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The Washington Post: Why is millennial humor so weird?

benjipwns

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...af9cae-7dd5-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html
In a sepia-toned portrait that looks like a dark relic of the Soviet era, five figures stand frowning in profile: Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin and finally a computer-generated hot dog wearing green headphones. The image appeared on Twitter in mid-July, where it circulated among various casual users before finding its way to my feed. The wiener is not a socialist icon; in fact, he is a breakdancing sausage from a Snapchat filter. His inclusion in a lineup of the U.S.S.R.’s patron saints doesn’t mean anything. Maybe nothing does.

I am not a nihilist, but a mood of grim, jolly absurdism comes over me often, as it seems to come over many of my young peers. To visit millennial comedy, advertising and memes is to spend time in a dream world where ideas twist and suddenly vanish; where loops of self-referential quips warp and distort with each iteration, tweaked by another user embellishing on someone else’s joke, until nothing coherent is left; where beloved children’s character Winnie the Pooh is depicted in a fan-made comic strip as a 9/11 truther, and grown men in a parody ad dance to shrill synth beats while eating Totino’s pizza rolls out of a tiny pink backpack. In this weird world of the surreal and bizarre, horror mingles with humor, and young people have space to play with emotions that seem more and more to proceed from ordinary life — the creeping suspicion that the world just doesn’t make sense.
Tim Heidecker and Eric Wareheim are a pair of comedians whose work exists in the zone of the weird and grotesque, veering wildly between horror and humor. They made their debut on Adult Swim, basic cable’s top programming among 18-to-34-year-olds, back in 2006 and are due to release a new season of their series “Tim & Eric’s Bedtime Stories ” this fall. Their skits run the gamut from slightly to extremely surreal, with low-fi, retro graphics; distorted audio; and disjointed editing adding to the eerie feel. In one sketch, Tim and Eric compete in an increasingly deranged commercial to sell prices — fine European prices, premium prices, American-made prices, extremely small prices — no products, just prices. “It feels interesting to live in that surreal moment versus the horror of reality sometimes,” Wareheim told me, citing the prolonged, agonizingly uncomfortable shots and freakish close-ups in their show. There’s a sense of dull dread running through Heidecker and Wareheim’s work, but there’s also relief, an invitation to laugh at the awkward and absurd. “It’s an expression of that fear and anxiety,” Wareheim said, referring to one of their many skits focused on the tension of daily life. “But I just feel like it’s fun to watch our show, and you are transported to another dimension of similar things, but it’s not real, so you’re just like ‘ahh’ . . . it’s a pleasant surreal world.”

Tim and Eric are not alone. Other shows, such as Adult Swim’s “Rick and Morty ” and Netflix’s “BoJack Horseman, ” follow in this vein, imagining, as New Yorker critic Emily Nussbaum put it, “bleakness and joy” in a “teeming, surreal alternative universe.” Advertising aimed at young people, too, exhibits the trend. Consider a 2012 candy ad in which two teenagers stand nervously under the bleachers; one picks “Skittles pox” off the other’s pasty skin, then pops them in her mouth. Unlike the subcultural stoner comedy of yesteryear or the giddily absurd humor of classics like Monty Python, this breed of millennial surrealism is both mainstream and tangibly dark — it aims for wide swaths of young people, leaning in to feelings of worry, failure and dread.
Meanwhile, online culture allows more people to get in on the action, producing their own contributions to the meaningless, loopy, sometimes-sinister whirling gyre of the moment in the form of memes. In the simplest terms, memes are any pieces of cultural information that spread among groups by imitation, changing bit by bit along the way. In other words, distortion is a key attribute of this form, a warping effect that occurs as each instance of a meme grows more distant from its origin, sometimes losing any meaning whatsoever. (Gallows humor about the late Cincinnati Zoo gorilla Harambe, for instance, has transformed into a whole genre of jokes only tenuously related to the original ape.) For millennials, memes form the backdrop of life online.

Adam Downer is a 26-year-old associate staff editor at Know Your Meme, an online encyclopedia of the form where the oldest staffer tops out at about age 32, Downer told me. He spends his days scouring the Net for memes, documenting their origins and, when possible, explaining to readers what they mean. Since 2008, Know Your Meme’s staff has indexed some 11,228 memes and adds new entries to its database every day. The strangest meme he ever worked on, Downer says, was a bizarre mind-virus called “Hey Beter.” The meme consists of four panels, the first including the phrase “Hey Beter,” a riff on “Hey Peter,” referring to the main character of the comedy cartoon series “Family Guy.” What comes next seems to make even less sense: In one iteration, the Sesame Street character Elmo (wearing a “suck my a--” T-shirt) calls out to Peter, then asks him to spell “whomst’ve,” then blasts him with blue lasers. In the final panel, readers are advised to “follow for a free iphone 5.” (There is no prize.) “That one was inexplicably popular,” Downer told me. “I think it got popular because it was this giant emptiness of meaning. It was this giant race to the bottom of irony.”
In his book “The Weird and the Eerie,” author Mark Fisher points out that, in most cases, “the response to the apparition of a grotesque object will involve laughter as much as revulsion.” And the weird, Fisher goes on, “is a signal that the concepts and frameworks which we have previously employed are now obsolete.” By staking out a playful space to meditate on emotions that are usually upsetting (like the dread and anxiety of living in a thoroughly postmodern world), millennial surrealism intermixes relief with stress and levity with lunacy.

There may be no mixture better suited for getting through ordinary life. In July, researchers at Harvard University announced that they had managed to store a gif inside living bacteria by altering the bacterium’s DNA. For scientists, the strange little success heralded important achievements in gene modification. Twitter user Honkimus Maximus welcomed the news with a meme depicting the “Simpsons” character Mr. Burns googly-eyed and sedate, receiving an injection of memes directly into his veins. “S O O N,” Maximus captioned the image. It already feels like now.

No, the comments don't seem to answer the question either:
abrooklynite
1:41 PM EDT [Edited]
Their children shows were bizarre, break neck, nonsensical, and brightly colored. I am an older millenial, on the border with gen x, and the tastes that molded them are completely different than mine. Some things I remember my cousins watching, like fairly odd parents, is like the effects of a coke and sugar binge compared to the looney tunes I watched as a kid. It was extremely random and with little set up to the jokes.

I honestly can't find any of it funny. It is always dumber and less clever than people think it is. People will say you're not smart enough to get it, but the problem is I do get it, instantly, and it is boorish or boring. It is obvious or too random.
neverlookback
4:00 PM EDT
Sorry honey, stupidity isn't Cleverness. The same old, same old isn't innovation. And drawing a smile on a shoe isn't art.
I have no problem with Millennials liking whatever they like, as self-indulgent and repetitious as it might be. I definitely share the
notions of absurdness, nonsense and meaning in meaningless, but I don't think thinking that way is genius. Sorry.
acarldominic1
3:12 PM EDT
When you don't read, write, or substantively think about a world not defined on a social media platform; you produce juvenile cotton candy comedy.
Elk Watcher
4:26 PM EDT
I find it far more disturbing that only 19% of millennials would object to a military takeover of this country. If anyone thinks things are strange now - consider the idiocy of Trump - living under a military dictatorship would be horrific.
TheCeeMan
3:43 PM EDT
If late, late middle-aged guys like me loved Millennials' music and/or humor then it would be, by definition, no good. My parents didn't think Monty Python was funny and they pretty much hated any rock I listened too. It's just generational.
Curmudgeon10
2:01 PM EDT
With all that disaffection, loneliness, and disconnection from work --- truly impressive stats --- it makes you want to turn back the clock and become a millenial. It looks like a successful program in avoiding the toughest of things: life.
jackl31
1:10 PM EDT
The best humor has meaning. The humor of the golden age of Mort Sahl, George Carlin, Bob Newhart, Joan Rivers, et. al. hinged on a commentary on life or people. The meaning of current humor is that life has no meaning.
Buscador de la verdad
6:46 PM EDT
I'm apparently a millenial, born in '84. I do not identify with that group however. They are just as weird to me as they are to you mom and dad. Also, no one likes Tim and Eric. I have asked at least 40 people that I know why that show is even airing. No one can give me an answer.
peacecatman1
6:10 PM EDT
Maybe if you stopped staring at your phone and talked to the person at the table with you who is also staring at their phone, you might find some meaning to life, or at least you might use a brain cell or two, instead of acting like a zombie.
drpickerel
5:05 PM EDT
Huh? Looking for deep meaning in online cr*p? Gimme a break, Elizabeth and all the others who'vestve wasted a big chunk of their lives playing with phones in the world's largest clique, chasing 19, 21, I love you huskies and what ever else lame junk they think is important and even worse, funny, are pathetic.

The guys selling prices nailed it! It's all fake, google and fb are global advertising malware and no one ever clicks on ads! There are plenty of good jobs for millennials, that whine is so worn out. I work with lots of them and they're totally normal people. The online fantasy world has created a huge subculture of jello people with no skills beyond playing with phones who want to get paid for...playing with phones, at home. Go outside!


But this comment answers the question and all questions that could be asked:
Kluvon Scott
4:41 PM EDT [Edited]
That reminds me of the infamous question: If a masochist asked you to beat him, would you want to disappoint him by saying no?
 

Fat4all

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kirblar

Member
Tim and Eric are both Gen Xers....

Adult Swim has been full of weird stuff, but almost none of it created by Millenials!
 

Cocaloch

Member
I mean the answer seems pretty clearly that Millennials are the first generation to have grown up with post-modernism somewhat established.
 
wen i saw millenial humor white my friends they seid wtf is this your showing me 2 kids making ironik memes from reddit butt when i showd them gen x humor they thougt it was pritty cool
 
9/11 changed everything for millennials

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Still, Millennials brought me Nathan For You and The Eric Andre Show and The Good Place so I'm cool with them.
 

bananas

Banned
wen i saw millenial humor white my friends they seid wtf is this your showing me 2 kids making ironik memes from reddit butt when i showd them gen x humor they thougt it was pritty cool
i like watching when the funne man scream when playing the game, when i played the video game i did not do that
 

DonShula

Member
My God those comments are thick. "My taste is the intelligent taste" is such a fucking boomer mindset.

If it's isn't for you, it isn't for you. Shut the fuck up and move on.
 
I've grown tired of the "weird" humor. Tim and Eric, MDE, etc. Shit's boring to me now. I find myself retreating back to Trailer Park Boys or Seinfeld nowadays for a laugh. Eric Andre is still funny, though. Tim and Eric is a huge hit and miss, sadly.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
uh, I think if you lock a bunch of people into a box they don't live very long

Yes but the question is how long? The ideal course of action is to incite fatal violence in order to conserve oxygen in the long run, but you carry the risk of becoming a fatality yourself, and the extra exertion might wind up consuming more oxygen than it saves. Still, hydration won't be a problem until a week-in and hunger wouldn't be an issue for months. Hygiene is the bigger threat perhaps.
 

neoanarch

Member
I've grown tired of the "weird" humor. Tim and Eric, MDE, etc. Shit's boring to me now. I find myself retreating back to Trailer Park Boys or Seinfeld nowadays for a laugh. Eric Andre is still funny, though. Tim and Eric is a huge hit and miss, sadly.
Why do people end statements like this..


Sadly
Unfortunately
Regretably


What exactly is there to be sad about based on the previous statement? Unfortunately I do not understand.
 

WedgeX

Banned
9/11 changed everything for millennials

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Still, Millennials brought me Nathan For You and The Eric Andre Show and The Good Place so I'm cool with them.

But really. We Millenials saw thousands of people die on television. All of us under 20. Its not much different from the Dadaism, surrealism, the Lost Generation, etc. that came after World War 1.
 
Adam Downer is a 26-year-old associate staff editor at Know Your Meme, an online encyclopedia of the form where the oldest staffer tops out at about age 32, Downer told me. He spends his days scouring the Net for memes, documenting their origins and, when possible, explaining to readers what they mean.

Hell is a place on Earth.
 
When you don't have to worry for your day to day survival at a subsistence level and all news is bad news and you lack opportunities for advancement that were afforded to your forbears, escapist absurdism is really the only place you're likely to find comfort.

It's also like none of these people read Voltaire's Candide in school. Shit goes way back.

Hell is other people.

FTFY
 

EYEL1NER

Member
The thing that blew my mind from the article: That Skittles-pox ad is from 2012?! I know it feels like an old ad but I couldn't believe that they are still showing an ad from five years ago.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
Good. Gen X & Baby Boomer humor is fucking garbage. You can only listen to so many old bald dudes going "My fucking wife, boy I tell ya!"
 
May I say as a millennial born in the 90s, I can't stand Tim & Eric, Adult Swim or that skittlepox ad. Does anyone like that Skittle Pox ad? I've never met anyone who thought any of Skittles commercials were funny, cute or memorable.

I don't think there is millennial humor, gen X humor, baby boomer humor, etc. There are different styles and kinds of comedy/humor. All of them have different trends and phases don't think you can pick it as a generational thing. Even memes. There are some people who love memes, I've seen baby boomers posting memes. Meanwhile there are others that don't seem to care for memes including many millenials, I know.
 
May I say as a millennial born in the 90s, I can't stand Tim & Eric, Adult Swim or that skittlepox ad. Does anyone like that Skittle Pox ad? I've never met anyone who thought any of Skittles commercials were funny, cute or memorable.

Do you need permission? Like whatever you want, it's not like those things you mentioned are that popular. They only ever got a few 100,000 viewers an episode. Most millennials probably don't like that stuff.
 

PAULINK

I microwave steaks.
not only is their humor weird, but their cartoons suck. It's a good thing anime is taking over, otherwise i'd feel sorry for this generation.
 
So are the Flintstones and Jetsons these clever, meaningful cartoons?

Well Boomers are largely conservatives.

The Flinstones is an idealized portrayal of the rise of civilization and industry, while The Jetsons is an idealized portrayal of the future of that civilization. There's no black characters in either. Maybe that was a "clever" way of inserting a certain "meaning,"

I think there's actually a black character in The Jetsons Movie, but I can't remember for sure.
 
Do you need permission? Like whatever you want, it's not like those things you mentioned are that popular. They only ever got a few 100,000 viewers an episode. Most millennials probably don't like that stuff.
Then why is there a broad sweeping generalization made of my generation when most people in my generation don't even seem to like it.
 
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