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Movies You've Seen Recently |OT| September 2016

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Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
Siberiade- Andrey Konchalovskiy

260 minutes. Sweet Jesus. These guys had some monster balls to do these type of movies. So clean. So much ambition. The story of several generations in a village in Siberia and how the revolution affects them. This film has a very interesting dynamic with nature and it's role in our lives. We see it being consumed in name of our progress. A combo of imagery/sound that is as unique as I have ever seen. Very contemplative, long, with an immensity of characters. All wrapped with a synth soundtrack. A bold style of filmmaking that perforates russian art.

Konchalovskiy would get a bit of fame with this movie and flee to Usa where he ended up making a bunch of movies including...Tango and Cash. Crazy.


I remember when they fired him from the movie (or he just walked out), his comment about T&C being "dumber than a cow's lament" or something, lol

Captain America: Civil War; as far as superhero movies go it's pretty damn good; a bit disjointed at times, some lull in the middle (like jeez, enough Vision doing the housemaid) but necessary because there's so much action; Tom Holland is a perfect Spider-Man, T'Challa is badass (couldn't help to think about Jaffe Joffer when his dad was on screen though) and Bucky, woah, was not expecting him to be the main plot device...and he just drops bodies like Snyder drops humongous turds. Imagine Jason Bourne with a metal arm and there he is fighting fifteen soldiers at once. That was great, honestly
 
Has always been one of my least favorites from him, and it's always the one everyone starts with.

I've made it my mission in life to recommend Wild Strawberries or Persona instead. Any work I can do against the solemn knight playing a game of chess with Death as THE initial Bergman go-to, that's my goal.
 
Isn't Persona kind of a bad starting point because of the huge shift in style? I haven't watched my copy yet, but that's what I've been told so I've been watching some of his 50's stuff before I get to it.
 
Aight aight, I'll get to it eventually.

The seventh seal is pretty chill tho guys. It's more than just solemn knight playig death in an allegorical game of chess, it's a pitch black buddy comedy romp through plague ridden Europe. Gunnar Bjornstrand is so good in it as the squire.
 

JTripper

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Persona's style is jarring but I didn't find it to be that incomprehensibly complex. It's definitely one of those "difficult" films though. On the other hand, Wild Strawberries would be my required viewing pick for anyone interested in Bergman. That movie is fucking good ya dig?

Saw I Knew Her Well yesterday. It's sorta like La Dolce Vita-lite but features a female protagonist who seems completely unaware of her actions and their consequences for most of the film, as opposed to Marcello in Vita. It follows the same sort of episodic structure too (but with less variety) with recurring characters and such, with some nice editing and music. The opening scene especially lends the film to be compared to La Dolce Vita since it made me think that it could possibly have taken place in a similar location from where Vita ends; except La Dolce Vita has a much better ending imo. I Knew Her Well could have ended 15 minutes prior to the final scene that's there and I would have been more satisfied.
 
The reason you start in the 50s (or at least with The Seventh Seal) is so you build up to the heavier and more formally adventurous stuff. There's so much material there that it works best when you see his style evolve and watch how he adapts his world view with each successive movie. Jumping in with Persona......I mean, sure, you could, but I wouldn't recommend it. It hits harder when you build up to it.
 

TissueBox

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The Seventh Seal is his narrative at its most lateral and conventionally audacious and for that I still regard it as his best film on certain Fridays (the imagery and allegorical framework, while blatant, bring visually unforgettable scenes -- that's either a lost boldness or misguided influence on films today).

However, Fanny And Alexander is one of the masterpieces of all cinema in every dimension and Persona is on a league of its own. Wild Strawberries and Autumn Sonata are, I think, good starting entries into his film canon...but Net Wrecker has a point too. Bergman''s one of those directors whose films set up one another and form a chronology of their own, in a way.

My first film from him was Winter Light, however, and that was as cold as the title implies, lol.
 
Winter Light is the movie people think about when they wanna parody '60s europe art movies. Incredibly depressing, glacially paced, God is fuckin' dead and we're all going to hell in this gorgeously shot cold world.
 
Starting with Winter Light is like jumping into the dark middle chapter of a filmography that's already largely dark middle chapter. Instant depression. Maybe even off-putting if you don't know what you're dealing with.
 

TissueBox

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Yes, actually put me off for a bit as, while I admired its rawness, found its frosty, sullenly shot polemic against goodness and purpose (and etc.) harshly intimidating.

Now after having watched the sort-of faith trilogy in its entirety and viewing Winter Light as a personal self-analysis and acknowledgement of Bergman's own troubled past it becomes a very fascinating look at a very battered, defeated, tainted faith.

The letter scene with Thulin's character speaking directly to the screen and the scene afterward with Gunner's character brutally admonishing her in turn
are some of the most back-to-back painfully brilliant segments Bergman's filmed circa that time period, though.
 
Winter Light is the movie people think about when they wanna parody '60s europe art movies. Incredibly depressing, glacially paced, God is fuckin' dead and we're all going to hell in this gorgeously shot cold world.

there's a good persona parody in godards weekend

winter light is one of his best I've seen but yeah it's cold as shit
 

UberTag

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Moonlight - This is one hell of a special cinematic achievement. The fact that this film exists at all is a minor miracle but that it has wound up impeccably flawless is quite another. This is a coming of age character study that is long overdue and I say that as a straight white male.

There is such sensitivity exuded in all of the performances... most notably from Mahershala Ali in Act 1, Jharrel Jerome in Act 2, Trevante Rhodes and André Holland in Act 3 and Naomie Harris all the way through all merit praise. But, most deservedly, that credit belongs to director Barry Jenkins without whom this film would not exist.

This will be the best reviewed film of the year. It would be the favorite to win Best Picture already if not for a certain musical romance that doubles as a love letter to Hollywood and old school cinema from years gone past. 9.5/10 (FYI, I don't give out perfect 10s until I get to revisit a film for a 2nd screening.)

Lion - For an aspiring Best Picture contender, this film turned out to be a major disappointment. Excessively heavy-handed with the Google Earth connection playing out like an infomercial courtesy of incidental characters who were promptly disposed of and unnecessary romantic tension between Dev Patel's Saroo and Rooney Mara's Lucy that felt needlessly tacked on. The only memorable acting on display came courtesy of Nicole Kidman in a single scene where she was effectively monologuing to the camera prior to the blatant button-pushing of the final 20 minutes which, admittedly, worked as the majority of the theater was in tears. 5.5/10

Aquarius - This was a well-acted but largely unfocused effort shouldered by an outstanding performance courtesy of Brazilian veteran Sonia Braga. I'm not sure a battle of wills between the sole remaining tenant of an apartment complex and a real estate developer needed close to 2 1/2 hours of material or an expansive 3-act structure (which seemed to be the theme of the day) but it was still watchable thanks to Braga even though the story beats seemed to get recycled endlessly. 7/10

The Belko Experiment - Despite some trademark amusing one-liners courtesy of James Gunn's first script post-Guardians of the Galaxy and a relatively expansive cast list of memorable Hollywood B-listers for the genre, this latest take on the Battle Royale gimmick fails to tread into original territory. There's some requisite nice gore but you've seen all of these same story beats before and this feels like wasted potential. Watching it just a few short days after the superior Free Fire certainly didn't do it any favors. 5/10

The Handmaiden - I'm not sure what I was expecting from Chan-wook Park's first combined writing/directorial effort since 2009's Thirst (and only his third since wrapping up his famous Vengeance trilogy) but I know I wasn't expecting such a visually arresting period thriller. The production design on display is award-worthy. Not only that but I haven't seen this much female-on-female eroticism on screen since Blue is the Warmest Color. Not that I'm complaining at all.

This felt like a live-action smutty seinen manga... the kind that don't get animated because they dare to have a plot. The consistent fusion of both Japanese and Korean dialogue reinforced this perception and, while this film is unabashedly trashy and the way the plot played out was wholly predictable, it was still a thoroughly enthralling movie from beginning to end with a mystery that peeled away like an onion and didn't feel lengthy in the slightest - although it may well feel shorter in certain markets upon release thanks to some expected censorship (which was thankfully absent from this cut). 9/10
 
Don't Breathe : It didn't do much for me. I guess people love it cause it's a thriller that doesn't completely suck, but it seemed pretty run of the mill for me, and there was quite a few WTF plot holes in there.

The Witch : This one is much better, but I again I feel it was a bit hyped. It is very effective, especially with what it has, but I feel some of it was boring and a bit of a drag. The final act is pretty great though.

Neon Demon : As always, absolutely mesmerizing visuals from Refn, but this feels even more pretentious than Only God Forgives.

The Shallows : The premise and the build up was pretty good, but I feel like it ultimately didn't live up to it's potential.
 

UrbanRats

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I started with Wild Strawberries, and felt pretty good about it.
It had most of Bergman's traits, and it's not as out there as Seventh Seal, in terms of setting (most of his movies i've seen aren't, so that's why i think it's a good starting point).
 

zoukka

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Eyes of Crystal. A modern Giallo that works! The mystery isn't as intriguing as in the classics of the genre, but still good enough to keep you guessing till the end. Some really nasty practical effects gore and dark themes. Good cinematography.

Recommended to all horror/thriller/giallo fans.
 
Pets's Dragon. It was ok, I guess. Very predictably kid story.

Kimi no Na Wa on the other hand... Probably one of the best anime movies I've ever seen, easily up there with Ghibli standard.
 

petran79

Banned
The Room.

First part was fine and I thought the movie would take place there till the end. Suddenly everything changes and I feel as if I am watching a different film, much less interesting. Skipped some parts in the second part
 
Six Degrees of Separation

Based off a play, Will Smith plays a con-man who wants to be famous in New York, so he meets all these rich people at their homes (separately) and tells them his 'life story'. He's the son of Sidney Poitier, arguably the greatest black actor ever to date, and promises them a role in the film version of Cats and is a charming and smart young man who captivates them with musings of his own about Catcher in the Rye and other 'classic' books.

The next morning, he's caught in bed with a male friend and is kicked out, so then Donald Sutherland and Stockard Channing (who are both fantastic in this) have an amazing story to tell and can't wait to tell their friends. Unfortunately it turns out that Smith has told their friends his 'story' too so they realise that Smith needs help and then the story takes off from there.

I thought this film was great fun. Very, very different role from what Will Smith usually plays and he's excellent. The way the film was structured was a bit all over the place and the editing was the same, but generally the script was superb and it was weird to see JJ Abrams without glasses :lol, had no idea it was him until I checked IMDB.

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4/5
 

Saad

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What Korean movies would you suggest for a newbie to watch? I've recently seen Memories of Murder and enjoyed it dearly. The other movie I've seen is Oldboy a few years back and it was also pretty good.

I'm open to any genre, but something with a historical setting is most welcome.
 
What Korean movies would you suggest for a newbie to watch? I've recently seen Memories of Murder and enjoyed it dearly. The other movie I've seen is Oldboy a few years back and it was also pretty good.

I'm open to any genre, but something with a historical setting is most welcome.

Admiral and Assassination are recent entertaining historical movies (very different from each other and nothing like MM or Oldboy).

I watched Musa many years ago and remember finding it very decent.

I remember when they fired him from the movie (or he just walked out), his comment about T&C being "dumber than a cow's lament" or something, lol

I kinda have a thing for T&C though.
 
What Korean movies would you suggest for a newbie to watch? I've recently seen Memories of Murder and enjoyed it dearly. The other movie I've seen is Oldboy a few years back and it was also pretty good.

I'm open to any genre, but something with a historical setting is most welcome.

The Good, The Bad, The Weird
Mother
A Tale of Two Sisters
The Host
Chaser
Thirst
 

Rhoc

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Daddy's Home
Found it on Amazon Prime and thought how bad could it be. I have to say laughed quite a few times and enjoyed it. I didn't watch any trailer beforehand so i didn't know the best scenes.

6 out of 10
 

Blader

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25th Hour
Rewatch. My opinion of this movie is about the same as it was the first time I saw it: Ed Norton (and Brian Cox, in the few scenes he's in) are fantastic and lift every scene that they're in; Philip Seymour Hoffman and especially Barry Pepper's characters feel fake and forced as hell, and any scene that's just them and without Norton is an obnoxious drag. Thankfully, Norton is in most every scene. Cinematography and score are pretty good, too.
8/10
 
I watched about half of World War Z this morning, when I couldn't sleep. I'll finish it later. It's kind of silly, and a bit too crazy, but it's okay.

Are any of these worth watching?

Shelter (Mackie/Connolly)
The Maze Runner
The Maze Runner: Scorch Trials
 

Linkark07

Banned
Star Trek Beyond

What can I say? I liked it. Loved the interactions between Bones and Spock, the action sequences and the new character. It is a shame this didn't get more money, it really deserved it.
 
Star Trek Beyond

What can I say? I liked it. Loved the interactions between Bones and Spock, the action sequences and the new character. It is a shame this didn't get more money, it really deserved it.

This is probably the most fun summer movie of 2016. I really enjoyed it. It is definitely a bummer it didn't do better domestically, but it's over $300M WW so maybe we'll get another one.
 

daydream

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Crazy, Stupid Love: The film suffers from all sorts of stereotyping and maudlin cliché but, ultimately, the sharp and witty script prevail to finally a render a contemporary romcom a pleasant and even funny experience. To my surprise, the film is rather well shot on top of that while the comedic timing is emphasised competently by the editing. The basic idea of the film, a 'love staccato', of sorts, helps alleviate usual misgivings about overly orchestrated conjuncture by very clearly exposing it as primary conceit of the film. As such, it is treated with satisfactory creativity and variation, albeit not in a particularly comprehensive or penetrating manner. Still, a valiant effort remains in what is undoubtedly one of the most dire states a major film genre has ever found itself in and it ultimately stands out without requiring a special discount or abatement incited by the shortcomings of its peers.
 

Stainless

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Saw Pete's Dragon. Took my 8 yr old. It was...well, you know, Pete's Dragon

Kubo and the Two Strings, however, was completely awesome and I loved it
 

TheFlow

Banned
Jungle book(2016)


soooo good. my child was done right. only gripe is they should of ended it here. Now we will get a sequel that might not be so good.


4/5
 

lordxar

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I watched about half of World War Z this morning, when I couldn't sleep. I'll finish it later. It's kind of silly, and a bit too crazy, but it's okay.

Are any of these worth watching?

Shelter (Mackie/Connolly)
The Maze Runner
The Maze Runner: Scorch Trials

I liked Maze Runner. It's teeny stuff but was kind of fun. Been wanting to see the sequel but haven't yet.
 

Sean C

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The Room.

First part was fine and I thought the movie would take place there till the end. Suddenly everything changes and I feel as if I am watching a different film, much less interesting. Skipped some parts in the second part
I believe you mean Room. The Room is a very different film.

I started with Wild Strawberries, and felt pretty good about it.
It had most of Bergman's traits, and it's not as out there as Seventh Seal, in terms of setting (most of his movies i've seen aren't, so that's why i think it's a good starting point).
I believe I started with The Seventh Seal, though Smiles of a Summer Night would also be a good place to start with Bergman, I think.
 

SeanC

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Hell or High Water - Found it really good carried by spectacular acting. Probably Chris Pine's best performance by a mile. Love how it looked, it captures Texas/Oklahoma really well too (I'm from the area and I felt like I just went back home). Great looking movie and I just love the pace of it all and the great characters.

The King of Comedy - The only Scorsese I never got around to seeing. It's a very uncomfortable movie, a constant sense of uneasiness because it's obvious Pupkin is mentally disturbed but it's also one of those movies where you're kind of routing for him....but at the same time you just wish he wouldn't do it. Also Jerry Lewis's career-best performance as he's playing himself essentially, also Sandra Bernhard played Sandra Bernhard very well but I don't think that was quite as intentional.

I think I was uncomfortable with it because I've met people like Pupkin through my job. I know one day some woman just walked into the office and asked to see a client (we're reps, the clients aren't actually there) and she said "Oh, I'll wait." Of course, had to call security. The scene of Pupkin going back to Jerry's offices reminded me of that to the point where I had to pause and take a breath. A little too close to home.
 
Jaws: You could really divide this movie in half: the beach half and the ocean half. The beach half does a good job of having attacks without showing the shark, which is good, because you don't know when it'll show up. It can be a bit dull at times, but the movie gets more interesting when Hooper shows up. The ocean half can be slow, but it's like regular fishing: it's about patience. John Williams does a bang-up job on the score, and not just for the main theme.

And now they don't owe Quint the $10,000

Jaws 19: The most underrated movie of 2015. Even without the holographic 3D, you have great cinematography, characters, music, and writing. Shark still looks fake though.
 
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