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Can you talk about your decision not to sell? I know it was brought up so I’m not sure if that’s an essay’s worth of an answer or not.
The e3 before the big drama GAF was down for 30 seconds. it hold with FFVII Remake... but it didn't hold with Shenmue 3.I would imagine with gaf back to it's best and the only gaming forum in town, that the next gen should bring an influx of numbers.
Though I have enjoyed watching the last two e3s without gaf dying
but it didn't hold with Shenmue 3.
Don't you remember? That hacker was taking down gaf and the only way to stop him was to temp ban all of Australia because that is where he was at.Wasn't that intentional. For being, you know, Australia?
Can you talk about your decision not to sell? I know it was brought up so I’m not sure if that’s an essay’s worth of an answer or not.
I felt a responsibility to the community and to the gaming scene at large to keep NeoGAF neutral and independent. It was being used as a primary news and discussion aggregator and had a lot of influence, even though it wasn’t generating much revenue. Lots of indie devs implored me not to sell, since they had gained traction through GAF after being summarily ignored by the mainstream gaming press. I took all that and all the love from the users on my shoulders and couldn’t justify selling out to a big corporation that would wring it dry.
The e3 before the big drama GAF was down for 30 seconds. it hold with FFVII Remake... but it didn't hold with Shenmue 3.
I felt a responsibility to the community and to the gaming scene at large to keep NeoGAF neutral and independent. It was being used as a primary news and discussion aggregator and had a lot of influence, even though it wasn’t generating much revenue. Lots of indie devs implored me not to sell, since they had gained traction through GAF after being summarily ignored by the mainstream gaming press. I took all that and all the love from the users on my shoulders and couldn’t justify selling out to a big corporation that would wring it dry.
Is GAF backed up to tape?Server migration took a lot of considerations and planing, but after that all was straight forward.
I think the best achievement was reducing the migration time of a 150GB database from 24+hours to less than 3h.
And is not nerve racking... is just boring waiting for it to finish
I'm glad to see the place recovering but I have to ask, why did you let SonyGAF ruin the gaming side?I felt a responsibility to the community and to the gaming scene at large to keep NeoGAF neutral and independent. It was being used as a primary news and discussion aggregator and had a lot of influence, even though it wasn’t generating much revenue. Lots of indie devs implored me not to sell, since they had gained traction through GAF after being summarily ignored by the mainstream gaming press. I took all that and all the love from the users on my shoulders and couldn’t justify selling out to a big corporation that would wring it dry.
So you don't remember? You've been here longer than me!Yup I've experienced what happens when a site is sold and it's always a bad idea. They promise everything, but within a year the site will either be dead or unrecognizable.
Hell, I think Collider even bought themselves back. From what I understand, Frosty sold it to Complex, but then bought it back to take it back independent.
Selling out is always a bad idea if you actually care about what you built and want to see it continue.
Tbh it was part of the fun. If gaf crashed you knew a megaton was droppedThe e3 before the big drama GAF was down for 30 seconds. it hold with FFVII Remake... but it didn't hold with Shenmue 3.
So you don't remember? You've been here longer than me!
Did all the women jump to Resetera?
Maybe for the golden childrenIf there's a book, members certainly get a free copy right?
Yup I've experienced what happens when a site is sold and it's always a bad idea. They promise everything, but within a year the site will either be dead or unrecognizable.
Hell, I think Collider even bought themselves back. From what I understand, Frosty sold it to Complex, but then bought it back to take it back independent.
Selling out is always a bad idea if you actually care about what you built and want to see it continue.
you can def get itI thought about it a bit lately, and I have to say, you have my respect for duking it out instead of saying "fuck it" and leave. Which I would have probably done.
Can't imagine the shit you had to go through at the time.
And I am happy I that this place still exists, or I would probably have left gaming forums all together for the future after my weird stint at REE where I didn't post much because I was scared to get immediately banned.
And it's better than ever here..
Kudos to you, sir...
A vagina is just a penis turned inside outWell, they think they’re women
In terms of posting activity, we went from about 75,000 posts per day pre-drama to 500 posts per day after the drama. We're back up to around 4,000 posts per day and 5,000 reactions per day now.
2. Do you regret not implementing GAF GOLD sooner, I assume it would have done very well even before the split - which would sort out any revenue issues.
The funny thing is now no one wants to go to E3.
i'm kinda annoyed that teamxbox was like sold to IGN or whatever it was one of my first forums in middle school i remember it was fun posting there when the first Xbox was released
How did GAF go from resetera-like (extreme left, not allowing other opinions) to such a free forum? With the same owner?
The cancer removed itself
I like it this way. I joined about a year or so before the drama. I was nervous to even post. I was scared to piss off the crazies and worried they would use my work email that I had to use to make my life hell. All because I didn't agree.No argument here. We had 16+ straight years of steady growth until the big drama. But, taking it slowly and doing it right builds a stronger foundation for the future. We’ll see plenty more recovery in 2020.
I’ll always love youI did my best man, geez.
I reckon another 5 years and we will be back on top. I just hope that staff and mods remember how badly things can go wrong and protect against it.
Anyway next gen is coming and I’m sure that will bring some newbies. Come on in the waters lovely!
How did GAF go from resetera-like (extreme left, not allowing other opinions) to such a free forum? With the same owner?
I am consistently amazed by your ability to not curl up into a ball and quit EviLore . Shit, it's what I expected. Makes my depression over other things seem laughable.
I also want to say I never would have joined under the old GAF, even well before the exodus. The moderation now has improved to the point that this is the best forum I've seen in terms of free discussion (without becoming a complete shithole). What you all are doing is working.
The exodus was rough, but I kept regularly lurking here because the whole situation came off as ridiculous. The biggest disappointment was in how many posters actually fully left, I honestly figured only 30-50% would actually leave. So glad I never fully bought into Era.
My biggest question is just how you managed to push forward? Did you have anyone (or multiple somebodies) that really helped support you? Did you ever think about ending the site, and if so what convinced you not to?
What is the history behind this image?
Is this evilore right?!
Remaining anonymous, I'll confirm that devs in many west coast studios still frequent here and ham it up. Some of us have taken a lesser role in the industry after 20 yrs, but still give love and reminisce about the days of prime E3, GAF and the laughing gif :lol.In terms of posting activity, we went from about 75,000 posts per day pre-drama to 500 posts per day after the drama. We're back up to around 4,000 posts per day and 5,000 reactions per day now.
Assisted by outside forcesThe cancer removed itself
Remaining anonymous, I'll confirm that devs in many west coast studios still frequent here and ham it up. Some of us have taken a lesser role in the industry after 20 yrs, but still give love and reminisce about the days of prime E3, GAF and the laughing gif :lol.
Anyone else attend the 2001 Xbox party at Palladium with Third Eye Blind, Blink 182, Chemical Brothers and the mosh pit? Those naked dancers in showers... Why can't we have more nice things?
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Remaining anonymous, I'll confirm that devs in many west coast studios still frequent here and ham it up. Some of us have taken a lesser role in the industry after 20 yrs, but still give love and reminisce about the days of prime E3, GAF and the laughing gif :lol.
Anyone else attend the 2001 Xbox party at Palladium with Third Eye Blind, Blink 182, Chemical Brothers and the mosh pit? Those naked dancers in showers... Why can't we have more nice things?
You know what I like about the new admins/mods team? They’re all new apart from Gromph the OG. You rarely see them posting but always on the watch. I’d like to see them more around interacting but that’s up to them of course
I’d also like to add that they don’t take sides. Thread got heated? They get in between to calm the storm and leave. I love them