters
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I dont know about other countries, but Sony first party titles in Germany cost around 65-70 (about 100$)Riddick said:
Looks like it. Still, we in europe get treated the worst, but they all claim we are so important to them (all three). In the end, we pay more so they can make big price cuts in japan...
M_A_C
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Das-J said:So I dropped by my local Best Buy on the way home just to check on their stock. Here is what I found:
Not a single 360 in the entire store:
5 PS3's (All 40GB units)
There wasn't a single Wii either but that comes as no surprise. Anyway, from my small sample of 1 out of 100,000+ Best Buy stores it appears that the supply constraints are indeed real, even if their impact remains in question.
Anyway, what I found most interesting was this:
I had no idea they were already shipping standalone peripherals for RB... pretty cool!
Now take your time machine back to January and give us some relevant information.
Tieno
Member
Sony has done a fair job with pricing on PSN (not always 1 to 1) plus region-free games is nice (though I doubt it makes a significant impact) and saves me a ton of money. The delays of PSN games are annoying. Probably not going to bother anymore with Everyday Shooter.pswii60 said:
Il Comodino
sorry about his english
M_A_C said:
:lol :lol :lol