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[BbMajor7th]

^ Hi-Fi didn't sell. Plain and simple.

A new IP with no marketing that you give away free with a subscription service will have that problem... plain and simple.

 

[kyussman]

Where is that picture of all the Xbox studios so proudly thrown around after the aqusition frenzy they went on......time to start putting red crosses over the dead studios,lol

 

[Bradamante3D]

“In our data, Game Pass spending really had its big growth period in late 2019 through early 2021 and has since settled,” Piscatella said. “Purchasing games and add-on content as well as free-to-play models are still the vastly preferred method of getting to video games by US consumers, at least for now.”

So I guess video game players are smarter than expected. They are chosing the two most honest, clearly communicated purchase models that we currently have. You either buy a 70$ game and 30$ add-on content, where the gameplay curve is less scewed towards small Dopamin hits and soft-forced micro purchases. Or, on the opposite of the spectrum, they are chosing free to play trash, where all of the above happens - but at least you as a consumer know what you are getting into. Everything else in between though, i.e. insert-company-name-here-Pass, doesn't work.

 

[SJRB]

The firings will continue until output improves.

 

[AyraSutoraifu]

"Xbox will be bigger than PlayStation"

 

[gow3isben]

This is exactly what Lina Khan was trying to save us from.

God bless that knight in shining armor who got vanquished by the dragon while you all were cheering

 

[Johnny Concrete]

Gamepass did more damage than Kinect in the end. Shame, because it’s a neat concept.

The majority of gamers under 25 these days don’t care about having access to 100 games, they just want Fortnite bucks and DUDE WEED 420 skins in CoD.

I wish the gamepass PC app wasn’t such utter trash, another unforced error from the people who make the goddamn OS.

And the majority of 30+ gamers have no interest in 100+ games because they don’t have time to play them.

So basically Gamepass has a very narrow target audience of gamers that have a good income, but not a family yet.

 

[gow3isben]

Ninja Theory is about to get cratered.

Like Tango their charismatic leader is gone.

They have spent all this time and Money anad years on a 7 hour game that won't sell for shit.

No two ways about it.

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

WTF is going on with MS these days

These days? This shitstorm is going on for years....

 

[Cyberpunkd]

And the majority of 30+ gamers have no interest in 100+ games because they don’t have time to play them.

I cannot believe all the execs are so clueless regarding that, then again I’m sure their wives do not work most of the time.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Jill Braff, head of ZeniMax studios, said in the town hall that she hoped the reorganization would allow the division, which also develops Fallout and Doom, to put more focus on fewer projects. “It’s hard to support nine studios all across the world with a lean central team with an ever-growing plate of things to do,” she said, according to audio of the meeting reviewed by Bloomberg.

“I think we were about to topple over,” she added.

Spread so thin, yet you fought to buy Activision/Blizzard after already buying all of Bethesda.

Fuck off

 

[DavidGzz]

A new IP with no marketing that you give away free with a subscription service will have that problem... plain and simple.

It probably sucked on the engagement aspect as well. It just wasn't a gamers game. It was niche AF.

 

[Roman Empire]

Behold, the Netflix of gaming!

 

[BbMajor7th]

It probably sucked on the engagement aspect as well. It just wasn't a gamers game. It was niche AF.

 

[Neolombax]

Xbox fans, u people better purchase Hellblade 2, or Ninja Theory could really be the next to go.

 

[FeralEcho]

Was it hotter before or after?

It was burning in both instances only before it was just inside the house,now everyone can see the flames.
That's what happens to flames when there's too much oxygen from engagement

 

[ArcaneNLSC]

This kind of sums up Xbox's last 2 gens with bad news

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Whoever is taking this extra time to fire more people should be fired. Obviously not efficient enough.

 

[Flabagast]

Xbox fans, u people better purchase Hellblade 2, or Ninja Theory could really be the next to go.

They wont, because they dont use their brain.

They will play it with their dumb $10 gamepass sub

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

Don't put COD on GP day-1 give 1-year subscribers a discount, and release the game on the service after 1 year.

 

[nani17]

These days? This shitstorm is going on for years....

You're not wrong

 

[YeulEmeralda]

 

[Evil Calvin]

Funny that out of the 30 studious....the only ones that actually released games get shuttered. The other 25+ are just cashing paychecks and not releasing shit.

Oh.....Phillip.....if you actually RELEASE new games, then GamePass subscribers would likely increase...........

 

[MALpractice311]

And the majority of 30+ gamers have no interest in 100+ games because they don’t have time to play them.

So basically Gamepass has a very narrow target audience of gamers that have a good income, but not a family yet.

Bingo. Gamepass sounds interesting, but as a 41 year old with a wife and a baby, I can barely finish one single player game per month between my responsibilities and my other hobbies of weight lifting, hiking, SUPing, and cycling. Hell, I'm still working on my Christmas and birthday haul, which included Spider Man 2, Lords of the Fallen, Lies of P, and Dead Space. I was hoping to have it all done before the Elden Ring DLC, bu I don't see that happening any time soon.

 

[skyfinch]

Damn, y'all acting so surprised. They been cutting stuff since day one. They cut tracks and features in Forza and they cut graphics and fun from Halo. They also cut really deep into the hearts of Xbox fans. So enough with threads like this, and cut it out.

 

[Skifi28]

Damn, y'all acting so surprised. They been cutting stuff since day one. They cut tracks and features in Forza and they cut graphics and fun from Halo. They also cut really deep into the hearts of Xbox fans. So enough with threads like this, and cut it out.

Reported so a mod can cut down your posting.

 

[rapid32.5]

Didn’t just Ninja Theory‘s founder left the studio after Mikami left Tango? Red flag for sure. MS is killing all the talent they might have had for some success.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Damn, y'all acting so surprised. They been cutting stuff since day one. They cut tracks and features in Forza and they cut graphics and fun from Halo. They also cut really deep into the hearts of Xbox fans. So enough with threads like this, and cut it out.

Likely due to having to have feature parity with the XS. That is likely why they are fast tracking a new console....so they don't have to go through that again

 

[AncientOrigin]

Gamepass was a mistake

It absolutely was! Also to release games same time on pc. There is no reason anymore to buy your consoles and also your games

 

[SneakersSO]

^ Hi-Fi didn't sell. Plain and simple. Are they closing Turn 10? Exactly.

That may not be as far off as you think.

 

[SneakersSO]

Likely due to having to have feature parity with the XS. That is likely why they are fast tracking a new console....so they don't have to go through that again

Except the current plan that hasn't gotten final approval involves yet another bespoke console 'platform', one being a hybrid Steam Deck-like device, and another that is a highly expensive, extremely niche market home console whose price tag may actually feature a comma in it.

 

[AncientOrigin]

Also the main workers from Tango will start another new studio and will land with Sony mark my words like The metal gear devs

 

[mayham2199]

whose price tag may actually feature a comma in it.

I hope this happens. Just to see how quickly it crashes and burns.

 

[Spank_Magnet]

Didn’t just Ninja Theory‘s founder left the studio after Mikami left Tango? Red flag for sure. MS is killing all the talent they might have had for some success.

From what I have been told he actually left a while ago but it’s only just been made public recently. I believe the other remaining founder also left an while ago but I’m not sure if that’s ever been made public.

 

[KyoZz]

Before its closure, Arkane had been looking to return to its roots by pitching a new single-player “immersive sim” game, such as a new entry in the Dishonored series, according to the people familiar.

Fuuuuuuuuuuck this is so depressing I love Dishonored

 

[Heisenberg007]

Funny that out of the 30 studious....the only ones that actually released games get shuttered. The other 25+ are just cashing paychecks and not releasing shit.

Oh.....Phillip.....if you actually RELEASE new games, then GamePass subscribers would likely increase...........

This here is the key point to understand. I haven't seen anybody talk about that.

Xbox is scaling back its game development.

That's why they are shutting down studios that were just about to start new projects (Tango, Arkane). And that's why they left those studios alone that have games in development (Ninja Theory, Compulsion, Machine Games, The Initiative, etc.).

All those studios will be at risk, and will likely get shut down, soon after they release their games and complete the PS5 ports. Most of them will be closed before they could start their next project.

 

[Nicktendo86]

I’ve said it before and I will say it again, Microsoft has become a cancer on this industry. Such a shame, they came in bringing so many innovations.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

I’ve said it before and I will say it again, Microsoft has become a cancer on this industry. Such a shame, they came in bringing so many innovations.

The OG to the first 5-6 years of 360 was awesome in my opinion. So much potential wasted after that. Xbox could be such a brilliant console experience in the right hands.

 

[BlackTron]

Honestly, it's a shame people didn't support some of these smaller Xbox games (Pentiment, Hi-Fi Rush, As Dusk Falls, Psychonauts 2, etc.) over the last 3 years, or a sub service full of indies and experimental titles. I think they were trying to turn towards AA, but few consumers followed. GP would have been that safety net, but everyone on here just shit on them for not having AAA games. Shame.

You can't get by on only small games. Be realistic. And these games aren't worth so much you want a whole subscription or game console to access it. They're fillers.

I think it's a "shame" that Microsoft failed to read the market, not that so many people "didn't give Pentiment a chance" or whatever

 

[Solidus_T]

I can't imagine working for an MS studio right now. You're basically under the constant threat of being laid off while you hear constant reports of the share price increasing and exec/shareholder bonuses.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Xbox fans, u people better purchase Hellblade 2, or Ninja Theory could really be the next to go.

I am. I would have bought the physical copy if they had released one. I don’t like subscription gaming.

 

[nush]

I think the actual fundamental problem with Microsoft is that they have made a name for themselves with productivity software (Boring ass business, OS, networking software) that all the execs at the top only understand that and are trying to force that business model onto creative and entertainment software. "It's all just code right?".

 

[Hudo]

Of course Schreier comes out of his toilet bowl to cash in on the drama.

Can someone ask that goblin when the Final Fantasy Tactics remake is coming out, as he said more than a year ago?

 

[ProtoByte]

This is exactly what Lina Khan was trying to save us from.

God bless that knight in sining armor who got vanquished by the dragon while you all were cheering

There's no reason to sing praises for the government in any of this. All that legal back and forth was just to display to corporations that they still needed to give congress their tribute.

Deals like this should be allowed, because they inevitably fail. This was obviously too much for Microsoft to handle at any rate, and the bigger they are the harder they fall. Same thing happened with AT&T and WB and is happening now with WB-Discovery.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I spread peanut butter quite thick on my bread thank you Mr Booty ya silly pickle

 

[Astray]

and another that is a highly expensive, extremely niche market home console whose price tag may actually feature a comma in it.

Would be hilarious if Xbox launches the 1st $1,000 console after all.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Also the main workers from Tango will start another new studio and will land with Sony mark my words like The metal gear devs

Nintendo will be a better fit

 

[Banjo64]

Except the current plan that hasn't gotten final approval involves yet another bespoke console 'platform', one being a hybrid Steam Deck-like device, and another that is a highly expensive, extremely niche market home console whose price tag may actually feature a comma in it.

They really are rudderless.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Nintendo will be a better fit

Agreed. Hi-Rush with already existing Nintendo characters would be a hit.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Agreed. Hi-Rush with already existing Nintendo characters would be a hit.

yeah. a wet dream at this point.