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Windows Central: Microsoft exploring bringing back catalog to Nintendo and PlayStation
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Badlucktroll
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Apple would rip everyone a new asshole. Watch them buy Valve, make an affordable gaming M series chip that can emulate x86, make the console affordable and icloud integrated, and digital only.
SeriousCrayon
Member
or he's a condescending elitist that can't see the forest through the trees. I think either one would be satisfactory.
Punished Miku
Member
They play the long game. What they see is a post console future at some point. I think everyone does. What their strategy is, is how do we grow or maintain until we get there. I dont think they are looking for an out. They are looking for a bridge to connect to their future they are positioning for. Even if that takes 15 years. But who knows.
SonGoku
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How will 20 years fix cloud streaming limitations beyond internet speed? There are other factors at play beyond just more accesible good internet, to name a couple:
1. Game servers need to be located close to get good response times, even just focusing on the US/EU and ignoring all other markets, is this really feasible, to have enough server farms in every location to guarantee every user would get a good experience?
2. How will servers cope with 50+ million people gaming simultaneously? How will they cope with big game launches? They will either seriously degrade the quality/settings below console experience or add unbearable waiting times, not only the burden on bandwidth but on system resources will be massive.
I know the counter argument for this is technology will advance and servers will get stronger, but so will local hardware a console 20 years from now will get proportionally stronger, so whats changed from today? we are back to the same situation and besides the selling point of Cloud Gaming should be focused on offering better than console experience (settings, resolution and fps) if it wants to replace console so the burden on the servers would be even higher if they start targeting better than consoles settings.
If Cloud gaming will complement consoles/pc its entirely different to target that blue ocean audience that doesn't have consoles and just games from the browsers, phone. So the two can coexist
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3liteDragon
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It already lost most of it when they announced day one PC.
GHG
Gold Member
Banjo64
cumsessed
CosmicComet
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I spit up my drink lol
YeulEmeralda
Member
Fuck off with game streaming I need my mods.
Corpos love it though. More control less freedom.
Corpos love it though. More control less freedom.
AREYOUOKAY?
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Nintendo after they get most of their old Rareware games back and some new Rare games they’ve never gotten before.
Badlucktroll
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I think its over. The announcement will come at any time now. Nadella probably changed his mind about Xbox.
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Varteras
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Nova post, choom!
Banjo64
cumsessed
More likeNintendo after they get most of their old Rareware games back and some new Rare games they’ve never gotten before.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I never realized how utterly worthless consoles were, that releasing a game day one on PC could do them in so easily.
No wonder you guys fear PC gaming. Consoles have zero value.
THE DUCK
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Fact that's not what you said, like I said.
Your words, and I paraphrase as cannot be bothered to find the page it was on is gamepass was the first subscription service.
When proven wrong, shock horror, goal posts got moved.
This thread was not about who was the first sub service. (also Sony wasn't the first sub service either) Nothing was moved at all, the whole point of the discussion I was having was about Microsofts effect on competition if they leave the console hardware space, to jump out and say "PS NOW was the first subscription service" even though it was streaming only and it was crap, doesn't affect this argument at all. You can live in denial I guess if you want. The fact is that MS pushed Sony over the past 15-20 years to change it's entire business plan. Wether it be PS+, streaming services, PSNOW, it's hardware, it's pricing, it's budgets, everything. You take MS away and it would be all different. It's really not rocket science, you and Ass Can don't need to be all sony fanboy defensive about it. Doesn't change that Sony made great choices to compete and has great games.
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Punished Miku
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If they put it on PS4, offer a $10 upgrade to PS5 that makes the downloads always fuck up and give you 2 icons ... I could at least have something to hold on to.
And we all know that means no exclusive haptics.
Starfield overall profitability must be in the bottom of the gutter (dozen of $millions of loss most probably as I doubt it drove any increase at all in gamepass subscriptions and Steam sales sure can not carry alone the budget of game) so I am not surprised, the other solution for MS would be to straigt up downsize Bethesda.
At one point you just cannot escape market reality. Xbox as a hardware seller had a good run I guess (but not really)
At one point you just cannot escape market reality. Xbox as a hardware seller had a good run I guess (but not really)
3liteDragon
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
You’re the one saying day one PC kills consoles.
Now you want to pretend that’s not what you’re saying?
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Mr Reasonable
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The other game is Doom.
I wonder if they're doing a Doom / Eternal double pack? Would that need a separate rating?
bitbydeath
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I’ve brought this up before in next-gen threads and everyone acts like that discussion is voldermort / fight club.
3liteDragon
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Why the flying fuck would I need an Xbox console if their games are playable day one on PC? If PS does the exact same thing with their single-player games, I'll build myself a nice rig to play all of them in the best way possible. There's a reason why Sony's still doing 2-year ports for their SP games, they're not stupid.
Gamerguy84
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Had Quest 2 on a little while ago and ran into an offer to try xbox gamepass via cloud of course. They are like a High school boy trying to get some and will put it anywhere.
It's flat screen and didn't try it but was surprised to see it there.
It's flat screen and didn't try it but was surprised to see it there.
Skifi28
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THE DUCK
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Some in this thread have been suggesting it won't matter since everyone will just buy PC. But this is flawed, PC will never replace console.
There is a huge section of the market that has neither the time, patience, or know how to operate a PC for gaming. This gen for PS5/Series is going to see well over 100 million units sold, and Nintendo is likely to sell another 100 million of switch 2.
It's not going anywhere. So while it may be some people's preference to go PC, the mass casual gaming market doesn't care.
There is a huge section of the market that has neither the time, patience, or know how to operate a PC for gaming. This gen for PS5/Series is going to see well over 100 million units sold, and Nintendo is likely to sell another 100 million of switch 2.
It's not going anywhere. So while it may be some people's preference to go PC, the mass casual gaming market doesn't care.
MAX PAYMENT
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This seems most accurate, to me.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I would assume it’s because they’re a lot less money, and according to console players - plug and play?
Apparently not.
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SmokedMeat
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I’m not being edgy. I’m just surprised that PC is so powerful that day and date ports render consoles pointless.
Apparently that’s why Xbox failed. I see it pretty often around here.
mayham2199
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100%. I have a gaming PC and I don't use it. Gaming on a PC is not that same. I gave up after having Xbox controller disconnects. Bought a new controller and adapter and it worked great for a month and then happened again. Took 25 mins to fix. Happened about a month later. Shutdown my PC and haven't been back.
I work in IT and do TSing all the time. Not trying to spend my time at home doing it as well just to play games.
UltimaKilo
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Their strategy is a slow burn. Capture people from Windows who while they want a Mac, they stay on Windows because of video games. One less barrier to entry to MACOSX and iPadOS.
mayham2199
Member
I think it's combination of that and just losing faith in the brand. MS hasn't been delivering for a long time now. It was only a matter of time until they felt the backlash from that.
HeWhoWalks
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A sub service they would have been fine without if Xbox wasn’t there.
Moridianae
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I'm not quite sure what to make of all this, really.
I still don't expect Halo or anything(at this point) but I'm beginning to seriously wonder if Starfield will show up.
I still don't expect Halo or anything(at this point) but I'm beginning to seriously wonder if Starfield will show up.
Fox Mulder
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Something old like the Master Chief Collection would sell well on the PlayStation and is just Gamepass catalog at this point.
I like the Xbox and have Gamepass, but they already put games on PC day one. Putting big franchises on the PlayStation isn’t that different and would add more people to play with and make money. Putting Forza Horizon on PlayStation would nuke stuff like NFS and The Crew.
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Monkfish877
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Hope Samsung or someone else enters the console market if MS goes third party. Don't want Sony to have the enthusiast console space to themselves.
akaFullmetal
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Getting closer and closer to that 3rd party status. If they get game pass on everything then I see it happening.
Angry_Megalodon
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I heard something similar about Stadia. How did that turn out?
Mega corporations with zero gaming pedigree have no business in the gaming industry. That's reality. Microsoft has been around for 3 generations, they have more money than God and are still struggling. You need to produce great games and that takes time (plenty) and talent (even more). Throwing money left and right doesn't cut it.
The likes of Amazon, Netflix or Apple are no competition for Sony or Nintendo.
digoutyoursoul
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digoutyoursoul
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It keeps getting stated that sales of the hardware are weak. Ok. If that’s accurate then who is responsible for it failing behind the other consoles and to be in the position?
No fellow Xbox guys seem to be getting to the route of this.
The same people have failed so they go this route or something like that and the narrative is that Xbox as a console simply can’t compete and that’s that. But why?
Surely that should bring into question could a different leadership team and product management do a better job?
Badlucktroll
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Microsoft go third party xbox be like
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digoutyoursoul
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Bring back Atari !! (Maybe not)
Yeah the vanishing of Xbox hardware presence is now accelerating.
By EoY it will be in absolute shambles, nothing can stop it now.
Both All exclusives on PC day one as well as gamepass will be remembered as two of the most massive strategic failures of the tech industry in the years to come, and will be teached in business schools all over the world in lessons labelled akin to "How to devaluate your brand faster than light"
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