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XCOM 2 Review thread
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"mmmm" was the first thing to come to mind when I read that, haha.
That's a good title.
Yeah, that comment is weird. Shockingly, not all reviews in the world are meant to come from the same perspective.
It was so front and center in the first game that it was actually to the detriment of the KB/M controls, which are probably the primary method TBS fans on PC play games. I guess they wanted to avoid a similar scenario (and if so, I support that).
on the one side I get that
on the other, the game is so slow and methodic and you play it for so many hours that as a fan of the originals I loved the gamepad controls and they ended up feeling like an actual improvement in terms of giving me the same control while layin in bed chillin
i'll commit and sit at my desk, but im less likely to put the same amount of hours in one sitting without straining
and I probably laughed at the idea of using a gamepad when the game was first revealed
CosmicQueso
Member
Yeah, no shit. But the speculated reason that shady code sites are cheaper is because you can't refund them through STEAM is complete nonsense.
SplitYourInfinities
Member
Is GMG considered shady? Because i bought the game there.
GMG shows the source of keys, if it shows the publisher/dev then it's perfectly fine
a lot of Uplay keys are from resellers i heard
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I think you misunderstood that poster. They're not saying that. They're saying the only way to get it discounted is through 3rd party seller where you can't do a steam refund.
Psychoward
Banned
Tell me where I said that? They're cheaper because they make their profit through selling keys.
Doomedfool
Member
Looking good! Yay!
I'm currently playing through AC: Revelations (don't judge me
), so I need to try and have it finished by Friday, or I probably never will.
I'm currently playing through AC: Revelations (don't judge me
), so I need to try and have it finished by Friday, or I probably never will.
Pheace
Member
Yeah, if it says "Authorized distributor", that means they can't say where it's actually from. It certainly isn't from a direct relationship with the developer in those cases.
If it lists dev/publisher it should be fine.
So can anyone comment on whether or not the KB/M controls and UI were actually improved or is it still geared towards controllers? For example, switching targets when aiming in the behind-the-back viewpoint was natual with a controller but it felt needlessly fiddly with a mouse.
The game doesn't natively support controllers so I'd assume it was built with KB+M in mind.
Yeah, that's the hope. But the video and screens I've seen are still very similar to the last game. I'd like to know for sure if significant tweaks were made.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I'm considering doing CDKeys again, but the last time I did it and I used my bank card (since I don't have Paypal) and they froze my card (got it unfrozen because they decided to tell me it was frozen in a letter, which I got after I unfroze the card). I'm actually thinking of just spending the $10 extra on GMG for the VIP price to get it from the actual source (which is 2K through GMG at this point). I'm really not sure lol.
Exactly, to each his/her own. Like I said, I don't think anyone cares. I didn't care when my best friend used the Konami code to get 239 lives in Contra in 1988; I certainly don't care if random GAF member abuses the save system in 2016
This is my concern as well. For all the talk of being built from the ground up for PC, it doesn't look very different or especially PC-friendly. Not PC unfriendly, either, but yeah.
I gave it a 9, review is in Dutch tough:
http://www.xgn.nl/review/xcom-2-review
My only problem is the graphical department (the graphics itself, not the style) and design of the buildings, which is in my opinion a tad boring. Other than that: a perfect sequel!
http://www.xgn.nl/review/xcom-2-review
My only problem is the graphical department (the graphics itself, not the style) and design of the buildings, which is in my opinion a tad boring. Other than that: a perfect sequel!
Xplatformer
Member
Seriously, it shouldn't be a big deal. I thought it would be so i went back and played Enemy Unknown with Kb/mouse. It's just as fun. If you were expecting to play this on your couch I feel bad that you won't be able to.
Getting this a week after release.
Yeah I'm not sure a lot changed structurally, just seems to be in sheer number. One of the classes can have what, 14 different abilities? And most are active? And I think everyone winds up with quite a few more pretty quickly. That's the only thing I can really assume they mean. And I guess the world map being a bit more busy.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I dunno, much of the UI was designed with controllers in mind. The KB/M controls aren't as intuitive as something like Divinity: Original Sin (which added controller support long after release, complete with a full UI rework). Choosing targets in particular would be more effective if you could just click on them from the isometric view instead of having the camera zoom to the behind-the-back view every time.
A bunch of little things like that got me to switch to a controller and I was much happier.
TimeEffect
Member
What were sales like for the first game?
I am especially shocked at how they are integrating the Long War mod.
I really hope that they exceed expectations.
I am especially shocked at how they are integrating the Long War mod.
I really hope that they exceed expectations.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I meant for the controls. I'm not expecting (nor do I want) big changes for a sequel to XCOM.
No he didn't. They are pretty clear on where the negatives come from, and they explicitly mention that they aren't knocking the game for the chance to miss on it's own.
Don't let that stop you from dismissing the review with the "lulz" though.
I do not like playing at a desk, and prefer playing on my couch computer when I can. It seems like a silly thing to remove this from the game whe nit was already in a previous iteration (and worked incredibly well).
ebullientprism
Member
Thing is though (from what I have seen so far) the UI still doesnt look like it was designed with only a Mouse and Keyboard in mind. It could easily be tweaked a little to fit the gamepad. And I bet money there is a console version out in a few months.
Psychoward
Banned
The console versions sold like shit and 2 won't have mod support behind it on consoles which is one of the huge selling points of 2. I say this as someone who played EU on both 360 and pc and preferred the game pad controls, I wouldn't even put a dollar on the line that this comes to ps4 and xbone.
This is spot on.
Seriously, this gif needs to be in the OP.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Fucking hell :lol
ebullientprism
Member
None of that has anything to do with my point. Regardless of how much the first one sold, there will still be a console version of this game. That will obviously be using a gamepad. The game's UI looks like it could easily function with a gamepad. So it should have had gamepad support.
Modding is no excuse either. Bethesda's games are the most modded games on Steam, they all ship with X360 controller support.
I really hope it gets patched in sometime soon. I would rather play this on my TV-HTPC with a controller than on the gaming PC.
#sorrynotsorry
Member
The vast majority of players will never download a mod. I have 400 hours of Civ without ever downloading one mod. It's not a huge selling point for most.
I'd wager the people who want it on console won't miss mod support of all things.
I'm buying this on PC by the way. But I'd rather play on Xbox. That's where my friends are.
Steam Spy has it above 3 million.
Steam Workshop is a huge success in many games, and this will be another one.
Your case is not the rule.
Long War was such a big thing on PC though. And they're giving people pretty much everything so there's probably gonna be big conversion mods here too.
The console version isn't guaranteed yet. The devs said it's not in consideration right now.
The gamepad controls and UI were limiting them in the first game and they didn't want that limitation in this game. Hence KBM.
You can still play it on your TV. Get a wireless mouse thing or a steam controller. I personally recommend the steam controller as it's super versatile and I love it.
Psychoward
Banned
Why would they bother releasing a sequel to a game on platforms where it sold like shit? Why are you convinced that it's coming?
Look yeah the UI doesn't look too complex for controller support but I'm sure you'll have non native support soon and/or they'll patch it soon for controller support.
I'm not so sure. If the game does very well on PC, 2K may want to develop more content for this version rather than port it to consoles.
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ebullientprism
Member
I genuinely have a hard time believing either of those things. There is no way in hell this is skipping the consoles. And that UI doesnt look like it was designed to only work with a mouse and keyboard. Its not like they build it from the ground up, its a slightly altered version of the last game's interface.
All of that sounds like lip service to hardcore PC gamers.
GrantDaNasty
Member
*shrug* Sorry. I'll try to be more stern and about-face when discussing reviews of video games.