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[reksveks]

Presentation: https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/21q4_sonypre.pdf
Supplementary Info https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/21q4_supplement.pdf

Summary
- 18M PS5 forecast for the next financial year in the earnings call.
- 34% increase in G&NS revenue next financial year (factor will be ps5 hw revenue numbers, psvr2, increased ARPU on ps+)
- 47% of the 2tn jpy investment for Sony as whole is undecided
- 14.5m first party software sold.

will update with more info as I get a chance

 

[reksveks]

Reserved





Software and Services numbers (using 121 JPY:1 USD)

Sony and Xbox HW numbers

Market share of revenue

Total Revenue

YoY growth across total revenue

Mobile gaming revenue

 

[Zones]

Anemic PS5 shipment numbers.

Ouch!

 

[kyliethicc]

 

[Exanthus]

Neat

 

[Menzies]

PSPlus numbers look pretty flat, being at the same level as over a year ago. What's the go there?

 

[kyliethicc]

PSPlus numbers look pretty flat, being at the same level as over a year ago. What's the go there?

Seems there’s an inevitable ceiling that will limit growth for any sub service.

As Netflix’s shareholders have recently discovered.

 

[Panajev2001a]

There are unknown variables, like how much of the $3.6 Billion they are paying for Bungie are they putting down in FY2022 and how much of the other acquisitions they plan will be charged to that fiscal year (some operating costs also rose by staffing up studios, organic growth yeah ), but it gives some insights to what they plan to acquire between now and March 2022 or at least the portion of the purchase they will put down in the balance sheet on FY2022 (some or a lot of that could go in FY2023 too, depending on when the purchase is completed and other factors like multi year giant nosiness to keep employees during the transition, etc…).

What we know for sure is that they project a large revenue growth and still a drop on profits which means an increase in costs/spending by almost $7.5 Billion (for FY ending in March 2022).

 

[kyliethicc]

There are unknown variables, like how much of the $3.6 Billion they are paying for Bungie are they putting down in FY2022 and how much of the other acquisitions they plan will be charged to that fiscal year (some operating costs also rose by staffing up studios, organic growth yeah ), but it gives some insights to what they plan to acquire between now and March 2022 or at least the portion of the purchase they will put down in the balance sheet on FY2022 (some or a lot of that could go in FY2023 too, depending on when the purchase is completed and other factors like multi year giant nosiness to keep employees during the transition, etc…).

What we know for sure is that they project a large revenue growth and still a drop on profits which means an increase in costs/spending by almost $7.5 Billion (for FY ending in March 2022).

44 billon yen is like 340 million USD.

 

[Three]

Anemic PS5 shipment numbers.

Ouch!

19.3M PS5s isn't bad but that last quarter where they cut forcasts due to chip supply issues was not good at all.

 

[MonarchJT]

flat year ...that doesn't look good

 

[MOTM]

PS5 at 19.3 million, estimates put the Series X at almost 15 million.

The armchair analysts predicted a 3:1 ratio before the start of this gen. Please, somebody make this make sense.

And don’t even bother pretending the PS5 is the only console that has known supply constraints.

 

[Panajev2001a]

44 billon yen is like 340 million USD.

Sure, but that is the new estimated profits while the income grew by much much more. So if you make much much more and you achieve even less… well .

Revenue: increases by ~920 million Yen
~Profits: decreases by ~44 million Yen
Total costs increase: ~964 Million Yen

 

[Zok310]

Wow, either studio size are growing or they about to buy some shit this fiscal year

 

[Panajev2001a]

PS5 at 19.3 million, estimates put the Series X at almost 15 million.

The armchair analysts predicted a 3:1 ratio before the start of this gen. Please, somebody make this make sense.

And don’t even bother pretending the PS5 is the only console that has known supply constraints.

XSS sold better than people expected and both consoles are still in a phase where their sales are production limited.

 

[Zones]

PS5 at 19.3 million, estimates put the Series X at almost 15 million.

The armchair analysts predicted a 3:1 ratio before the start of this gen. Please, somebody make this make sense.

And don’t even bother pretending the PS5 is the only console that has known supply constraints.

No one has said PS5 will outsell the Xbox Series consoles by 3:1 (not when PS4 couldn't), please show receipts, otherwise you would come across as a desperate fanboy for making shit up in order to bring unnecessary console war talk into an unrelated discussion.

 

[Oti_nanai]

PSPlus numbers look pretty flat, being at the same level as over a year ago. What's the go there?

Don't forget that 2020 also had covid lockdowns. Many people had to stay inside.

 

[Thief1987]

flat year ...that doesn't look good

When sony going bankrupt? Your educated guess?

 

[Airbus Jr]

PS5 racing to victory woo

 

[Zok310]

Shipping 18 million ps5 this year. Seems they got over shortages. Sales and ps5 owners about to skyrocket.

 

[T-Cake]

I’m considering Sony to be on probation for these next sixth months until my PS Now sub expires. If the service isn’t dramatically improved by the end of the year, then my PS5 is going to be a Christmas present for somebody else and I’m going full on XBox and Game Pass.

 

[MonarchJT]

When sony going bankrupt? Your educated guess?

I'm just stating the obvious ...a flat year doesn't look good expecially if they are forecasting less income for the next year too. what's wrong saying this ?

 

[yazenov]

Not bad for an extremely supply constrained product.

Software sales growth in Q4 is good compared to the same quarter last year.

 

[Jormatar]

Seems like the PlayStation train ain't stopping any time soon.

 

[Varteras]

I'm just stating the obvious ...a flat year doesn't look good expecially if they are forecasting less income for the next year too. what's wrong saying this ?

Their profits will be lower due to acquisitions and investments. Their revenue is expected to increase by 34% next year. That's $7 billion more than what SIE made this year. That's great.

 

[prinz_valium]

When sony going bankrupt? Your educated guess?

By 2100 with a 85% probability

 

[yazenov]

PS5 at 19.3 million, estimates put the Series X at almost 15 million.

The armchair analysts predicted a 3:1 ratio before the start of this gen. Please, somebody make this make sense.

And don’t even bother pretending the PS5 is the only console that has known supply constraints.

I seem to recall alot of Xbox series S on the shelves while there arent any PS5s on any shelf.

There is a huge difference in demand and we all know that the only thing stopping the PS train from 3x xbox is the supply. Lets not kid ourselves into thinking they are remotely the same demand wise.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Looks like close gen between Sony and Microsoft. The closer they get, the bigger we win.

 

[Zok310]

Looks like close gen between Sony and Microsoft. The closer they get, the bigger we win.

We won pretty good last gen and the 2 were far apart….ahh same goes for PS2 era.

 

[Mech_Warrior]

I guess that explains the PC ports and Sony Game Pass.

 

[Ozriel]

We won pretty good last gen and the 2 were far apart….ahh same goes for PS2 era.

I believe he used the term ‘bigger’ for a reason.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

We won pretty good last gen and the 2 were far apart….ahh same goes for PS2 era.

You don't want arrogant Sony from PS3 times to come back. Or Don Mattrick era bullshit from early Xbox One. Competition is good.

 

[Heisenberg007]

PlayStation continues to be the Giga Chad!

+ Another strong year.
+ Spot-on PS5 sales projections for the last quarter.
+ Encouraging PS5 projections for the future, which would be critical to capture an even bigger market chart.
+ Increase game development costs, which is good news for PS gamers.
+ Hints at closing at least 1-2 studio acquisitions.
+ Significantly increased revenue projections
+ Increased first-party sales (14.5 million first-party software sales just this quarter!!)

All-round an excellent year for PS.

 

[reksveks]

Think they have said 18m ps5 in the following financial year.

Waiting for confirmation.

 

[Varteras]

Apparently Sony's CFO said Sony plans on investing $30 billion ($4 trillion yen) into strategic investments

Also, this is their progress so far on their 4th mid-range plan

 

[arvfab]

put the Series X at almost 15 million.

So the Series S sold 0 consoles?

 

[reksveks]

Apparently Sony's CFO said Sony plans on investing $30 billion ($4 trillion yen) into strategic investments

Also, this is their progress so far on their 4th mid-range plan

Source? For the 4t yen number?

 

[Varteras]

Source? For the 4t yen number?

I don't have an official source on that at the moment. Just a Twitter feed that pours over this kind of data and updates as things come out.

 

[kyliethicc]

Hints at closing at least 1-2 studio acquisitions.

Pretty sure that’s just Haven and Bungie, which haven’t closed yet.

 

[reksveks]

I don't have an official source on that at the moment. Just a Twitter feed that pours over this kind of data and updates as things come out.

Zuby is a okay follow except for the time where he is wrong and refuses to correct himself.

Will wait to see if there is anything in the transcript later.

 

[reksveks]

PSVR2 is coming out as we all probably knew. It explains a bit of the revenue increase and decreased OI.

 

[Varteras]

Zuby is a okay follow except for the time where he is wrong and refuses to correct himself.

Will wait to see if there is anything in the transcript later.

Yeah. I didn't want to go too heavy onto that because he's not an official source and has been wrong in the past. That's why I said "apparently" and didn't bother quoting him right off the bat. Want to hear it from someone a little more reliable.

 

[reksveks]

Any info about sales of H:FW and GT7? Because Sony loves to brag about numbers when they are high, but they are silent when they are low...

In two weeks I assume.

What Q did TLOU2 and GoT come out again?

 

[cormack12]

 

[Godot25]

PS5 at 19.3 million, estimates put the Series X at almost 15 million.

The armchair analysts predicted a 3:1 ratio before the start of this gen. Please, somebody make this make sense.

And don’t even bother pretending the PS5 is the only console that has known supply constraints.

It was obvious to anybody with a brain cells that gap between Xbox and PlayStation would shrink this gen.

PS4 outsold Xbox One 2,3:1 while Xbox had nonexisting first-party, higher-priced system and stain of DRM revel.
And anybody can see, that situation is different.

I still expect PS5 to be on top of Xbox, but it will probably be 105 million vs 85-90 million. Which is great for Microsoft since they are have Xbox as a part of their business strategy, not the only part.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

No one has said PS5 will outsell the Xbox Series consoles by 3:1

Spoiler: Are you sure?

And you have a dude in this very thread claiming that it would easily be 3:1 without supply constraints. Meanwhile in reality, it's something like 1.3:1.

 

[kyliethicc]

In two weeks I assume.

What Q did TLOU2 and GoT come out again?

TLOU2 was Q1 FY20. (18.7 mil 1st party sold.)

Ghost was Q2 FY20. (12.8 mil 1st party sold.)

 

[reksveks]

TLOU2 was Q1 FY20. (18.7 mil 1st party sold.)

Ghost was Q2 FY20. (12.8 mil 1st party sold.)

Cheers for that.

 

[Zok310]

You don't want arrogant Sony from PS3 times to come back. Or Don Mattrick era bullshit from early Xbox One. Competition is good.

How did arrogant sony or Don had an impact on gamers? Everything turned out great.

 

[kyliethicc]

How did arrogant sony or Don had an impact on gamers? Everything turned out great.

PS3 Sony was Knackless.

Dark times.