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[Ozriel]

All the updates are very negative. Coalition cancelled their game. We learn that Fable just entered full production and that Perfect Dark and Everwild are still nowhere to be seen. What a disaster on the XGS side.

Grubb canceled an imaginary game

Not sure why you expected to see Perfect Dark and Everwild in a Reddit post

Fable is unlikely to have just entered full production, and latest LinkedIn leak clarifies the game is already having playthroughs and build reviews.

 

[ungalo]

I'm talking about what VGC said, the reddit post mostly uses 3 sources, VGC, Grubb and Corden, who are most of the time reliable (but granted they also make a lot of mistakes).

 

[II_JumPeR_I]

I really dont believe that Fable is that far out.
They announced that thing in freaking 2020 and was rumored to be in dev for over a year before that.
I really hope we see that thing with a 2024 release window

 

[Riky]

I really dont believe that Fable is that far out.
They announced that thing in freaking 2020 and was rumored to be in dev for over a year before that.
I really hope we see that thing with a 2024 release window

I think we'll at least see it next month.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Should see a fair few games at the show next month then, hopefully we'll have something for 2023 we don't know about yet.

Who we got left...me, you, adamsapple and HeisenbergFX4 a little bit enthusiastic for this show. Lol

 

[SaucyJack]

So 42 games coming, in hopefully the next 2/3 years....

Tbh this is so close to hitting the nail on the head.

They’re not going to release 42 games in the next 2/3 years.

But with the studio system that they have Xbox should be releasing 10+ games per year fleshed out with some curated Indie titles and some third party exclusives. Not everything needs to be a banger but there should be reasonably big titles every 3 or 4 months.

Problem is that they’re nowhere near that level of productive, and that’s first and foremost a management issue.

 

[Pelta88]

Me when i realize 90% of the list is sourced from Jez Corden.

Fool me once... I put zero credibility into "Project this and that" and "I heard." Show me the actual game running on console or GTFO.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Who we got left...me, you, adamsapple and HeisenbergFX4 a little bit enthusiastic for this show. Lol

 

[Riky]

Who we got left...me, you, adamsapple and HeisenbergFX4 a little bit enthusiastic for this show. Lol

I predict a reality check for a lot of people, hoping to see the first batch of UE5 next gen only games that look like a big step up from what we've seen before.

 

[adamsapple]

Who we got left...me, you, adamsapple and HeisenbergFX4 a little bit enthusiastic for this show. Lol

 

[adamsapple]

I predict a reality check for a lot of people, hoping to see the first batch of UE5 next gen only games that look like a big step up from what we've seen before.

Aaron is hinting HB2's presence.

 

[Ozriel]

I'm talking about what VGC said, the reddit post mostly uses 3 sources, VGC, Grubb and Corden, who are most of the time reliable (but granted they also make a lot of mistakes).

Grubb makes mistakes, and the Coalition rumor is not credible. Saying they needed to make a smaller game to ‘learn UE5’ isn’t credible since they’re some of the foremost UE experts in the industry, worked with Epic during UE5 devt and put out the Matrix Experience on Series consoles.

The more likely scenario is that Grubb mistook their GDC demo for a game and then had to claim it was canceled to save face.

With Fable, you have an actual employee listing his duties as facilitating playthroughs and reviewing builds, meaning it’s playable. That supersedes any rumors from a VGC reporter.

The report stating Everwild development was in a messy state is dated 2021. Two years ago.

Eh. After seeing his Redfall tweets, he’s on his own

 

[DenchDeckard]

Grubb makes mistakes, and the Coalition rumor is not credible. Saying they needed to make a smaller game to ‘learn UE5’ isn’t credible since they’re some of the foremost UE experts in the industry, worked with Epic during UE5 devt and put out the Matrix Experience on Series consoles.

The more likely scenario is that Grubb mistook their GDC demo for a game and then had to claim it was canceled to save face.

With Fable, you have an actual employee listing his duties as facilitating playthroughs and reviewing builds, meaning it’s playable. That supersedes any rumors from a VGC reporter.

The report stating Everwild development was in a messy state is dated 2021. Two years ago.


Eh. After seeing his Redfall tweets, he’s on his own

Shit, I forgot about you dude. Apologies!

 

[Ozriel]

Shit, I forgot about you dude. Apologies!

at this point, it’s clear to anyone at MS that they need a blowout to start turning perception around, so they’ll need to come out with a stacked portfolio. Not much more hiding place this time.

So really interested in seeing what they’re going to show next month. Not to mention the Starfield deep dive.

With Google I/O tomorrow, the May 11th ROG Ally deep dive, Sony’s showcase end May and even Apple’s WWDC, it’s going to be a solid next 30 days.

 

[Thirty7ven]

The image in the op is awesome.

 

[ResilientBanana]

I really hope a new Quake is on the way.

 

[SaucyJack]

Who we got left...me, you, adamsapple and HeisenbergFX4 a little bit enthusiastic for this show. Lol

I'm enthusiastic for the show. Regardless of scepticism around delivery I do enjoy a good gaming show and there's definitely not been enough of them the last couple of years.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Ninja Theory have become a mental health charity and Obsidian are making 7 games in 7 years......is anyone actually in charge at Xbox studios,sounds like the wheels have come off.

I can get criticizing output from some Xbox studios (343i, Arkane Austin etc...), but Ninja Theory and Obsidian have been pretty great. Even though Bleeding Edge was a flop, it wasn't a bad game and didn't exactly break the bank. If Hellblade 2 is not good, maybe it'll be time to worry about Ninja Theory. Obsidian on the other hand is looking like XGS's best studio now. We'll see how Avowed goes, but The Outer Worlds, Grounded and Pentiment are all fantastic games.

 

[kyussman]

I can get criticizing output from some Xbox studios (343i, Arkane Austin etc...), but Ninja Theory and Obsidian have been pretty great. Even though Bleeding Edge was a flop, it wasn't a bad game and didn't exactly break the bank. If Hellblade 2 is not good, maybe it'll be time to worry about Ninja Theory. Obsidian on the other hand is looking like XGS's best studio now. We'll see how Avowed goes, but The Outer Worlds, Grounded and Pentiment are all fantastic games.

I guess it's all subjective,you call The Outer Worlds fantastic I call it average.It riffed heavily on Fallout and hardly had an original idea in it.I certainly hope Avowed offers a bit more and doesn't just riff on Skyrim in the same way.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I guess it's all subjective,you call The Outer Worlds fantastic I call it average.It riffed heavily on Fallout and hardly had an original idea in it.I certainly hope Avowed offers a bit more and doesn't just riff on Skyrim in the same way.

For sure, but it reviewed well and was considered a success especially for it's budget. That's like me saying Guerilla's output sucks because I don't like their Ubisoft games. Horizon is clearly a successful series, but I think it's tired and boring. Clearly I'm in the minority on that.

 

[cireza]

Who we got left...me, you, adamsapple and HeisenbergFX4 a little bit enthusiastic for this show. Lol

There is no reason for them not being able to put a good show this year. Not that the previous ones were abysmal, they have been pretty consistent for the last several years. But with all the games that have been in the oven, they have to show some interesting things, otherwise it won't make any sense. Fable, Avowed to name a couple.

 

[ebevan91]

I want to hear about Everwild. I thought it looked really interesting when they first revealed it but it has gone through multiple reboots apparently.

 

[kyussman]

For sure, but it reviewed well and was considered a success especially for it's budget. That's like me saying Guerilla's output sucks becauee I don't like their Ubisoft games. Horizon is clearly a successful series, but I think it's tired and boring. Clearly I'm in the minority on that.

Hey,Death Stranding is probably my favorite game of all time.....I'm all about minority views,no shame in that,lol.

 

[Riky]

Aaron is hinting HB2's presence.

Hope it's the case, seeing Hellblade 2 and Forza Motorsport will give us the two best looking console games so far, about time we had the Series X being pushed.