lovely ladies
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Um, what happens if I don't have the original installed, am I shit out of luck? Or is there a separate original and update file when I redownload.
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BEWARE THE LATEST GTA SAN ANDREAS STEAM UPDATE !!!11!!
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Syphon Filter
Member
The retail version had securom so maybe that was a mistake?
Windows Registry
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SecuROM
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\SecuROM
You need to start a new gameI was already about 20 hours into my first playthrough...
I really hate that steam forces you to update games. I work away for months at a time and have to make sure steam is offline otherwise any of my games that ask for an update become unplayable. Even a simple integrity check for a game causing me trouble will lock me out of a huge number or games and I can't download 5gig updates with an hour or two in starbucks(my workplace has internet at 300mb for $20...)
This is something I really hope steam addresses in the future. Forced updates suck.
Bingo, you can no longer opt out of any updates on Steam. Valve even changed the wording of the client option (for ALL games, not just this one) to say "Only update this game when I launch it", rather than something like "Do not keep this game up to date."
They used to have a dialog box that let you opt out of updates:
You could choose "Launch Now" if an update was queued but not yet downloaded. Now you can't even do that anymore. I assume the only option is manually backing up game files and trying to restore them after the Steam update finishes.
Syphon Filter
Member
I don't see it, i guess it was a mistake.
MrCunningham
Member
I have my doubts that anyone would want to pirate this version anyway.
Great that they have already patched this. But I was just showing what the new options look like for those who are curious. It is interesting that my highest resolution option is a 16:10 aspect ratio, maybe it has something to do with me having a 16:9 and a 16:10 monitor plugged into my system? And it is detecting the max 16:9 resolution as 1280:720 and my max 16:10 resolution as 1680:1050?
unknownhero
Member
HA! the right thumbstick won't turn the camera while on foot for me. gg R*
SerTapTap
Member
I thought this would be
A) a broken patch
B) an overreaction
C) the mobile version
But...this is some shit right here.They added controller support and everything else is fucked up. I know music licensing is shit, but I didn't think it'd even be possible/necessary for them to remove music from an already released game in a manner such as this. And the resolution thing is baffling.
A) a broken patch
B) an overreaction
C) the mobile version
But...this is some shit right here.They added controller support and everything else is fucked up. I know music licensing is shit, but I didn't think it'd even be possible/necessary for them to remove music from an already released game in a manner such as this. And the resolution thing is baffling.
What's sad is that this patch isn't so much a planned patch, but a quick release. SilentPatch is trying to fix many of the issues the PC version has, and the issue of this patch more or less forced him to simply work with a newer executable aimed to still offer these fixes. That man has arguably turned every PS2 era PC GTA release from passable to being the definitive versions, which you couldn't even say about GTA III and VC just two or so years ago. When he's done with San Andreas, one will probably never be able to argue between the PS2 or PC release. Even today, you can make major arguments against the PC version to go with the console version, and that just goes to show how bad the PC version is under the hood. The PC versions were so lazily done by Rockstar, actual assets are missing from the base game, and the game has less animations than the PS2 version did. III, VC, and SA all suffer from this.
To show you how poor the PC version is, if you crash into any vehicle, the vehicle simply takes damage in the spot where you car takes damage. That means if you hit the back of a car with the front of your car, the car you hit will only take damage in the front, not the back. The PC version is fucking bathed in these types of oddities.
Music rights aren't signed away for eternity with videogames. You just didn't notice it much before because games usually were only sold for ~4-5 years.
With digital, games never run out of stock, and now actually are outliving the music contract lifespans.
It's not, that has always been there
http://web.archive.org/web/20140702080939/http://store.steampowered.com/app/12120/
No it doesn't.. They could have just removed them for new purchases and let old buyers keep tracks. It's exactly what they did with Vice City.
I recommend anybody with a Steam copy to write a review addressing the issue of the patch, and how it's taken away from the full experience of the game.
I've already done my part
Also, I'm somewhat nervous about my current Steam GTA titles. If they managed to remove content in a single patch just like that, then what's to stop them from doing it again in the future to different GTA installments when they can no longer hold or obtain certain licenses?
It's absolutely wrong. All they had to do was prevent new buyers from purchasing the game with the songs that could not be licensed again. This could have been done by releasing the 'HD San Andreas' and prohibiting the original from being sold. Taking away content from users that have already paid for it is just horrible.
I've already done my part
Also, I'm somewhat nervous about my current Steam GTA titles. If they managed to remove content in a single patch just like that, then what's to stop them from doing it again in the future to different GTA installments when they can no longer hold or obtain certain licenses?
It's absolutely wrong. All they had to do was prevent new buyers from purchasing the game with the songs that could not be licensed again. This could have been done by releasing the 'HD San Andreas' and prohibiting the original from being sold. Taking away content from users that have already paid for it is just horrible.
MrCunningham
Member
Is this a new problem with the car damage? Because I don't remember it being like that before. Maybe it was? But this port is perplexing.
Using the "framerate limiter" option locked the game to 26FPS. That true cinematic PS2 experience!
Granted, this can be unlocked, but still.
I've no idea, as this is an issue that also affects the PC fan remake of Vice City Stories, so it has to do with something in the base game of San Andreas, as the remake requires you to have that for PC. I literally stayed away from the PC versions because I knew they had issues, and I only got into them this past summer. San Andreas - without the patch posted about earlier - doesn't even have alpha blending for helicopter blades. It was a phoned in port.
SecuROM has always been mentioned on the store page. I didn't look at the sys reqs but rather the legalese section, haha.
Much appreciated. One less thing that is horribly wrong is still one less thing so I'm glad to hear.
DryvBy
Member
Well this is that digital future some of you have been campaigning for. This is exactly why I never will go full digi. And also why I made a rule to never spend more than $20 max on a title that's distributed this way. That way if I get ripped off, it doesn't sting as bad.
If you want the old copy that isn't patched with this, here.
Steam needs a way to opt out of updates. If I want to play version 1.0 of a game, I should be able to.
If you want the old copy that isn't patched with this, here.
Steam needs a way to opt out of updates. If I want to play version 1.0 of a game, I should be able to.
LOLCats
Banned
Omfg parity. New thread.
That was possible to a degree, as Blizzard explains above. But R* could have gone about this differently such that those who'd bought the game earlier would have retained all original music, which is precisely what happened with Vice City as detailed on the previous page. Valve stepping away from the ability to skip detected updates (provided they were queued) is bizarre and unfortunate, but R* isn't blameless here, either.
fucking lol if you think you actually own your digital content
SoulUnison
Banned
Grand Theft Auto isn't a "service," and it definitely isn't a "subscription."
You shouldn't be able to retroactively remove content from a customer's purchase because the legal situation has changed for the company that did the selling however long ago.
That's absolutely bullshit and sets a really dangerous precedent.
Imagine if they patched a character out of Marvel VS Capcom r something, because of licensing deals?
I was waiting on GTA 5 to hit PC before I picked it up (that and for the heists to actually get some sort of release,) but I'll be skipping it and whatever future titles Rockstar has in the pipeline if I can't even feel guaranteed that the game I buy is the game I'll keep.
You shouldn't be able to retroactively remove content from a customer's purchase because the legal situation has changed for the company that did the selling however long ago.
That's absolutely bullshit and sets a really dangerous precedent.
Imagine if they patched a character out of Marvel VS Capcom r something, because of licensing deals?
I was waiting on GTA 5 to hit PC before I picked it up (that and for the heists to actually get some sort of release,) but I'll be skipping it and whatever future titles Rockstar has in the pipeline if I can't even feel guaranteed that the game I buy is the game I'll keep.
Not a nice way of saying it but sadly its true.
We have a licence to use the game and there are enough caveats on that licence they can revoke pretty much what they want. Need to read those EULAs.
Syphon Filter
Member
its not on psn anymore,got taken down.
I'm under the impression that the Vice City thing was accomplished by making a new store entry for Vice City.
Whereas San Andreas is re-using the same store entry, and since they're also adding functionality, they would have to branch San Andreas into two separate versions, and they'd have to somehow limit being able to roll back to older San Andreas to existing users, which Steam doesn't support. If they allowed new purchasers to roll back, they'd be in violation of contract.
So it appears it's a combination of the Steam tools available, Valve's indifference, and Rockstar's internal legacy sustain budget.
Whereas San Andreas is re-using the same store entry, and since they're also adding functionality, they would have to branch San Andreas into two separate versions, and they'd have to somehow limit being able to roll back to older San Andreas to existing users, which Steam doesn't support. If they allowed new purchasers to roll back, they'd be in violation of contract.
So it appears it's a combination of the Steam tools available, Valve's indifference, and Rockstar's internal legacy sustain budget.
I feel that even if they realized their 'mistake' it'd be too late to change it. Since they've already removed the content, they can't redistribute it legally and patch it back in, so they've really put themselves in a hole if this was an accident.
What R* did was branch off Vice City's modified music selection into a new data depot and add it to new, replacement store packages (the apps didn't change -- there's still only two of them [Win and Mac]). There's absolutely no reason why this approach couldn't have been applied to San Andreas also.
Edit: Also, Steam doesn't support update rollbacks unless the publisher makes the earlier builds available as separate public branches, which is almost never the case. The only example that comes to mind off the top of my head is Thi4f:
Code:
[URL="https://steamdb.info/app/239160/depots/"][B]Name[/B] [B]Build ID[/B] [B]Password?[/B]
version_1.0 196230 No
version_1.1 200817 No
version_1.2 207894 No
version_1.3 215035 No
version_1.4 225732 No
version_1.5 276618 No
version_1.6 352324 No[/URL]It's still available on the US PSN but it seems to have been taken off Amazon's digital PS3 library so it probably isn't there much longer.
abracadaver
Member
Why no steam achievements?
Probably because R* doesn't want to add them. It had no choice on the X360 as achievement support is a certification requirement.
Phreakuency
Banned
Because you'd earn them only to have them patched out next week.
who said digital is the future of gaming?
No thanks... i want to keep everything in the game i paid for.
I imagine in 15 more years individual artists who worked on game assets are going to "Licence" their work.... then youll see games being stripped of texture work or whole models because those licences are expired... jesus christ.
No thanks... i want to keep everything in the game i paid for.
I imagine in 15 more years individual artists who worked on game assets are going to "Licence" their work.... then youll see games being stripped of texture work or whole models because those licences are expired... jesus christ.
IdreamofHIME
Member
WTF, how can they patch something you already own to remove something like this?
I smell a lawsuit.
I smell a lawsuit.
AuthenticM
Member
Yeah, fuck that.
MrCunningham
Member
Just coming back to this post again. It looks like the right thumb stick won't work unless you enable the gamepad option. I think leaving the option to "keyboard and mouse" just leaves the gamepad in some legacy mode. Which is why the right analogue stick won't work. Also if both analogue sticks work but none of the action buttons do, you might want to reset the controls to default.
Also it seems like anti aliasing can only be changed while in game, which is odd.
HarryDemeanor
Member
You gotta be kidding me.
unknownhero
Member
Why are people trying to spin this into some kind of anti-digital shit? This is just Rockstar fucking up, they had to do the same thing in the past with Vice City and they let people who already owned it keep the original music, who knows why they didn't do that again.