Wait your previous reply said that they think its not what customers want so there making them longer? How can there be an "incentive" if there not even aware there wrong about it? Which was my point.
Well, yeah. But even a short game with 5-10 hour of content can sell well if it emphasizes mechanics over story, that's more or less the whole formula behind roguelikes.
All the incentives are there for these companies to learn why expensive projects fail to meet projections. They do data analysis and market research on all their products.
The market doesn't lie. The best selling games every years have been 30+ hour epics. That wasn't the case 15 years ago.
Roguelites are long games though. They promise dozens, if not hundreds, of hours of content.
Technically a run of a roguelite can last as little as half an hour. They're just designed to be highly replayable, and any formula good enough is highly replayable by default. For similar reasons boomer shooters can also live well beyond their normal playtime, despite usually having 10 hour campaigns.
Every company needs B-players, people that will just get the work done. You do not want 10 Kojimas on your team.
I think Morrowind handled open world exploration very well. You got directions that were not always clear but that would cause you to explore. Sometimes you ended up somewhere you shouldn't be, and you paid for it. There was danger and reward.
Woman character?Got inspired by this post:
Community - Hype - Dragon Age: The Veilguard Early Preview Thread
DA is more technically advanced. The lip sync is just as good in this game. But I get it, there is an anti-woke hate boner for this game AFAIC, woke stuff doesn't influence my opinion, the game simply looks like a generic bloomfest from 2015, period. There's literally nothing to like about...www.neogaf.com
@Hugare rightfully mentioned how lazy and uninspired color-coded enemies are. In the world of uninspired game design and the same mechanics since 2005 just coated in different pain we post our ideas here for meaningful change in game design. I will start:
1. End with corridor design and walk-action-walk BS: once again we are helped by the newest Dragon Age trailer where we have the illusion of a busting city, however every nook and cranny, every alley not relevant to our heroes is blocked off and inaccessible. The only solution is to continue to advance forward and listen to some stupid banter.
What to do? More verticality, lower horizontal map coverage - SCALE THE FUCK DOWN
Who does it well? ACII (fuck, can't believe I'm saying this), Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077
2. Give the characters some spine: enough with PG-rated dialogue that makes everyone sound the same. Give them some emotions - am I playing a merry band of undercover stoics? Remember that time when Dak'kon realized the Nameless One invented his whole religion? Good stuff.
Who does it well? I wanted to say Witcher 3, but the best example is Cyberpunk 2077 - V. banter with Johnny Silverhand is exactly what I am looking for.
3. Less systems, better developed ones: Listen, I don't need ten different advancement trees in my games, I want 3 that will radically change how I play the game and effect I have on the world. Does that +1 to a random attribute have any impact on how I play? Are the skills lazy +X% to damage or give you new abilities?
Who does it well? Cyberpunk 2077, but they needed 2.0 patch and complete overhaul to get this right.
What are yours?
When I say "long games" I mean how many hours a buyer thinks they'll spend with a game before getting bored.
I mean, by that metric they never were competive at any point. And what people mean by shorter games is to not bloat them unnecessarily.
No, short games were much more popular/successful in the 80s, 90s and 00s.
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So. They also make dumb ass decisions that cost them dearly based on that same research.
Thats a catch phrase that completely ignores there "ability to read" the market.
in this moment, media creators' single greatest fear, beyond all others, is the fear of being offensive, of being 'hurtful'. it's what killed the edge in insomniac games, among others. to the point where my neighbors in animal crossing: wild world are more 'alive' than the totally interchangeable crew of bantering plug-ins that now populate gaming...
https://www.jvgs.net/acwwblog/review/#:~:text=The dialogue is one of,ll find in New Leaf.The dialogue is one of the highlights of Wild World: It’s interesting and unpredictable. Villagers will bring up some odd topics, and they can be bizarre and genuinely funny. These aren’t the bland personalities you’ll find in New Leaf. Messages posted to the bulletin board are also quite entertaining. And unlike the newer games in the series, these villagers don’t hold back. They can be quite rude and insulting at times, perhaps even more so than in the original game...
They still have much better track records than literally anyone else in the universe.
Maybe, but again, nobody reads the market better than these companies.
Again, no one wants to make longer games. They all do it because the extra effort & cost yields better results.
