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Halo 5: Guardians |OT2| All Hail The Conquering Hero

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Outrun

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Really there's just only so much the MM system can do.

It can't account for people playing at a level significantly higher or significantly lower than usual, whether or not players communicate with each other or for someone quitting or going afk (until after the event when a ban occurs). It can't account for other things either such as internet disconnects or whatever the case may be.

All it can really do is put players of similar rank and location together. Hopefully 343 can alleviate some of the communication problems by matching parties vs parties and solo players vs other solo players but how can they honestly expect to fix the rest?

All in all the ranking system does a really good job of finding close matches though from what I've seen. This is based on my 400ish arena matches so far.

This.

Waypoint is full of individuals claiming to have MM figured out.

As you mention it is not that easy. Having a lower ranked person who is playing out of their mind beat you or vice versa may not be a function of poor MM...
 

E92 M3

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Not really.

If you get matched up against players of similar skill yet play poorly or significantly worse than usual you're gonna have a rough time.

Your player skill is constantly changing even as often as game to game. This is why blowouts happen even when MM works correctly.

Of course, I am talking about the overall experience. Everyone has bad experiences.
 

BraXzy

Member
Anyone managed to snag some sweet Black Friday bargains this year? I'd have got the collector's edition H5 if I was in the US.
 

Detective

Member
I've bought the Xbox halo edition at launch day for 500 dollars.
Today it cost 300 dollars. I went to the store and they gave me back the 200 dollars with pleasure :p

Black Friday :D
 

Leyasu

Banned
I assumed that's because it creates bad juju with their ranking system.
But does it though? And why did josh Holmes say before launch that the game would automatically connect us to the closest datacenter? Last week I had whom sessions with even, rapid matchmaking, that connected to the closest datacenter. Yet tho week it has been hit and miss.

As they refuse to let us select the datacenter, they need to patch in a ping selector. Where we set the ping limit.

That would remove 99% of the posts complaining on here as well.
 

arimanius

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Guys, guys, guys.... I'm Spartan Charging in!

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I'll see you all soon :)

Congrats man. Multiplayer is a blast.
 
"They shot at his face! His greatest weakness."

The grunts are hilarious again.

With IWHBYD on at the first major open encounter in Blue Team (where you ground pound in), the Grunts will occasionally say "Humans always aim for the head, wave your arms around to confuse them!"
 
Ruble Rockets is a stupid mode. At least I got my Rocket Commendation complete.

I agree. I get that some folks like to play with power weapons because the draw of the one shot kill is strong, but I'd rather have had a dedicated CTF playlist so I knew that EVERYONE that was playing it actually WANTED to play CTF and would try to do it right.
 
Astro A40 + M80 Mixer H5:G Edition is on sale this weekend for $176 (20% off) before tax and shipping. Makes the price a bit more palatable compared to the sales of $150 for the regular XB1 edition of the same product.
 

Toa TAK

Banned
Rumble Rockets is fun. It's nice to have a little playlist where you're allowed to go balls out and just chill. I feel like 5 is missing playlists like these where your friends can jump into a sorta Halo "lite" playlist and go at it for shits and giggles.
 

Raide

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Rumble Rockets is fun. It's nice to have a little playlist where you're allowed to go balls out and just chill. I feel like 5 is missing playlists like these where your friends can jump into a sorta Halo "lite" playlist and go at it for shits and giggles.

Yes its nice to have a non-serious mode. With all the pro SWAT stuff, its nice to have a crazy mode of fun once in a while.
 

I am on the East Coast and get that sometimes. What is odd, is in Warzone (and once in Arena) when I am lagging sometimes my friends won't be (we live in the same area and same ISP). But when I wasn't lagging one of them sometimes would be. It sometimes manifests differently for me in Arena then it does Warzone (teleporting in Warzone, exactly like your videos). In Arena it mainly manifests as head shots not detecting correctly (the shots usually count but do not provide the Headshot Damage Multiplier when the enemy is 1-shot), primarily the Magnum and BR, and getting shot around corners.
 

Glass

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Still having such a blast with BTB, there's not a map or mode I'm not enjoying. Only thing I'm not sure on is BR starts, never has using a warthog been so perilous.

Also I can't bring myself to buy Bronze packs for commons anymore, pack after pack of no new unlocks, back to silvers for me.
 

Detective

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Man... It's really sad to see Halo falls back to number 11 in most played games.
COD
Fallout
Fifa
GTA
Destiny
BF
NBA
Minecraft
Madden
Rainbow Six beta

Aaaaaannnd and Halo 5.

What gives?? :/
 
Man... It's really sad to see Halo falls back to number 11 in most played games.
COD
Fallout
Fifa
GTA
Destiny
BF
NBA
Minecraft
Madden
Rainbow Six beta

Aaaaaannnd and Halo 5.

What gives?? :/
rainbow is in open beta so a ton of people will be playing that no questions, destiny has the casual crowd by the neck, fallout is fallout, gta is gta, fifa is huge in europe, madden is madden and NBA I guess is big in the US?

Halo 5 is a good game but it lacks the pulling power for the casual group even with warzone and it's req cards, it has no firefight for a start nor does it have infection that was a game type everyone voted for in reach to the point where they made a dedicated infection hopper for it, it's that popular.
 

Strider

Member
I would assume Halo 5 moves up during peak hours in the US.

But I mean... Halo isn't as big as it used to be. Never will be again. Nothing "gives" really... Just the casual crowd has moved on along with a bunch of the hardcores that left the game behind because of Reach, H4 and most recently MCC
 

Glass

Member
Man... It's really sad to see Halo falls back to number 11 in most played games.
COD
Fallout
Fifa
GTA
Destiny
BF
NBA
Minecraft
Madden
Rainbow Six beta

Aaaaaannnd and Halo 5.

What gives?? :/

It's partly paying for the sins of the father. It's a bit like the new Assasin's Creed. It's no doubt better then Unity, but it's going to have to claw it's way back. Also, I think this multiplayer has one steep learning curve, multiplayer in this game is fantastic but it is in no way welcoming for new players. That said, even if it's not going to top the list, I do think it's going to have really good legs and retain its population and move up as others' population dies out.
 

Detective

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rainbow is in open beta so a ton of people will be playing that no questions, destiny has the casual crowd by the neck, fallout is fallout, gta is gta, fifa is huge in europe, madden is madden and NBA I guess is big in the US?

Halo 5 is a good game but it lacks the pulling power for the casual group even with warzone and it's req cards, it has no firefight for a start nor does it have infection that was a game type everyone voted for in reach to the point where they made a dedicated infection hopper for it, it's that popular.

Sad to see it in that place IMO.

Sport, FPS, RPG,
All of them are in front of Halo.

It was on 1 place the launch week. But that's it.
Even Destiny which is old are back in front of Halo.
 

Detective

Member
Improved firefight might hold good amount of casuals.People playing destiny's shitty raids over over and over again..

Yeah, What's with that? I have Destiny. I just can't understand why ppl like it.Firefight for all players.. Day and night maps. Sneaking and level up.. Come on 343I. How can you not think about that?

I think it's because of the steep multiplayer learning curve, multiplayer in this game is fantastic but it is in no way welcoming for new players. That said, even if it's not going to top the list, I do think it's going to have really good legs and retain its population and move up as others' population dies out.

I hope you are right bro.

Greatest mp IMO.
 

Theorry

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rainbow is in open beta so a ton of people will be playing that no questions, destiny has the casual crowd by the neck, fallout is fallout, gta is gta, fifa is huge in europe, madden is madden and NBA I guess is big in the US?

Halo 5 is a good game but it lacks the pulling power for the casual group even with warzone and it's req cards, it has no firefight for a start nor does it have infection that was a game type everyone voted for in reach to the point where they made a dedicated infection hopper for it, it's that popular.

Game needs to come to the PC.
 
Man... It's really sad to see Halo falls back to number 11 in most played games.
COD
Fallout
Fifa
GTA
Destiny
BF
NBA
Minecraft
Madden
Rainbow Six beta

Aaaaaannnd and Halo 5.

What gives?? :/

The game has zero causal modes to attract a casual fanbase. CoDs main gameplay loop is about as casual-shooter as it gets.

Game needs to come to the PC.

Also this. It boggles my mind how Microsoft's most popular IP is not on its most popular platform. It just doesn't make any sense.
 

Akai__

Member
I just found a 416 player lobby:


Unfortunately, it wouldn't start the game so thanks 343i. I was preparing myself for a crazy game. :p

Also, a guy was shooting our Core in a match prior to that and I told him that nothing will happen. He then proceeds to threaten me with calling the SWAT on me. Nice fella overall. Here are his messages: http://i.imgur.com/0EHi6vd.png. And does anybody know what "Fat You" means? lol
 

BraXzy

Member
Hmm I have am Astro mixamp but I use it with a set of audiotechnica ath adg1s. Pretty fucking amazing.

I've always heard great things about Astro's but they've always been out of my price range, cheap Turtle Beaches are my go to.

Found a really good price at Argos :D
 

Theorry

Member
Also this. It boggles my mind how Microsoft's most popular IP is not on its most popular platform. It just doesn't make any sense.

They want to sell Xbox One's offcourse. But.
There is no reason why a PC version cant come 6 months later. I mean its perfect for the W10 gaming push and the game has all the things a PC gamer wants. Very depth and skill based gameplay, dedi servers and free dlc.
 
I would assume Halo 5 moves up during peak hours in the US.

But I mean... Halo isn't as big as it used to be. Never will be again. Nothing "gives" really... Just the casual crowd has moved on along with a bunch of the hardcores that left the game behind because of Reach and H4
I think(hope) MS/343 knows this and they are tailoring their plans to a path similar to valve's support for TF2 and csgo. Which started in similar positions to H5, also I believe bravo mentioned valve as an inspiration for their plans in the BTB update stream.
 

Strider

Member
I believe that if a multiplayer only H5 game was on steam and priced accordingly ($30 entry + req microtransactions) that it would be enormous.

PC audience would go crazy over Reqs just like they do CS:GO cases and skins... Buying, trading, betting, etc.

But even if they put it on PC it wouldn't be on Steam so whatever
 

Vico

Member
I just found a 416 player lobby:



Unfortunately, it wouldn't start the game so thanks 343i. I was preparing myself for a crazy game. :p

Also, a guy was shooting our Core in a match prior to that and I told him that nothing will happen. He then proceeds to threaten me with calling the SWAT on me. Nice fella overall. Here are his messages: http://i.imgur.com/0EHi6vd.png. And does anybody know what "Fat You" means? lol

lol, what I would give to see it happen just once.
 

Detective

Member
Hmmm.. Lets see my collections of weapons and vehicles.

Am gonna list the important things only:

61 carbine
69 Swords
12 Ravening Sliver Sword
44 Fuel red Cabin
34 Hydra
7 Typhon . better Hydra
38 Light rifles
73 Needles
41 Hailstorm. Better needler
49 plasmacaster
Over 100 plasma pistols. 3 kinds
27 Railgun
18 Whiplash. Better railgun
77 Rockets
35 better rockets
70 saw
54 Appetite for destruction
37 Shotgun
13Lawgiver . better Shotgun
3 Blaze of Glory. Much better Shotgun
11 sniper
7 and of the line. Better snipers
23 laser

50 tanks
130 Ghosts. All kinds
19 wraith

lol.. Not often I use things :p
 

Madness

Member
Man... It's really sad to see Halo falls back to number 11 in most played games.
COD
Fallout
Fifa
GTA
Destiny
BF
NBA
Minecraft
Madden
Rainbow Six beta

Aaaaaannnd and Halo 5.

What gives?? :/

Halo 5 is lacking in a lot of modes that just isn't keeping people hooked. Everyone knew Call of Duty would draw away a ton of the players who want the more casual friendly shooter game play.

Battlefront this time though also took a sizeable chunk as a lot of Halo fans are Battlefront fans and I probably see more Halo players playing Battlefront right now.

Also, it's a question of most played daily. Destiny alone, it takes a couple hours to do bounties and complete and travel to the tower and decode engrams and blah blah. Games like Minecraft are similar in that regard, the game play loop requires time investment daily. I mean Warzone is supposed to be the main hook for Halo 5 but it's only got 3 maps and the payout for your hard work in playing enough matches for a gold pack could be an emblem when you wanted a gun or vehicle. Are you really going to spend 3-4 hours playing Warzone daily? Imagine if the game had firefight or spartan ops and Forge launched, that's additional 'non-PvP' players spending time with the game etc. I also think MCC just hurt the franchise a lot. Hasn't been the same, no matter how good the new mp game play is.
 

Detective

Member
I think(hope) MS/343 knows this and they are tailoring their plans to a path similar to valve's support for TF2 and csgo. Which started in similar positions to H5, also I believe bravo mentioned valve as an inspiration for their plans in the BTB update stream.

I think Halo needs a rest

Concentrate on Halo 5 with contents.

Real BTB maps

Firefight. Etc

Halo 6 should come next gen.
 

Bessy67

Member
Hmmm.. Lets see my collections of weapons and vehicles.

Am gonna list the important things only:

61 carbine
69 Swords
12 Ravening Sliver Sword
44 Fuel red Cabin
34 Hydra
7 Typhon . better Hydra
38 Light rifles
73 Needles
41 Hailstorm. Better needler
49 plasmacaster
Over 100 plasma pistols. 3 kinds
27 Railgun
18 Whiplash. Better railgun
77 Rockets
35 better rockets
70 saw
54 Appetite for destruction
37 Shotgun
13Lawgiver . better Shotgun
3 Blaze of Glory. Much better Shotgun
11 sniper
7 and of the line. Better snipers
23 laser

50 tanks
130 Ghosts. All kinds
19 wraith

lol.. Not often I use things :p
lol, you need to start selling some stuff. I don't keep more than 10 of any one card.
 
The game has zero causal modes to attract a casual fanbase. CoDs main gameplay loop is about as casual-shooter as it gets.



Also this. It boggles my mind how Microsoft's most popular IP is not on its most popular platform. It just doesn't make any sense.

Distiny, CoD and Battlefront are all very casual, I think BF is as simple as it can get. I'd agree that Halo is down due to the MCC and the steep learning curve/large skill gap. People like to think they're good at a game while being constantly rewarded with positive feedback. That's what games like CoD and BF do. Halo on the other hand has a more competitive nature.
 
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