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[FranXico]

being $100 more expensive than the competitor offering the same general experience is what hurt MS this gen (well in north america)

At launch, it was offering an inferior experience in pretty much every way.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

People also ignoring this quote - 'According to our tipster, Microsoft will make the camera a huge priority, while the Prospero kit uses older camera technology'
They both will have a camera.

EDIT :

Update :

Updated October 2, 2019 1:10 p.m. EDT

Comment added on tipster’s claims about Microsoft’s camera development. A Microsoft spokesman denied any camera technology is in development and that none has been delivered to developers in any form.

 

[deriks]

I also believe that Kinect 3 will be a thing, but not shoved in people's throat. And I dare to say that Mixer will be greater than ever, but not that great as Twitch - Sony and Nintendo will do with Twitch.

 

[joe_zazen]

Good God that looks atrocious.

Every car a jellybean, every console a boring black box...ahhh mass consumer tastes.

I like the design because it looks functional as fuck, which means maximum power with minimum noise.

 

[CrustyBritches]

I thought the main purpose of the 'V' was for stacking dev kits while maintaining air flow? At least on the Xbox side, I expect another Xbox One X looking thing.

I'm still not buying the idea that they'll have forced pack-in cameras...because streaming? They can sell it separately no need to force it. Too many people will have Kinect flashbacks and freak out.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Neither console will ship with a camera, especially the next Xbox. Gizmodo doesn’t know shit.

 

[joe_zazen]

EDIT :

Update :

Cameras are there and always on, this is why no leakers, lol. Probably have electronic collars on devs too.

 

[bitbydeath]

EDIT :

Update :

Where’d you get that update from? Is there a new article somewhere?

I don’t see it on the original?

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Article is probably wrong about camera, but, nevertheless, this quote from Gizmodo journalist is another thing :

Unfortunately, it's too vague. For example, I read the tipster's comment as suggesting the Sony device would do lots of real-time ray tracing from occlusion to shadows to full bounce reflections and the Microsoft device would rely on tricks to emulate ray tracing. But another colleague read the exact same comment and interpreted it as how ray tracing might appear in titles re-released for the new system. Game devs I passed it along too all had opinions that ranged the gamut from mine to my colleagues'. So until we get a little more detail I'm afraid it's all hearsay.

Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT6| - Mostly Fan Noise and Hot Air

MS has a pretty long history of stepping on the same rake multiple times. What are you even talking about? Both systems will support cameras. We know that. An insider says the Xbox camera is more advanced and considered a "huge priority". It's not unreasonable to believe MS are more likely to...

www.resetera.com

Maybe Sony will have better RT tech, who knows.

Where’d you get that update from? Is there a new article somewhere?

I don’t see it on the original?

Scroll down a bit

 

[FranXico]

Where’d you get that update from? Is there a new article somewhere?

I don’t see it on the original?

Yeah, I also don't see that there. Strange that a spokesperson would outright deny the camera elsewhere, after their initial stance:

Microsoft and AMD declined to comment. Sony did not respond to requests for comment.

 

[vpance]

The article writer posted on Ree guys.

Sounds like PS5 is doing RT in a more brute way and Scarlett is doing it like RTX?

 

[Mass Shift]

EDIT :

Update :

Comment added on tipster’s claims about Microsoft’s camera development. A Microsoft spokesman denied any camera technology is in development and that none has been delivered to developers in any form.

So basically........

 

[FrostyJ93]

Its jsut an accessory for serious game streamers. Chill people

 

[bitbydeath]

Scroll down a bit

It only states they declined to comment and then an endless barrel of ads?

 

[DeepEnigma]

EDIT :

Update :

I thought MS does not comment on speculation or rumors... unless they want to get ahead of the 2013 hysteria.

 

[McHuj]

Article is probably wrong about camera, but, nevertheless, this quote from Gizmodo journalist is another thing :

Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT6| - Mostly Fan Noise and Hot Air

MS has a pretty long history of stepping on the same rake multiple times. What are you even talking about? Both systems will support cameras. We know that. An insider says the Xbox camera is more advanced and considered a "huge priority". It's not unreasonable to believe MS are more likely to...

www.resetera.com

Maybe Sony will have better RT tech, who knows.



Scroll down a bit

Its annoying that they won't print the quote to let the readers decide for themselves. I hate this "we're not going to print it, we'll talk about it" If you're not going to print it, don't mention it.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

As long as it's an add-on and not a bundled in gadget bumping the price up $100.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

It only states they declined to comment and then an endless barrel of ads?

Just checked it. Somehow they removed that. It was just below this last sentence :

Microsoft and AMD declined to comment. Sony did not respond to requests for comment.

Anyway, it was there :

 

[Mass Shift]

I thought MS does not comment on speculation or rumors... unless they want to get ahead of the 2013 hysteria.

I would think that is EXACTLY why they would want to kill any speculation that haters would gladly spin into another negative narrative.

 

[bitbydeath]

Just checked it. Somehow they removed that. It was just below this last sentence :



Anyway, it was there :

Thanks, added to the OP.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Thanks, added to the OP.

No, no. Wait, it still there. This is somehow different link, but the same article. LOL

A Story About Two Tiny, Fuzzy Photos of a 'PlayStation 5 Prototype' [Updated]

We come from the future.

gizmodo.com

Update is just down below.

Btw. click on the link in your post and you'll notice the differencel. LOL

 

[FranXico]

No, no. Wait, it still there. This is somehow different link, but the same article. LOL

A Story About Two Tiny, Fuzzy Photos of a 'PlayStation 5 Prototype' [Updated]

We come from the future.

gizmodo.com

Update is just down below.

Btw. click on the link in your post and you'll notice the differencel. LOL

Yes, now I see it too. With the quoted link I can.
There's something going on with the links above.

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

“Their source also states that both systems will have "greatest compute jump in any console".
Dear God please let this be true.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Camera again, you say? Have you heard the definition of insanity?

Also, its clear that the box is a dev kit, it can't be a retail, final consumer console.

They both have one. It’s for streaming, not Kinect.

 

[bitbydeath]

They both have one. It’s for streaming, not Kinect.

Or even for VR testing.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

So Sony is developing the PCengine 3?

Somehow I

I get some PC engine vibes from it.

 

[JoeyWestSide]

I don't think the camera will be that much of a priority because Xbox already has 3rd party accessory support and they made it a point to get rid of the kinect. Not saying it won't be back but they are even removing cortana from headohone mic commands. I don't see this happening.

 

[TLZ]

Just checked it. Somehow they removed that. It was just below this last sentence :



Anyway, it was there :

So it's all bs eh. Good. I don't want a built-in camera watching me.

 

[Quasicat]

I held off on buying an Xbox One at launch because of the Kinect camera. I will do the same if the systems require the camera to be connected.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So Sony is developing the PCengine 3?

Somehow I

I get some PC engine vibes from it.

PV Engine!

 

[it_wasn't_me]

After all, there will be cameras :

Also, of course they have cameras.

Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT6| - Mostly Fan Noise and Hot Air

Wow. You went from logical poster to complete bullshit.

www.resetera.com

You know Matt, i presume.

 

[DS_Joost]

Can we please just all fuck off with the goddamn cameras? Pretty please?

The only camera I've ever loved on a console was the Game Boy camera. The rest can piss off in my opinion...

 

[Kazza]

It reminds me of a portable electric heater.

That's probably not a coincidence. After all, the design of an electric heater is meant to dissipate heat to the rest of the room as efficiently as possible. Powerful consoles need to do the same.

Every car a jellybean, every console a boring black box...ahhh mass consumer tastes.

I like the design because it looks functional as fuck, which means maximum power with minimum noise.

I'm with you on this one. This looks like a genuinely unique (and functional) design. Anything but another black box, please Sony...

 

[mckmas8808]

No way MS makes the same mistake twice.