Haunted
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No, this would be a first and an innovation in the handheld space.
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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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Okami Haundo
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Honestly that makes a ton of sense, throw more power in the handheld and just force it to limit itself when it isn't attached to the dock. If they go with that approach, I really feel like they'd market this thing as a console first, handheld second. Especially with the "inferior" specs of the handheld mode and the continued success of the 3DS.
Yikes, do you use that line at parties too?
Calm waterfall
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This could be a bit pricey. A handheld, a dock and controllers, maybe around $350-400.
darkistheway
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I really hope they go with down-clocking the more powerful chip.
I didn't think of that, good idea.
I suspect you may well be right, at least about this being just the handheld (with light "hybrid" functionality). There's nothing in the Eurogamer article which states, or even implies, that this is Nintendo's only upcoming piece of hardware, and it very much seems that it's a handheld first and foremost, and that the dock is simply a piece of plastic for charging and outputting HDMI and not much more. Given that, and given that Nintendo have commented repeatedly about future handhelds and future consoles being part of a "family of systems", I think there's a very strong possibility that there's a dedicated home console in the works too, but that its release is a little further out.
Even the hybrid functionality here may just be to give people the cheapest possible entry point into the "NX ecosystem", with MCV claiming that "it's going to be cheaper than even the vast majority expect", and with the "proper" console serving people who are looking for a more traditional home console with higher resolution support.
I'm not so sure about the SCD angle (I still think that such an approach would be confusing for consumers), but I could definitely see a stand-alone console popping up within a year or so of the portable.
I want it to happen, but it's probably more likely that it's a touch screen.
I'd say $249 is the max they'd consider seeing as the handheld market is the obvious target for this device.
Frankly, they are in trouble if they go above $200.
cause i've heard people say local multi player and i honestly believe people were misinterpreting information. but then i watched that digital foundry video and they seemed confident on the local multiplayer. i just don't understand how a controller with a stick and d-pad can be used against a controller with a stick and face buttons. outside of specifically tailored experiences it seems more likely that it would be 2 halves but i guess you never really know with Nintendo
Joegrine_TT
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I thought the NX suppose to be a family of devices? like multiple form factors
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I'm wouldn't go so far to call this innovating I mean sure I won't deny that it would be a first in the Handheld Market but as far as Portable devices go this isn't new technology.
Just look at the MSI GS30 as an example:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RYZ6INW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
FearlessBelgian
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Please a OLED screen Nintendo ! PLEASE !
Oh snap! I'm out then. I could have handled it if it was a million dollars, but a million and one?? That's crazyness.
Calm waterfall
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Interesting. We have to wait for the unveiling. I welcome a positive surprise.
The point of 3rd party support is not just preventing droughts, it's also a steady revenue stream of licencing fees. My guess would be that Nintendo is ready to almost ditch that completely in favour of a single platform including some big exclusives. Like Bayonetta 2, like Beyond Good & Evil 2. Instead of getting into bidding wars with Sony and MS for exclusive content (which Iwata made clear they are just not interested in) they will focus on a few games here and there and put all their marketing power behind them. Then they will also provide incentives to traditional indie developers and mobile developers.
That's at least how I make sense of this. Traditional ports are pretty much a thing of the past for them.
Portugeezer
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lmao
Not sure if this has been discussed, but where do people think the price point for games will come in?
Hand held games have come in around $40 forever, while console games have been floating between $60-$70. Are we going to see $50 games across the board? Or is Zelda and Mario going to be $60 and more typical hand held games still running $40?
Hand held games have come in around $40 forever, while console games have been floating between $60-$70. Are we going to see $50 games across the board? Or is Zelda and Mario going to be $60 and more typical hand held games still running $40?
Father_Brain
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I would think that My Nintendo integration would suffice for that, at least from Nintendo's perspective. But I dunno.
Again, it would probably be in their best interest to treat this like a 3DS successor, right down to the price.
I'm thinking $199 would be best, $249 at the very most.
New idea
The NX comes in 3 parts
The 6" 540p capacitive touch screen tablet. For light games, apps and Internet browsing.
A controller attachment for heavy games with full controls. The controller attachment is only one piece and not rumoured 2 piece. It's simply is the bottom half of a DS withiut the screen. It can be used to also used as a tablet cover similar to the surface keyboards. It also has an extra battery to play those heavy games on the tablet. It attaches at the bottom and has a similar style to the DS ergonomics.
Then final piece is the dock. The dock will not have its own processor. It will perhaps have a cooling method so the tablet can overclocks. When docked all games can be played at a higher resolution and better graphics. The controller attachment mentioned earlier will also be used as a simple Bluetooth controller in docked mode. Docked mode would be equivalent to Wii U at 1.5x the power.
Prices would be cheap to obtain mass market appeal
$200 - Tablet and Controller
$250 - Tablet and Controller and Dock
Dock sold separately at $70 so you save $20 getting the bundle. Also people who don't like using the controller attachment for docked mode have a option to buy a Pro Controller for $60
The NX comes in 3 parts
The 6" 540p capacitive touch screen tablet. For light games, apps and Internet browsing.
A controller attachment for heavy games with full controls. The controller attachment is only one piece and not rumoured 2 piece. It's simply is the bottom half of a DS withiut the screen. It can be used to also used as a tablet cover similar to the surface keyboards. It also has an extra battery to play those heavy games on the tablet. It attaches at the bottom and has a similar style to the DS ergonomics.
Then final piece is the dock. The dock will not have its own processor. It will perhaps have a cooling method so the tablet can overclocks. When docked all games can be played at a higher resolution and better graphics. The controller attachment mentioned earlier will also be used as a simple Bluetooth controller in docked mode. Docked mode would be equivalent to Wii U at 1.5x the power.
Prices would be cheap to obtain mass market appeal
$200 - Tablet and Controller
$250 - Tablet and Controller and Dock
Dock sold separately at $70 so you save $20 getting the bundle. Also people who don't like using the controller attachment for docked mode have a option to buy a Pro Controller for $60
ShockingAlberto
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I am betting 300 with "value adds" and a 250 SKU.
This being Nintendo....I expect $60.
In a perfect world they would be priced closer to Vita, 3DS games.
Portugeezer
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Probably will vary between $40 and $60... I mean, it wouldn't make sense for Zelda to launch at $40 on NX and $60 on Wii U, they'll both be $60. Something closer to a traditional handheld game will probably be $40.
Neoleo2143
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I'm strongly leaning towards a $200 price point.
Or, how to have a truly awful weight balance...
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I think the bolded is more likely and has precedent with things like Captain Toad on Wii U, Ratchet and Clank on PS4 launching st $40.
MCV says expected is cheaper than current consoles. And NX will be cheaper than expected according to their sources.
NingenJanai
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Holy shit, so NX = Nvidia tegra X
Assuming it's true (still not convinced after Iwata saying "not an hybrid"), I'd say that the battery are inside the controllers, not the screen part.
The controllers need the batteries if they have to work wirelessly.
Since the screen has no battery, the dock is simply required for the thing to be powered!
The controllers need the batteries if they have to work wirelessly.
Since the screen has no battery, the dock is simply required for the thing to be powered!
I forgot about the Captain Toad release. With an assumed increased in releases, I hope that they keep that model and differentiate a Zelda/Mario experience with the higher price point, rather than making it across the board. Although they probably will charge a premium on the Pokemon games, pushing them up to $50 or $60
150 is my hope
boneyjangles
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Even if it's not cheap, as long as it has good battery life, is appealing to indy developers, and has a store with all the classic games from each previous generation, i'm in!
But if i have to swap a cartridge in or out at any point, or it's missing something essential like not having enough buttons to play certain games, i'm out!
I've skipped all the gimmick generations Nintendo, now give me your ubiquitous apex, primarily mobile gaming device!
But if i have to swap a cartridge in or out at any point, or it's missing something essential like not having enough buttons to play certain games, i'm out!
I've skipped all the gimmick generations Nintendo, now give me your ubiquitous apex, primarily mobile gaming device!
Okami Haundo
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For your first comment, what makes you think that? I'm of the mind that it would be entirely possible for them to have a dock that gives the "handheld" of sorts a power boost. I don't think the dock having some supplemental power means the handheld has to be dumb. I'm not going to pretend that I know enough to say definitively either way.
I feel the opposite way about your second statement. I think this will be revealed and marketed as a "console" that you can also take with you on the go with sacrifices. Though many people are looking at this as a handheld for your TV, it's obvious that Nintendo doesn't plan on ditching the 3DS any time soon.
casey_contra
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I think I missed this in the last few pages. Link?
Calm Mind
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You said you were not buying it. What changed?
Father_Brain
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So, just to be clear, in addition to Eurogamer, the following outlets have backed up this report to varying degrees:
IGN
Kotaku
WSJ
MCV
No one should be doubting this report at this point.
IGN
Kotaku
WSJ
MCV
No one should be doubting this report at this point.
The price of an XBox Elite controller?
Okami Haundo
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I appreciate you pointing this out! I wanted to make a similar post but didn't have time to comb each article and see who backed the report yet. I wonder how long it will be before other outlets report from their own sources. Maybe we'll get some new information sooner than we think.
Papacheeks
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And that is a problem for other regions outside Japan. They need western development support even if third party games themselves dont come over. They need games developed for specific regions so they will have a wide software library that doesn't cater two one region.
Never said i was buying it. Just want nintendo to live
casey_contra
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Thank you! That's an interesting tidbit that makes me pretty excited.
I feel like I definitely get more excited about console releases - like take-a-day-off-of-work excited. I have a hard time mustering that up for a handheld, but the tv connectivity along with Zelda at launch helps a lot.
Calm Mind
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From the MCV article ...
EG also talked about this as something Nintendo is focusing on, leading me to disagree with the multiple SKU speculation. They are aiming for a low price point, but if they are really going for mass market, a multiple SKU release could be confusing. I could see a regular SKU and a "pro" SKU, similar to the 360 elite/arcade options.
EG also talked about this as something Nintendo is focusing on, leading me to disagree with the multiple SKU speculation. They are aiming for a low price point, but if they are really going for mass market, a multiple SKU release could be confusing. I could see a regular SKU and a "pro" SKU, similar to the 360 elite/arcade options.
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