Dackelbein
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Same for me, PS5 and this one for Forza 8 & HorizonLove the price. This will be my little Forza box.
Same for me, PS5 and this one for Forza 8 & HorizonLove the price. This will be my little Forza box.
The loyal customer is a myth. Most people bought a PS4 last gen because it was cheaper.For an ERP of £250/$299, The Xbox Series S offers a really great deal for people planning to upgrade this year.
Make what you will of the rumoured 4TFs it holds, but the Series S if the full leaked video is anything to go by, offers support for 120FPS at 1440p, 4K upscaling for games, 4K media playback, support for DirectX raytracing, and a custom NVME 512GB SSD.
That is a great deal for £250, they're obviously planning to make up losses with this by it being discless, but this means for many people, Next Gen is not so unaffordable on launch, I mean this will retail for the same price as you can get a PS4 Slim on Argos on it's own atm, so it to me anyway, screams of great pricing.
Now obviously Sony will have to respond, they love to undercut/rival competitors price wise so I can see them retailing the PS5 Digital Edition for around £300 which would offer them a bit more leeway with customers, as despite how beloved Sony are and the vast majority of people want to get a PS5 over an Xbox Series X, this Series S will appeal to almost every casual buyer and parent as the affordable way to entertain for many years to come.
Me personally? I will be getting this and a PS5 as this means I can experience Gamepass and all it has to offer for a very affordable price, whilst still getting my preferred choice down the line in the PS5 (when HZD II comes out will be when I pounce).
Likely as Xbox did a wet tissue paper style announcement in response to leaks.Weird, how this isn't even trending on twitter.
It is.Weird, how this isn't even trending on twitter.
The digital will most likely be the $499 version. This is the version Sony wants you to buy. The disc version isn't just the Digital with a disc slot. The body is shaped different and it even ships with a different base. Sony will likely price these around $549.Digital is their only way of getting close to this pricepoint, but it still won't be quite there.
Ideally I would like to keep my TV (Panasonic Plasma) another 2-3 year. The series S sounds like a good way to bridge that gap. I can play some older games through gamepass and new releases like Yakuza 7 and Cyberpunk 2077 with up scaled graphics, better framerate and hopefully with a lot less noise than on my PS4 Pro.yup if anyone is hesitant about getting a new TV or just doesn't wanna then this will be perfect. £250 and you've got yourself a next gen console. crazy good value.
The digital will most likely be the $499 version. This is the version Sony wants you to buy. The disc version isn't just the Digital with a disc slot. The body is shaped different and it even ships with a different base. Sony will likely price these around $549.
Everyone is convinced that the PS5 will have some ultra exotic/ ultra expensive cooling solution. Is that true? Who knows? But we will learn a lot soon.What's this based on? Why do we expect that the PS5 will cost more than XSX
Everyone is convinced that the PS5 will have some ultra exotic/ ultra expensive cooling solution. Is that true? Who knows? But we will learn a lot soon.
Only 512gb of storage is a big mistake. Modern warfare is 200gb by itself, if Cold war is close to that in size, then people are going to need to upgrade storage when they buy this thing.
If there was one component not to skimp on it's storage.
Looking at you too Sony.
One of the reasons modern games are so big is the slow speed of HDDs. You have to place the same assets many times across the drive so you can access them in the game engine at the time you need them.
With much much faster memory to access (the new SSDs) you don't need to do this as you pull up the assets you need so much quicker.
Game installs should be getting far more efficient and stop us from seeing larger installs than now and perhaps smaller installs.
There are articles about this and I'm sure both Sony and MS are working hard to find ways to reduce install sizes.
All digital console with a tiny storage capacity. I already think the 840 something SSD for the discless PS5 is too small.
Craig won.
Yes cous it while save all your games in the Cloud...and all your games run directly from the Cloud..."streaming" (Gamepass) consoleWait what, all digital but only 512 GByte SSD?
What will remain after reserving space for OS/UI? About 400GB or even less?
Xbox One reserves 138GB for OS
I was literally just thinking about that GIF and realizing how the meaning of it changed with the current contextIn the end, there really was no need to be upset.
Only 512gb of storage is a big mistake. Modern warfare is 200gb by itself, if Cold war is close to that in size, then people are going to need to upgrade storage when they buy this thing.
512GB, 4TFLOP, 10GB RAM for 300€? Not even a disc drive for the "most compatible console ever" (don't even think about playing your old OG XBOX, 360 or One discs. Such a scam.
Welcome to 2010 again.
MW is 100gb on Xbox, and that's everything... campaign, MP, Spec Ops and Warzone.
Your point stands though. 512gb is light, and will involve some shuffling. But it's no big deal. I reckon I rotate 2 or 3 big games at a time, and it's something people can live with for 250 quid.
512GB, 4TFLOP, 10GB RAM for 300€? Not even a disc drive for the "most compatible console ever" (don't even think about playing your old OG XBOX, 360 or One discs. Such a scam.
Welcome to 2010 again.
By that time (PS6 and Xbox whatever) wil be all digital cous in 6-7 years in the future the internet will be good enough for most people that streaming games will be running nearly perfectSo what happens next gen when there are only discless models? Do you give up gaming?
I don't know how many generations I’ve heard the “internet of the future will be good enough” argument and it never is.By that time (PS6 and Xbox whatever) wil be all digital cous in 6-7 years in the future the internet will be good enough for most people that streaming games will be running nearly perfect
512 gb too to reach this price point ?
even if it's cheaper now ssd comes at a cost.
no bd player is bad move imo (and it kills half the messaging so far)
Can't disagree. I mean I hope I'm not that stupid, me, you most people on this forum are enthusiasts XboxS is not targeting 90% of this forum population.
Microsoft strategy is to go after middle-level gamers. These are people who don't quite game on mobile phones but are also not chasing mega-trends and obsess about next gen tech like ray tracing. It's not that transparent.
However even if I remove myself from the equation I wonder how truly big this market really is? Because we know that more young people just game on handhelds or phones. Xbox isn't chasing that as Series S is not portable. Older generations and poeple with some money can easily justify spending 1-2k on getting an entry level TCL 4k HDR TV and pay a 200$ premium for a full-blown next-gen console. I don't want to derail this thread because we have a separate discussion on Gamepass but clearly both GP and XS are targeting the same value-prop market. The question is: does this niche even exist, can you move people into that niche and how much profit can you get out of it?
The doubt comes from the fact that here we're debating 200$ discount on a console that should last a generation yet people are conditioned to spend 100s of dollars on microtransactions, full-games cost 100$ now (I take AC Valhalla Gold Edition), people have no qualms to raid stores for new Zelda and Mario for full price. Compared to that is there really a value in saving 200$ to get a smaller console and is 15$ a month a good subscription proposition for you target audience (as all MS exclusives will go there) considering AAA games like AC, FIFA, Madden - all mass-market franchises will not go on GP and will certainly look considerably better on a console worth 2 full-prices games more?
I don't have answers and I'm interested to see the answer but right now that market niche is not appearing as clear to me as Xbox Execs.
don't change part of the messaging is play 4 generations of xbox gamesOut of all of my friends, I am the only one who actually still buys physical movies. They all either rent/buy through a streaming service or just wait for the movie to come onto the streaming services they subscribe to. The lack of a BD player is not a big deal for many people.
4 tflops.
512 GB digital only console.
Knocked it out of the park.
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