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[cormack12]

You know the score, you spawn into the boss room, and you know this is basically just try and whale on the boss for 7-8 minutes, while trying to manage stamina/mana resource, while the boss has big hitting attacks in return. And every hit you land, only does the smallest of top slices from the health bar

 

[vaibhavpisal]

This type of combat is fine once, say for a boss fight.

When devs make common enemies like this it becomes an issue.

Dark Souls etc approach is preferable where common enemies die quickly but can end badly if you act foolish.

 

[RoboFu]

Both irritate me more and more every day. It’s getting to be a ridiculous filler trend. Spider-Man and FF16 are both recent big offenders I’ve played through.

 

[spons]

I can accept it for boss enemies, but normal bullet sponges are the worst, especially if your attacks have zero impact and the entire thing just feels off.

 

[lh032]

the problem is boss NPC ai just isnt smart enough to behave like a "boss", so sponge bosses will be here for a very long time

I remember playing deus ex, and i just use stealth on the final boss to win the fight without a single bullet, that is amazing, no bullet sponges or anything.

 

[Three]

If the boss moveset has enough variety then chip damage makes more sense to experience it all but if it's limited with the same moves over and over then boss chip damage is just as bad as sponge enemies.

 

[Portugeezer]

Dark Souls etc approach is preferable where common enemies die quickly but can end badly if you act foolish.

 

[ReBurn]

Bullet sponge and repeat the pattern QTE both are utterly boring.

 

[Ryuji Goda]

All bossfights are terrible

 

[Zuzu]

I hate bosses that have lots of weaker minions who help them and make it frustrating for you to just fight the boss straight up.

 

[cireza]

Once again a game like Razor's Edge come to mind. No chip damage here, you have to find the window when you can strike, and when you do, you will land meaningful damage.

 

[Aion002]

I don't. The Souls approach that lets you one shot almost everything with the correct build is the best.

Unless, it's part of the spectacle, like in Sekiro, God of War or FFXVI.

Talking about FFXVI , S-E was really smart adding checkpoints between long boss fight stages.

Also, Ubisoft Sucks at this:

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

You know the score, you spawn into the boss room, and you know this is basically just try and whale on the boss for 7-8 minutes, while trying to manage stamina/mana resource, while the boss has big hitting attacks in return. And every hit you land, only does the smallest of top slices from the health bar

Sounds like all the boss fights In the current RoboCop game.

 

[chlorate]

The LASO difficulty on the various Halo:CE remakes is interesting because despite the player facing nearly indestructible Covenant forces with very limited resources, it doesn’t feel like bullet-sponge gameplay, but rather a puzzle that requires excellent Halo fundamentals to solve and nearly perfect execution since death returns you to the start of the chapter.

 

[Fbh]

With bosses at least it felt a bit more contextual, and they can have interesting movesets and mechanics. Also it's this one big fight you generally just have to play through once instead of an annoying spongy enemy you'll constantly run into.

That said, spongy enemies can be enjoyable when the game has good mechanics. Like in Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal there are some spongy bosses but since the game is fast, gives you high mobility and encourages you to move around during the fight it can be fun. It's not like some slower cover shooter where it feels like you spend 15 minutes hiding behind cover emptying clips into the enemy

Also, Ubisoft Sucks at this:

Yeah The Division was absolutely terrible because of this, it's some of the most unrewarding shooting I've encountered in any game. The spongy enemies made your weapons feel like literal peashooters

 

[Neff]

Because if there's quick-thinking strategy involved and enemy patterns to wiggle around, then it's fine.

If you're just circle-strafing idiot AI then it's not.

 

[sigmaZ]

Both irritate me more and more every day. It’s getting to be a ridiculous filler trend. Spider-Man and FF16 are both recent big offenders I’ve played through.

For real both of those games had awful boss fights for the most part (Bahamut gets a pass due to the spectacle and music lol)
The hardest things about the bosses in those games were how numb they made my hands go.

 

[ZVWQP-9B8TM-VH9CT]

I don't know, if I see a boss or enemy takes more than a minute to be killed, I boot up wemod and kill it in two hits.
I finished sekiro massacring every single boss easily and killing the rest enemies with one hit.

 

[sigmaZ]

You know the score, you spawn into the boss room, and you know this is basically just try and whale on the boss for 7-8 minutes, while trying to manage stamina/mana resource, while the boss has big hitting attacks in return. And every hit you land, only does the smallest of top slices from the health bar

For the most part I've always preferred traditional boss fights were this a gimmick you have to repeat a few times to best them. I like Soulsborne stuff too because there's leveling involved.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Playing Arizona Sunshine on my Quest 3 has taught me that one hit kills are the most satisfying. Just hold gun to zombie head and BLAM, next.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Depends on how long they draw it out. If the boss fights end up feeling more like a chore than a fun part of the game, that's probably worse than sponge enemies.

 

[Deerock71]

All bossfights are terrible

 

[ClanOfNone]

I’m definitely tired of hp bloated bosses, especially when they can kill you in 1-3 hits and have multiple stages.
I appreciate that some people enjoy the challenge, but spending an hour plus fighting the same boss to memorize patterns is the anti-fun to me.
It’s why I love From’s multiplayer aspects. If frustration sets in, I can always call in some help.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

I don't. The Souls approach that lets you one shot almost everything with the correct build is the best.

Unless, it's part of the spectacle, like in Sekiro, God of War or FFXVI.

Talking about FFXVI , S-E was really smart adding checkpoints between long boss fight stages.

Also, Ubisoft Sucks at this:

fuck!!, they shoot him in the head more than 15 times and the guy is still alive!!!

Not even S.T.A.L.K.E.R. goes that far.

 

[recursive]

Both irritate me more and more every day. It’s getting to be a ridiculous filler trend. Spider-Man and FF16 are both recent big offenders I’ve played through.

The hour long boss battles in ff16 were too much. Felt like I was watching dbz. "Fucking lol, this is not my final form!"

 

[BouncyFrag]

The bullet sponge boss at the end of the train section in Uncharted 2 comes to mind. Such a fun level until you run into that guy.

 

[YOU PC BRO?!]

This is one of my biggest gripes with the recent GoW games. Even standard enemies can take a while to whittle down.

 

[NightmareFarm]

Bosses are meant to take a lot of hits and it's fine because you dont fight them all the time like you do with regular enemies and they are a lot more difficult so its less mundane and more exciting trying to whittle down that giant health bar whilst trying not to get hit and die.

But there are instances where even bosses can be too spongey for their own good like in Tales of Arise.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

This type of combat is fine once, say for a boss fight.

When devs make common enemies like this it becomes an issue.

Dark Souls etc approach is preferable where common enemies die quickly but can end badly if you act foolish.

/thread

 

[kiphalfton]

Cuz...

- boss is stronk
- player is punk bitch

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

That's not chip damage. Chip damage is when you take a small amount of damage even while blocking.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Don't like bullet spongy multiplayer either(looks at The finals and mw3)

 

[RoboFu]

The hour long boss battles in ff16 were too much. Felt like I was watching dbz. "Fucking lol, this is not my final form!"

I literally stopped play for month after the titan fight(s)

 

[Knightime_X]

If it's a big boss, it's ok.
They're supposed to be tough.

It's annoying when you have to several very tanky bosses in a row who hit like a truck.
I prefer multiple bosses but HP pool isn't that big

Damage sponge enemies that are very rewarding to beat are fine.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

I'm pretty sure that the people who don't like boss fights don't actually like video games.

 

[EverydayBeast]

I have no idea what a sponge enemy is.

 

[Soodanim]

Anyone ever whaled on a boss?

 

[poppabk]

I don't think bullet sponge enemies are automatically crappy but you have to design your game around them. Easy to kill enemies give you the opportunity to be a badass - do some cool slide maneuver while head shotting two guys with akimbo pistols. Not as cool if they are still standing and you have to empty an entire clip each to finish them off.

 

[SmokedMeat]

It’s pretty annoying really. Platinum takes the cake though with their seven colored health bars. Basically your character is shown to be a big pussy that can’t hit for shit.

 

[recursive]

I have no idea what a sponge enemy is.

An enemy that takes numerous hits to kill. Either way too much HP or defense turning the fight into a mindless slog.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

This was a big problem with Tales of Arise.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I have no idea how y'all put up with this stuff. Coming from multiplayer where the issue is completely solved.

 

[justiceiro]

The thing is that bosses can use up to 7 different attacks while at it, meanwhile the common enemy barely uses 2. I don't get tired of the enemy, I get tired of the moves.

 

[mortal]

Yea, I don't think I enjoy fighting sponges either. I much prefer it when enemies pose lethal threats, with exploitable vulnerabilities.

 

[Raven117]

I hate those too…. If not more.

 

[Raven117]

I'm pretty sure that the people who don't like boss fights don't actually like video games.

You would be incorrect.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

One is actively trying to kill you. The other is just in the way.