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[VGC] Halo Infinite developer concedes ‘the community is out of patience’
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
GOTY
Stephen Curry
Member
People are mad that the game released in an Alpha state and the "live service" aspect over the next couple years is just adding what Halo 3 and Reach had DAY ONE. It is completely embarrassing.
sendit
Member
Disagree. The single player co-op update will be worth the wait. It will bring Halo Infinite back in to the spotlight it rightly deserves. Additionally, lets not forget about the lighting update in reference to ray tracing that's in the pipelines. Light shines brighter in the darkness. With spring arriving, 343i will show up with blossoming flowers.
NinjaBoiX
Member
I must be so out of touch with multiplayer stuff these days. I’ve heard so many people complain about Halo’s MP, that they aren’t adding enough, or that the battle pass is bullshit.
None of this shit ever even enters my periphery, I just spin it up and have a couple of games every now and then, it’s a really solid, well balanced game imo.
Is it only fun to the passing observer or something?
None of this shit ever even enters my periphery, I just spin it up and have a couple of games every now and then, it’s a really solid, well balanced game imo.
Is it only fun to the passing observer or something?
//DEVIL//
Member
More like most of these staff are just woke and idiots the company was forced to hire for diversity and don’t know shit .
It shouldn’t take this for updates that were supposed to be in the fucking game that was supposed to be released 2 years ago .
Don’t blame the community for your and your fellow blue and purple haired idiots the knowledge and understanding of AAA development.
Go make a flappy bird or whatever and stop bitching.
It shouldn’t take this for updates that were supposed to be in the fucking game that was supposed to be released 2 years ago .
Don’t blame the community for your and your fellow blue and purple haired idiots the knowledge and understanding of AAA development.
Go make a flappy bird or whatever and stop bitching.
Hezekiah
Banned
Do some recruitment and give it to i.d tech.
ZywyPL
Banned
Garbage of the year, yes.
MiguelItUp
Member
I think when people have something positive to say about the gameplay, it's the fact that it captured that classic MP Halo feel in a way that worked. It FELT good. It's why it did so well there for a bit. But after a bit, people noticed the flaws, lack of content, etc. and it went belly up even faster.
This is definitely one of the largest fumbles we've seen with a big, known, and beloved IP. It's just sad because you could see where it was doing some things pretty damn well, but it needed a lot more. Could they bounce back? Totally, and they should. But it's really hard to tell if they will...
This is definitely one of the largest fumbles we've seen with a big, known, and beloved IP. It's just sad because you could see where it was doing some things pretty damn well, but it needed a lot more. Could they bounce back? Totally, and they should. But it's really hard to tell if they will...
Calverz
Member
Halo Infinite developer concedes ‘the community is out of patience’ | VGC
“There’s a lot of work to do and most of it is going to take more time than most want”…www.videogameschronicle.com
Seems like 343 really fumbled the big momentum they had late last year with this game. It was received very well and had a huge player base that seems to have dwindled to nothing.
I think the truth is that the game just came in way too hot and what they got out in time was the best it was gonna be for awhile. I do wonder if season 2 can regain some of the momentum whenever it launches
You do wonder? Have you even played halo infinite?
II_JumPeR_I
Member
It all started with the first flights just being bot testing. That was a big ass red flag in my book and i knew this MP will flop.
The campaign was cool, big improvement over 5 but it was still very lackluster.
The cutscenes got very lazy and samey with this rotation camera style.
No action in this cutscenes, no big wow moments, anything.
Then some stuff was just shown through holograms or explained in audio logs instead of making interesting and cool campaign Missions that will show you this stuff.
The Infinity attack with Atriox could have been the first mission.
The "open world" did not feel like a big ass ring world. This samey biome got boring pretty fast, alongside the copy paste forerunner bases and missions.
With 4+ years of dev time i expected more, way more.
Just wtf is going on in that Studio?
The campaign was cool, big improvement over 5 but it was still very lackluster.
The cutscenes got very lazy and samey with this rotation camera style.
No action in this cutscenes, no big wow moments, anything.
Then some stuff was just shown through holograms or explained in audio logs instead of making interesting and cool campaign Missions that will show you this stuff.
The Infinity attack with Atriox could have been the first mission.
The "open world" did not feel like a big ass ring world. This samey biome got boring pretty fast, alongside the copy paste forerunner bases and missions.
With 4+ years of dev time i expected more, way more.
Just wtf is going on in that Studio?
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Halo Infinite - Steam Charts
An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers, seeing what's been played the most.
The PC shooter competition is to strong.
On console it probably looks better and they can somehow recover if they smash it
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The difference between great multiplayer and bad multiplayer is this:
- "Holy ****, that was fun. Where did the last 3 hours go!? What time are you guys going to be on tomorrow?!"
- "Ok, I've played enough. The last 20 minutes was relatively pleasant. Maybe I'll spin this up again in a few days."
Halo is "solid and well balanced", it's just not remotely vital anymore.
Hari Seldon
Member
I still play the game with friends a few hours each week, I have a blast each time. If I played it more than that I would be out of content. But either way I don't give a shit as I paid $0 for this.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Award winning franchise that’s brought up in small talk all the time.
plasmawave
Banned
An incompetent studio with a history of development hell trying to undertake a GAAS game is truly a match made in hell.
remember_spinal
Banned
Halo Infinite - Steam Charts
An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers, seeing what's been played the most.steamcharts.com
The PC shooter competition is to strong.
On console it probably looks better and they can somehow recover if they smash it
Its a ways out of top 10 on most played on xbox and its dropping more everyday
This is kind of why i think the push for both sony and microsoft into service game sector is a mistake. Theres just way too much competition. Theres only so many people in the world that can dedicate hours and hours into multiple service games
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ResilientBanana
Member
Mechanically the game is fantastic, it just needs slightly more content. The best Halo Multiplayer in years.
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kingpotato
Ask me about my Stream Deck
GoTY yet people only ever discuss it on here to express disappointment and frustration. Kinda seems like people were voting based on what plastic they worship.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Once they decided that they were ok releasing this as an *official* screenshot... All hope of them having any quality standards went out of the window for me.
Hezekiah
Banned
I stopped playing after finishing the campaign, but I was shocked to see how quickly it has slipped down the most played charts.Holy shit down to 27
If things aren't sorted by the end of the year it will be completely swallowed up by the next Modern Warfare, if it hasn't already been by Vanguard etc.
01011001
Banned
Once they decided that they were ok releasing this as an *official* screenshot... All hope of them having any quality standards went out of the window for me.
graphics whore detected.
this is the least of the game's problems. the presentation can be 360 quality for all I care, but the core game systems are so fucked that the game is barely salvageable
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Once they decided that they were ok releasing this as an *official* screenshot... All hope of them having any quality standards went out of the window for me.
Looks a hell of a lot better than Counter Strike, Fortnite, or Minecraft.
treemk
Banned
This is an art design problem more than a graphics problem
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
its both. I have the game, it doesnt look as bad as the screenshot - But the fact that they released that screenshot as a way to get people excited is a joke. They have no clue what quality is... And the more I play the game (and see how they are handling the post launch) just proves me right. Shame. I literally bought a Series X for this game
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That door swings both ways though.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
wah ? when did that happen ? 4 to 5 years between sequels is pretty common, and we already know The Coalition is busy adapting Unreal Engine 5 on the Series consoles with a smaller project coming first. What else will they be adapting the tech over for, a new Gears undoubtedly.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Roman Empire
Member
Even my wheelchair grandma has more momentum than 343
ethomaz
Banned
People will say I'm biased but whatever.
They launched a core gameplay and mechanics that are really good.
But it was unfinished as a game.
Lacking modes, options, maps, basic features, etc etc etc.
Maybe they needed more a year but they were forced to launch in 2021 due already being a delayed game.
Of course they could recover it or in better words finish it with constant update but that is not happening so the fan base is really a bit mad right now.
But hey GAFers or Xbox fans in GAF choose an unfinished game as GOTY so you are part of what is happening now
They launched a core gameplay and mechanics that are really good.
But it was unfinished as a game.
Lacking modes, options, maps, basic features, etc etc etc.
Maybe they needed more a year but they were forced to launch in 2021 due already being a delayed game.
Of course they could recover it or in better words finish it with constant update but that is not happening so the fan base is really a bit mad right now.
But hey GAFers or Xbox fans in GAF choose an unfinished game as GOTY so you are part of what is happening now
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Captain Toad
Banned
Welcome to the GaaS future.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
This GOTY will only become better 
sendit
Member
Scrap 343i. Microsoft now has the dynamic duo of FPS epitome, Infinite Ward and Treyarch. Two development studios who are a master class in FPS design, implementation, and execution. Their portfolio is both diverse and inclusive. Year after year, Call of Duty has remained a household name for gamer's of all ages. The time to act is now, a petition to let Infinite Ward or Treyarch take over Halo.
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
I'll just paste what I wrote in the community thread -
"Motherfuckers had nearly 7 years (by end of S2). Very poorly managed. Period.
Go full open source Halo and watch what the community builds instead."
How long do they want exactly?
There is literally nothing about mod support ever discussed since announcing it. The hubris of this studio never ceases to amaze me. Franchise deserved better for the last 10 years.
"Motherfuckers had nearly 7 years (by end of S2). Very poorly managed. Period.
Go full open source Halo and watch what the community builds instead."
How long do they want exactly?
There is literally nothing about mod support ever discussed since announcing it. The hubris of this studio never ceases to amaze me. Franchise deserved better for the last 10 years.
01011001
Banned
Halo Infinite's playerbase compared to Halo MCC... DURING AN IN-GAME EVENT HAPPENING IN INFINITE BTW!
Halo Infinite gets red numbers during an event, and MCC gets green ones and gains players... while the last content update was months ago at this point.
btw. Halo MCC is a REALLY good product now. 6 completely free battlepasses you can unlock in any order, new skins not in the original games, a few new maps in Halo 3, a fully functional custom game browser and creator + Halo 2A, Halo 3, Halo Reach and Halo 4 all have a fully equipped forge mode, they even improved the forge modes beyond what was possible in the original games as well!
if anyone wants to play Halo, play MCC...
this is also partly why I hope Infinite just dies already, because then every Halo player will go back to MCC, even the few ones that still have this unrealistically optimistic believe that infinite will get better... give up guys! embrace MCC! throw Infinite on the compost where it belongs, slowly decaying until it is forgotten
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
When you're trolling but you're accidentally right. Microsoft has the masters of FPS with id Software
Hari Seldon
Member
Yeah that is probably the right move. I don't want Halo to play like CoD, but I'm sure a CoD studio could make a game that felt like Halo instead of CoD.
Mr.ODST
Member
As a big halo fan, I agree, either of these studios would make an excellent Halo title than 343i, I was involved in competing in Halo Infinite but most of the pros have even quit the game, no new maps in ages, no real new content, every weekly reward is basically a JPEG and no real fixes to any of the issues.
Its a shame because the core gameplay is great
Lognor
Banned
Nah, not going to read this. You're clearly going through something.
Very few would argue that the core gameplay is not fantastic. Because it is. And you saying goty is meaningless further shows shows your bias.
We get it. You don't like the game. The vast majority agree with me that the core gameplay is fantastic. You can leave now because this is a service game that will span many years. We don't need you complaining nonstop. When you can't even agree that the core gameplay is fantastic, I can't bother with you.
I do both. Not sure what you're on about. You don't even play Halo but you know who speaks for it? gtfo
01011001
Banned
you show your bias by not reading my mostly facts based assertion of the game.
it is garbage.
the core gameplay is serviceable at best, and bocked down by some of the worst systems ever seen in a AAA shooter. the netcode alone, which would need to be completely replaced at this point, makes the game trash. you have literally people simultaneously backslapping eachother, meaning the netcode is so bad, it thinks that each player is behind the other and melees them in the back... AT THE SAME TIME...
the desync is so bad, I had a driver yell at me why I'm not shooting people with the Warthog turret, and I had to then exlplain to him that on my screen he is literally driving against a wall with noone on sight. as he exited the Warthog he then got teleported to my location and was confused as fuck.
the aiming on controller is so bad that people hate one of the best guns in the game, the Commando, because it is one of the only guns with barely any aim assist, so people can't aim with it and rather use the pistol or the BR because those basically aim themselves.
the aim assist is a joke in a modern game like that, it was a necessity in games of yesteryear because developers didn't have controller aiming figured out quite yet, so they relied on that to fix it.
Fortnite was also one such game, where there was literally a soft lock-on like in CoD Campaign modes, because their core aiming controls were so dogshit that this was the only way to make it playable. they later completely revamped the aiming controls (which are now really good actually) and removed the soft lock-on.
the maps are devoid of imagination and lack variety in both design and artstyle.
the campaign was without highlights and only had basically 2 styles... grassy woodland and forerunner building... that's it.
the game, clearly designed for coop, launched without coop and coop was further delayed beyond the Season 2 launch, which was the original release target.
forge was delayed as well, possibly releasing during season 3, but I bet it won't.
90% of the classic modes of Halo are missing, and aren't even available in custom games.
the custom game creator is so limited, you can't even reproduce modes made in Halo 2's mode creatore, which was not only more fully featured back in 2004, but also worked! CRAZY! I KNOW!
the game has no player collision and no friendly fire in anything but ranked, which brings a ton of issues with it like nade spam rushing and players wlaking through you, sometimes fuckign up your shots or your nades
I could go on. and most of this is simply stating facts, with a hint of opinion added, but mostly facts
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Lognor
Banned
"Fact based"
"It is garbage"
See, this is why people can't take you seriously. Your hyperbolic nonsense that you claim as "fact"
There is no issue with the netcode. I've played hundreds of matches. No issues. Maybe it's your internet?