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Somewhat unrelated, but because this won't offer BC to the WiiU, Nintendo should rebrand the WiiU as some sort of Virtual Console at a $150 or less price.
Somewhat unrelated, but because this won't offer BC to the WiiU, Nintendo should rebrand the WiiU as some sort of Virtual Console at a $150 or less price.
Somewhat unrelated, but because this won't offer BC to the WiiU, Nintendo should rebrand the WiiU as some sort of Virtual Console at a $150 or less price.
"New Tegra 2"? Tegra 2 was released in 2010 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra Current Tegra chip is Tegra X1Even the new Tegra 2?
If so, oh well. More money for Nintendo by putting out higher priced remasters with extra content of the few Wii U games that would sell well and don't have sequels ready soon.
Price I'd say around $300 if they can't hit $399 based on their research for maximum mainstream reach. Maybe $250 if the stars align. Android Shield TV sells for $199 and that's not even bulk produced anywhere near what consoles do. but doesn't come with a screen. The Dock will add to the price otherwise without Dock (if it has additonal computational unit) they could go ~$200.
$200 or less is a dream unless they're willing to take a loss initially (Which they said they wouldn't).
https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/1789-16nm-finfet-versus-20nm-planar.html
Well, the handheld market isn't doing too well these days though.
Somewhat unrelated, but because this won't offer BC to the WiiU, Nintendo should rebrand the WiiU as some sort of Virtual Console at a $150 or less price.
They're launching new NES (and probably SNES) mini consoles specifically for that.
What are the chances of the screen being auto-stereo 3D?
Except his point was for people to play Wii U games that almost assuredly won't be available in any BC fashion on NX (unless they're ported and come with a new full sale price of course).
The NES mini is nice. A SNES mini would be awesome (and sell a billion units). But the Wii U has a nice software lineup of exclusives that a lot of people never got to play because the Wii U didn't sell well at its price point.
"New Tegra 2"? Tegra 2 was released in 2010 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra Current Tegra chip is Tegra X1
What are the chances of the screen being auto-stereo 3D?
You're forgetting two extremely important things about the Shield TV.
Probably safe to say that it has a decent profit margin.
- It's well over a year old even now
- It's an Nvidia product.
The X2 speculation would make sense from what we know (about the current X1 devkit using a fan?).
Would be a pretty expensive handheld though, no?
Asus transformer book has been doing this for years. Lightweight tablet and discrete graphics, hdd and extra battery in the dock.
I'm betting on $399 for the base model. I wish they'd sell for $250, but I'm convinced they'll try to market at premium hardware price no matter what.
In handheld mode? No.
When docked? Sure. If it uses the Tegra X2 chip, and the dock provides the extra voltage and cooling to over clock, it could hit X1 levels from what's been speculated on. Even more easily reached if the dock adds extra processing power, or more RAM etc.
I'm betting on $399 for the base model. I wish they'd sell for $250, but I'm convinced they'll try to market at premium hardware price no matter what.
To everyone saying no BC... why? I'm sure it's powerful enough to emulate everything from NES - Wii. Not WiiU, but not like anything can emulate it right now. Why are we so sure the NX won't have BC for the older consoles/handhelds?
I'm betting on $399 for the base model. I wish they'd sell for $250, but I'm convinced they'll try to market at premium hardware price no matter what.
To everyone saying no BC... why? I'm sure it's powerful enough to emulate everything from NES - Wii. Not WiiU, but not like anything can emulate it right now. Why are we so sure the NX won't have BC for the older consoles/handhelds?
Tegra? Nooooooo...
If this thing won't go well I doubt 3rd parties will even attempt to port games on it.
This rumor is making me think about the people who swear up and down that the NX will consist of a handheld and a console component. From what I gather, people with that viewpoint are going off "insider" information and reports that mention multiple SKU's for the NX. Here's my thought:
- In the world of retail, a SKU is primarily used for keeping inventory. It doesn't have to mean two entirely different products, it could just be two variants of the same product. IE: Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 Arcade units were different SKU's. Wii-U Deluxe and Basic are also different SKU's.
- If the rumor in the OP is true, the dock could most likely have some extra processing power (an SCD) that upscales content from the handheld unit for your TV.
- Based on the information above and various Nintendo patents, my thinking is that there will be two SKU's available at launch. One that comes with the dock, controller attachements, and a screen. Another will come with just the dock and controller attachements, allowing you to use an (approved) smart device or tablet for a lower entry price.
Thoughts? Let's talk about what this thing could be.
The thread is approaching 150 pages. People have been talking about it. A lot.This rumor is making me think about the people who swear up and down that the NX will consist of a handheld and a console component. From what I gather, people with that viewpoint are going off "insider" information and reports that mention multiple SKU's for the NX. Here's my thought:
- In the world of retail, a SKU is primarily used for keeping inventory. It doesn't have to mean two entirely different products, it could just be two variants of the same product. IE: Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 Arcade units were different SKU's. Wii-U Deluxe and Basic are also different SKU's.
- If the rumor in the OP is true, the dock could most likely have some extra processing power (an SCD) that upscales content from the handheld unit for your TV.
- Based on the information above and various Nintendo patents, my thinking is that there will be two SKU's available at launch. One that comes with the dock, controller attachements, and a screen. Another will come with just the dock and controller attachements, allowing you to use an (approved) smart device or tablet for a lower entry price.
Thoughts? Let's talk about what this thing could be.
I'm betting on $399 for the base model. I wish they'd sell for $250, but I'm convinced they'll try to market at premium hardware price no matter what.
Early online speculation about pricing for the NX expects it to be cheaper than current consoles, but from what weve heard its going to be cheaper than even the vast majority expect. This is a machine that is targeting the mass market, and Nintendo certainly plans for it to have a mass market price. Price is one Wii U mistake Nintendo is determined not to repeat. This could be NX's single biggest win.
Yeah but this would also mean Nintendo won't have to split its handheld and console development... in theory. I don't know if they really plan on having this replace handheld and consoles forever.Tegra? Nooooooo...
If this thing won't go well I doubt 3rd parties will even attempt to port games on it.
I have a sliver of hope I'll get a Madden game for this and I'll finally have a console-quality Madden game I can play wherever I want. That's huge for me.
I bought a GBA, bought a GBC game for it. I bought a Wii, bought a gamecube game. Bought a WiiU, used Wii mode. Bought a DS. Bought another GBA game. Bought a 3DS. Purchased another DS game.
Isn't anecdotal evidence fun.
You know, the Tegra doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
I mean, the Mobile market walked away from the ARM chip due to it's rather bad power consumption. And that is something that you need to be aware of with a handheld, Something that Nintendo does focus on.
NVidia would be a rather bad match for what Nintendo would be looking for with a chip, and as much as AMD doesn't serve that market in any capacity, there are others that do.
Not for a gaming device. Nintendo isn't planing to launch a phone, you know?
I think the dock will be dumb, that just allows for the console to draw more power and the clocks are unlocked to allow more resolution. If the dock has another chip, the tech required to make the console and the dock work together and theprice of the dock itself would be astronomical.
Astronomical? Like a million dollars?
Just Dance 4 on Wii U lets you do exactly that using the Gamepad as an Off-TV screen.How would you play like that, honest question?, Aren't you supposed to mimick the movements depicted onscreen? I guess you're implying that the user would use the portable screen as an off TV screen and dance using the detached controllers?
Tegra? Nooooooo...
If this thing won't go well I doubt 3rd parties will even attempt to port games on it.
so the controllers that detach, thats just two halves and not 2 separate controllers right?
"Compatible" is a vague word. Could just be referring to cross-platform My Nintendo integration.
I'm not ruling out NX getting ports of mobile games, but the idea seems weird and pointless given that those games are designed first and foremost for platforms much more friendly to pick-up-and-play experiences.
How much much of a power boost are people expecting from the dock? I have a hard time imagining that any freed up processing power will provide enough juice for anything more than a resolution bump from whatever resolution the handheld will offer to something that is more in line with modern TVs.
That would mean NX is DOA.
This rumor is making me think about the people who swear up and down that the NX will consist of a handheld and a console component. From what I gather, people with that viewpoint are going off "insider" information and reports that mention multiple SKU's for the NX. Here's my thought:
- In the world of retail, a SKU is primarily used for keeping inventory. It doesn't have to mean two entirely different products, it could just be two variants of the same product. IE: Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 Arcade units were different SKU's. Wii-U Deluxe and Basic are also different SKU's.
- If the rumor in the OP is true, the dock could most likely have some extra processing power (an SCD) that upscales content from the handheld unit for your TV.
- Based on the information above and various Nintendo patents, my thinking is that there will be two SKU's available at launch. One that comes with the dock, controller attachements, and a screen. Another will come with just the dock and controller attachements, allowing you to use an (approved) smart device or tablet for a lower entry price.
Thoughts? Let's talk about what this thing could be.
The image is not from Nintendo. So that explains why it doesn't look like them.The included image looks very un-Nintendo.
It doesn't look sturdy and kids won't lose the controller bits?
I'm all in on anything Nintendo, but this whole thing is a headscratcher.
For example. What multi-kid family doesn't have multiple N handhelds. Parents know, kids want one each. In fact, I want my own too. How does this work under NX?