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[spiritfox]

I don't know what they should do with widowmaker. I just know I hate being double body shot so easily, so perhaps putting more emphasis on higher charge and less about spamming non-headshots... even then the great widowmakers can get pretty out of hand as well. I am bothered less by a really skilled widow who rarely misses a headshot, but when it comes to these great snipers the refire rate seems a bit too high. A miss, miss, headshot ouch.

There is a certain non-fun factor going on here as well, because even a widowmaker that is slamming a team might be contributing a lot less to an overall win than say a tracer who is putting out the same pain.

The SMG is actually quite weak. It's basically much weaker than s76's rifle. Much more spread and 4 damage per shot less. I think I was told overall it is ~40% less consistent dps or something. The SMG doesn't bother me at all.

It's 40% less compared to the main weapon of an assault character. Her secondary weapon. Meanwhile Hanzo has to contend with actual projectile movement (and fall) plus "reloading" after each shot. And he's pretty much dead in melee unless he gets a lucky shot. I think there's a problem here.

 

[Hyun Sai]

It's interesting that the F-Tier and lower end of the C-tier are the heroes that I see picked the most on consoles right now.

Yeah, that's why Blizzard is kind of forced of dealing with balance carefully.

Imagine what a buff to Tjorb and Bastion will do to the console meta LOL.

 

[Klyka]

Yeah, that's why Blizzard is kind of forced of dealing with balance carefully.

Imagine what a buff to Tjorb and Bastion will do to the console meta LOL.

PC and console will be seperately balanced

 

[Lupercal]

It's 40% less compared to the main weapon of an assault character. Her secondary weapon. Meanwhile Hanzo has to contend with actual projectile movement (and fall) plus "reloading" after each shot. And he's pretty much dead in melee unless he gets a lucky shot. I think there's a problem here.

Hanzo always gets lucky shots bruh.

 

[X-Frame]

I've probably only been sniped once by a Widow on PS4 and that was when I was Zenyetta.

I do play mostly Tanks and Supports though.

 

[Sniffynose]

No Australians on PS4 here at all? Public games are killing me since I only have time to play at night.

I'm not saying they likely all got eaten by "fill in the name of anything that moves in Australia" but they got eaten.

Maybe next gen the deadly creatures will show mercy on you guys

 

[Antiwhippy]

It's interesting that the F-Tier and lower end of the C-tier are the heroes that I see picked the most on consoles right now.



No, then again I think I've only seen her played competently once. I just fly straight above her as Pharah.

Easy way to get sniped really.

Also I pretty much main the lower tier on pc. :lol

They're still pretty common on pc, it's just that there's a vast skill difference in competitive meta and actual regular people.

 

[Grief.exe]

Since there is a real difference between PC Widowmaker and console Widowmaker, do people from consoles think she is really OP?

Console OverwatchGAF - if someone locks in a Widow it's considered a loss.
PC Overwatch - Widow forces a counter pick, unless you want to lose

Sometimes calling for the counter pick is like pulling teeth.

 

[SliceSabre]

Its funny on console even in games with Widowmaker or Hanzo I rarely ever see one snipe her out of the sky like you'd expect.

Pharah's greatest enemy seems to be turrets/Bastions.

 

[Zaventem]

Console OverwatchGAF - if someone locks in a Widow it's considered a loss.
PC Overwatch - Widow on the forces a counter pick, unless you want to lose

Sometimes calling for the counter pick is like pulling teeth.

I've seen sharp shooter like 5 times on console. I think hanzo gets more play because he feels like a mid range sniper.

 

[Mupod]

Keep calm and tracer on. The lamest voice line I've heard so far.

it's my goal to find the most obnoxious voice lines for all characters. I bound them to F so I can mash them all the time.

WOO JACKPOT
WOO JACKPOT
WOO JACKPOT

 

[B-Genius]

PC and console will be seperately balanced

Good to know, thanks.
(If you have a source, that would be extra reassuring!)

So many "X needs a nerf/buff" arguments never take into account which system is being played on.

I play on PS4 and I believe Torb is fine as he is (beat a pub team of 6 of them defending Volskaya the other day and I was the only D.Va...), but it's easy to see how people on console would have a harder time dealing with the perfect aim and reactions of his turrets. 360 degree sensors also mean you can rarely get the drop on them.

Moreso than anything I get sick of seeing his POTGs, mainly because they're so boring.

 

[Fersis]

Got the game on PS4, its still downloading but i tried to link it to my BattleNet account and i just get a blank browser screen @__@

Oh and i joined the GAF Overwatch community, im always up for some tean games. (My english sucks though)

 

[yeehamuffins]

it's my goal to find the most obnoxious voice lines for all characters. I bound them to F so I can mash them all the time.

WOO JACKPOT
WOO JACKPOT
WOO JACKPOT

Winky face!

And thanks for all the video card advice. After further investigation, though, turns out the issue may be my CPU overheating. Going to stop and pick up some new thermal paste on the way home from work, hopefully that should fix the issue for now. If not, guess I can see if my old video card can run the game on low settings for now, and try to hold out until the end of the month. Ugh, I'm already going through withdrawal, and this would have to happen when the brawl I was actually enjoying is running.

 

[PayOffWizard]

Got the game on PS4, its still downloading but i tried to link it to my BattleNet account and i just get a blank browser screen @__@

Oh and i joined the GAF Overwatch community, im always up for some tean games. (My english sucks though)

GAF Overwatch community? I thought this thread was that?

 

[Copenap]

Quoted from reddit:



Well, doesn't he speak the truth. I'm not even sure why we even need a Widowmaker in this game, playing against a sniper is simply not fun and it's even more frustrating if you have to pick her every game because the enemy team picked her. She really has it all, she can snipe your whole backline with a few shots if shes good, she has a escape mechanism, she can lay a trap so she knows when someones near her, she can just switch to a fucking SMG (lmao, who thought of that?) and she has a goddamn wallhack, which you can't even hear half of the time that it's active. Bringing this character into the game was a big mistake imo. Short of removing her (which they will never do ofc), you can only nerf her into the ground, but even then she will still be effective because of her whole kit. Every game with a Widowmaker revolves around her, it really becomes tiring on certain maps




Don't do it

Don't know how much of a problem Widow really is as I'm on PS4 where she is much less poweeful, nevertheless the reddit poster makes an incredibly terrible comparison.

 

[Diablohead]

I'd call myself a borderline average sniper but on PC if someone good is sniping you can say GG and be done with it, she is extremely good and high DPS in the right hands.

 

[Twookie]

i hate the fact that to truly counter widowmaker on pc you have to have someone on your team pick widowmaker too

if you stumble upon people that have like 50 hr total gametime and out of that have 30 hrs on just widowmaker, youre pretty much done for

 

[PatjuhR]

I saw a headline passing by on FB the other day about speculation of cross-platform Overwatch between PC, xbox and ps4. Doesnt seem like a good idea after all this.

Seems like PC Widowmaker will just come in and ruin everybody's day.

 

[Felix Lighter]

I've played too much Roadhog lately and it's made me lazy with health with other characters. Problem is, about 60-70% of my matches, no one picks tank and it's hard to accept a match without a tank, so I pick him because he's the tank I do best with. I'll have to just try to break the bad habit consciously when playing low health characters.

I saw a headline passing by on FB the other day about speculation of cross-platform Overwatch between PC, xbox and ps4. Doesnt seem like a good idea after all this.

Seems like PC Widowmaker will just come in and ruin everybody's day.

I believe that is based off of some comments but that was explicitly between consoles, not PC and consoles.

 

[Stone Ocean]

I saw a headline passing by on FB the other day about speculation of cross-platform Overwatch between PC, xbox and ps4. Doesnt seem like a good idea after all this.

Seems like PC Widowmaker will just come in and ruin everybody's day.

PC / consoles cross play will never happen.

 

[PatjuhR]

Good lol.

 

[peakish]

I believe that is based off of some comments but that was explicitly between consoles, not PC and consoles.

Yeah, nevermind Widowmaker, there wouldn't be a match even without her. Not to mention that the console and PC versions are already balanced differently so there's no way there are any plans to make them compatible (unless maybe for custom games which could be cool I suppose).

 

[7DollarHagane]

PC / consoles cross play will never happen.

It could but since they've said they tuned some damage values and other gameplay mechanics things differently on console it's very unlikely. They would have to patch both platforms to meet in the middle if they did crossplay.

 

[Jimnymebob]

I got a 22 elimination streak as Zenyatta last night on Route 66 defence. They didn't even touch the payload.
There was another Zenyatta on my team, which actually works really well in my opinion. I always enjoy having a second support as Zenyatta, but normally people pick Mercy or sometimes Symettra, but this was my first dual Zenyatta team.

 

[Fugu]

Nah, I wouldn't try it with Tracer or Mercy.

I have killed a *lot* of turrets as Mercy. If they're not being babysat and they're not ignorable, usually they're vulnerable in some way. And if they aren't, you can get your team to help you.

...Having said that, I think the real thing that's happening here is that the difference in turret effectiveness on console versus PC is quite big so we're not all arguing from the same place. I play on PC and, even on my incredibly laggy/janky setup with a quarter second of input lag I find turrets quite manageable.

 

[PatjuhR]

Yeah, nevermind Widowmaker, there wouldn't be a match even without her. Not to mention that the console and PC versions are already balanced differently so there's no way there are any plans to make them compatible (unless maybe for custom games which could be cool I suppose).

I'd love a Console vs PC match. Time to teach those smug "master race" a lesson!

Spoiler

They gonna need some kind of handicap for that to happen tho

 

[GraveRobberX]

The weekly brawl is some fucking bullfuckingshit

So many of my games have been the same setup
This game mode ain't random

2 Rein, 2 Mercy, or 2 Roadhog are always a given...

While the game spawn our team with Zenyatta or Tracers

 

[TheLetdown]

Console OverwatchGAF - if someone locks in a Widow it's considered a loss.
PC Overwatch - Widow forces a counter pick, unless you want to lose

Sometimes calling for the counter pick is like pulling teeth.

Yes and no. The problem is that if someone picks a Widow, someone who wanted that Widow will reflex-pick a Hanzo. Then you've got a 1/3 of your team moving inch-by-inch toward the point.

While the difference between a good Widow on PC and one on Console is pretty big, the main thing is the massive gap between a good Console Widow and a shit Console Widow. There just seems to be no middle ground. You're one or the other, but it's so rare to find someone who is in the middle. If anyone professes to be a middle-tier Widow, they're probably just a shit-tier in denial.

Sniping with a mouse is a hell of a lot easier thing to get a feel for, especially if you've been playing PC shooters for most of your life. Mauser-only servers in Medal of Honor: Allied Assault have taught me more about what it means to be a human being than anything else I've ever read, watched or heard.

 

[PatjuhR]

Yes and no. The problem is that if someone picks a Widow, someone who wanted that Widow will reflex-pick a Hanzo. Then you've got a 1/3 of your team moving inch-by-inch toward the point.

While the difference between a good Widow on PC and one on Console is pretty big, the main thing is the massive gap between a good Console Widow and a shit Console Widow. There just seems to be no middle ground. You're one or the other, but it's so rare to find someone who is in the middle. If anyone professes to be a middle-tier Widow, they're probably just a shit-tier in denial.

Sniping with a mouse is a hell of a lot easier thing to get a feel for, especially if you've been playing PC shooters for most of your life. Mauser-only servers in Medal of Honor: Allied Assault have taught me more about what it means to be a human being than anything else I've ever read, watched or heard.

I dunno. I believe you can't be THAT shit as console Widow. You are incredibly helpfull if you take out turrets and Bastions. That should be enough to be an average Widow. And I think my 90 year old grandma could shoot down not moving targets.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Finally played enough Winston games to rank on Master Overwatch.

#4,569 by score/sec, and I feel like I only really hit a groove with him last night. I think I've finally settled on him as my go-to off-tank.

 

[ramyeon]

I'm not saying they likely all got eaten by "fill in the name of anything that moves in Australia" but they got eaten.

Maybe next gen the deadly creatures will show mercy on you guys

Haha. It's terrible, I see the GAF PSN group for Overwatch being so active all day while I'm at work and then it's dead as soon as I get home and ready to play. Been stuck with randoms every night as a result.

 

[Mupod]

weekly brawl is generally super frustrating especially on attack.

I had a funny one where I randomed Symmetra on King's Row attack and proceeded to somehow dominate most of the match. I had a teleporter up behind enemy lines, POTG was me killing a full health Roadhog 1v1 then melting a Mercy right after with the charged-up beam. I ended up dying at some point...and got Symmetra again. The thing that sucks is even if you random her a second time it destroys the teleporter and resets your ult.

 

[PayOffWizard]

Haha. It's terrible, I see the GAF PSN group for Overwatch being so active all day while I'm at work and then it's dead as soon as I get home and ready to play. Been stuck with randoms every night as a result.

Whats a PSN group and how do i join?

 

[Lady Siara]

Keep calm and tracer on. The lamest voice line I've heard so far.

Yep, it's about as vile as the "keep calm and reap on" spray.

Frankly, fuck both of these.

 

[TheAngryMonkey]

Console Widowmaker feels awful. Coming from Destiny I find aiming to be a chore and the "weapon handling" on her is awkward as hell. I've only faced a couple really good Widowmaker players on Xbox. Otherwise it isn't uncommon for me to beat them as Mercy more than I lose.

 

[NeoRaider]

Wasn't able to play the game for one week and... so many players already above lvl 70-80 O.O
And here i am with lvl 25 lol. I really need to git gud i guess. XD

 

[LiK]

Its funny on console even in games with Widowmaker or Hanzo I rarely ever see one snipe her out of the sky like you'd expect.

Pharah's greatest enemy seems to be turrets/Bastions.

Indeed, sniping on consoles is way tougher. Sniping on PC in general has always been easy, imo. Probably why I'll stick with PS4.

 

[Hyun Sai]

It could but since they've said they tuned some damage values and other gameplay mechanics things differently on console it's very unlikely. They would have to patch both platforms to meet in the middle if they did crossplay.

This has nothing to do with damage value and gameplay. The reason we will never see PC / console for FPS is due to the K/M and Gamepad.

They specifically talked about Xbox One / PS4 cross play, not once PC / Console.

It will never happen for competitive FPS.

 

[bigdaddygamebot]

I think Torbjorn's turret could track a little more slowly. I'm an absolute rubbish player and I had two games with him last night where I got 37 and 31 kills respectively.

Or maybe some teams just refuse to swap out characters to deal with an issue like that? I want to watch some high level play and see how they deal with the turrets.


This was on PS4.

It's really crazy to see how different the meta is on PC and consoles.

 

[Platinum Mad]

No Australians on PS4 here at all? Public games are killing me since I only have time to play at night.

As is you're finding it difficult to find games or just don't like to play with randoms? hah
I'm on PC and usually takes about a minute to find a game throughout the whole night.
Be interesting to see numbers for different platforms in different countries.

 

[LiK]

As is you're finding it difficult to find games or just don't like to play with randoms? hah
I'm on PC and usually takes about a minute to find a game throughout the whole night.
Be interesting to see numbers for different platforms in different countries.

He's looking to group up instead of playing with randoms. Plenty of randoms to play with on consoles.

 

[Bydobob]

i hate the fact that to truly counter widowmaker on pc you have to have someone on your team pick widowmaker too

I don't know, I find Genji a good counter for Widowmaker. Hard to land a shot on a Genji moving properly, and he'll scale most places Widowmaker can get to and get the jump on her.

 

[Mupod]

Maybe it's the MMR level I'm stuck at due to playing with my friend and his CS buddies all the time but it's rare I can do well as Widow these days. Not because I'm bad at her, if left unchallenged I'm pretty good at keeping Mercy and turrets dead all the time. But because there is *always* that guy with 50-60 hours only on Widow on the other team, and he's doing nothing but looking for me. Even when I'm holding my own I get annoyed by being stuck in that 2Fort sniper vs sniper kind of gameplay.

 

[vixlar]

I'm not a Bastion player. Yesterday, I had the chance to play with him. 21-0. Play of the game. I unlocked his two achievements and the 20 killstreak one in the same game.

If you use it as a moving turret, instead of waiting in the same place all the round, the character is fun. The enemies didn't expect being attacked by a Bastion with assault rifle.

 

[ramyeon]

As is you're finding it difficult to find games or just don't like to play with randoms? hah
I'm on PC and usually takes about a minute to find a game throughout the whole night.
Be interesting to see numbers for different platforms in different countries.

I can find games easy, but like 1 out of every 30 randoms is using a mic and games just tend to fall apart a lot without proper communication :/

Even went out and bought a new headset to play this with a mic and haven't been able to use it once! Haha.

 

[ExVicis]

I think Torbjorn's turret could track a little more slowly. I'm an absolute rubbish player and I had two games with him last night where I got 37 and 31 kills respectively.

They can't change that, if the turret doesn't track the way it does how could it ever possibly kill Tracer/ Tor (or rather the turret) is a direct deterrent to Tracer who cannot just agile her way out of being shot by it's insta-tracking.

 

[LiK]

Quick question: is Bastion's Ultimate based on a timer or based on how many shots he shoots out once active?

 

[ExVicis]

I saw a headline passing by on FB the other day about speculation of cross-platform Overwatch between PC, xbox and ps4. Doesnt seem like a good idea after all this.

Seems like PC Widowmaker will just come in and ruin everybody's day.

Have you tried Winston? Or even D.Va? Because I've ruined a Widowmakers day with both those characters. In fact I believe if you're Winston and you're not murdering Widowmakers on the other team every moment you and they are alive at the same time you're not doing your job.

Quick question: is Bastion's Ultimate based on a timer or based on how many shots he shoots out once active?

I think it's a timer because I've seen Bastion PotGs where they murdered the entire team with multiple shots and it seemed to last the same amount of time.

 

[Antiwhippy]

I think Torbjorn's turret could track a little more slowly. I'm an absolute rubbish player and I had two games with him last night where I got 37 and 31 kills respectively.

Or maybe some teams just refuse to swap out characters to deal with an issue like that? I want to watch some high level play and see how they deal with the turrets.

You can't, because turrets are absolutely non viable in competitive play.