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Scientists develop a compound which reverses muscle ageing in mice

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"Saturated fat causes heart disease as much as Brawndo is what plants crave."
Probably exaggerated, but nonetheless this is encouraging. Age treatment will likely be partially effective and involve several different therapies. At first. The rate of scientific discovery is accelerating because there are more 1st world STEM careers and far more productive tools with each decade. When we replace silicon with something like graphene, CPU compute heavy research will going to exponentially speed up. Hopefully the masses will start getting 1st generation therapies in the 2030s prolonging life enough to benefit from 2nd and 3rd generation therapies.

Ie, Science fuck yeah.
 
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kswiston said:
This is a lot closer to hormone treatment than it is rewinding the clock on grandpa such that he is 20 years old again. The fact that half the people in this thread are planning their immortality based on the news shows you how the title reads.
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I don't think they're being serious. Obviously it's comparing only one aspect of youth while applying it to humans nonsensically. Such are mainstream science articles.
 
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It's not so much that we're taking this article to mean we've achieved immortality, it's more so we're seeing the progress made toward the goal of extended lifespan, youthful activity, and et cetera, which together could possibly one day lead to the aforementioned. Really, it's encouraging stuff. Fascinating, actually, what can be done.
 
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NAD+ isn't some new compound. It's been known for over a hundred years. It's precurser is niacin. People have been taking niacin to boost NAD levels for a long time.
From what I can tell from this article, they are just giving NAD directly.
 
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Can Crusher said:
If this works on humans it will soon become an extremely high expense drug, only available to the upper 5%.
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Why? Think about this for a second: if this works then it'll be more popular than Viagra. What will make more money, pricing it out of the market for all but a few and encouraging lower cost copycat drugs from companies in other parts of the word, or selling it at a more reasonable price and have it being bought by virtually everyone?
 
davepoobond

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you know what i think we need guys? an UNNATURAL man-made molecule CREATED in a LABORATORY put in a PILL that we have to use FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES that gives us eternal muscle regeneration


....gimme some-o-dat-shit!
 
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I am really surprised that you keep the "e" in ageing. I always thought it would be aging. Huh. Fascinating news.

Oh, the mouse thing is cool, too.
 
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Drazgul said:
Yeah, just like those massive computers that fill up a whole room and cost millions of dollars.


Oh, wait...
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Computers are one thing.

Healthcare? Quite another. At least in the US, something 'elective' like this would only be available to those who would pay a ton for it.
 
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Fiction said:
Don't worry.

It'll only be available for the super rich.
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Nah, any state would benefit from using something like this.

Though I guess only the best welfare states would think like that early on, the competitive advantage from having a huge, healthy workforce WITH tons of experience would spread the use quickly.

And it's not a problem for countries with lots of land and a low birth rate, it won't lead to overpopulation. Think about having greatly reduced medical costs for the elderly and at the same time enabling them to work.

There's no way it'd be limited to the rich, no state could be that stupid and survive.
 
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So let's pretend we are able to mass produce reverse-aging meds....what does that mean for life sentences in prison? Not sure why I've got jail on the brain
 
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Freshmaker

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kswiston said:
More NAD+ in your cells is not going to get rid of the many other effects of aging. The news article's title is fluff.
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Slowing down arthritis and building up a bit of extra strength would go a long way towards improving one's quality of life vs falling and breaking a hip etc.
 
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Fiction said:
Computers are one thing.

Healthcare? Quite another. At least in the US, something 'elective' like this would only be available to those who would pay a ton for it.
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Thing is, there's a huge interest from several goverments for such a thing to go widesoread. Not inmortality, mind you, but eternal youth. It is a different concept altogether.

Imagine a world where we still die at, say, 80 years old, but where we arrive to such age with our 20-year old selves bodies: no need for retirement programs (one of the biggest goverment expenses all around the world), much lower healthcare costs, bigger working pool and thus, lower wages for everyone! (specially for youths).

Everybody (goverments and corporations) wins, so I can see this getting widespread.
 
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Freshmaker said:
Slowing down arthritis and building up a bit of extra strength would go a long way towards improving one's quality of life vs falling and breaking a hip etc.
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I wasn't saying that this discovery doesn't have the potential to be useful. I just hate sensationalism in Science Journalism. Especially since it leads to laypeople claiming all sorts of crazy things after the fact.

davepoobond said:
you know what i think we need guys? an UNNATURAL man-made molecule CREATED in a LABORATORY put in a PILL that we have to use FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES that gives us eternal muscle regeneration


....gimme some-o-dat-shit!
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NAD+ is an electron transport molecule used in every cell of your body for cellular respiration. If you took biology in high school or freshman year, you would have had to count the number of NAD+ molecules reduced to NADH in Glycolysis, Pyruvate Oxidation, and the Kreb's cycle. This is the same molecule. Not unnatural at all.
 
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So basically it's only a small component of a future rejuvenation treatment since it only affects muscles and even then it doesn't actually increase muscle strength (during the current course of treatment, could be different given more time).

Sign me up anyway.
 
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