Eolz
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You can't improve battery life all while making it the most powerful one on the market. Tradeoffs have to be made.
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You can't improve battery life all while making it the most powerful one on the market. Tradeoffs have to be made.
Capcom did state that they would show up "following first party" in that fiscal report, so I assume they meant that to mean they weren't going to bother for launch.
You expected all those games at launch ?
MHXX made sense but the other ones werent really in the cards at launch titles.
Bomberman really happen lol. My wish and hope is granted.^^
Now, lets hope for Megaman lolol.
Capitan calm down bruh. I don't see all those title as launch title lol.
True, I expected at least a tease or a brand thrown out there.
They did. Street Fighter!
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I would say it doesn't make much sense to launch in March then, but considering how barren the launch for switch is, I don't actually think it'll affect xx all that much.
I'm assuming they'll have a rebranded, more portable Switch (like the Switch Go or whatever) in a couple of years, but that it will be the same internal hardware.
They need to wait for the die shrink on the Tegra to up the battery life though, and combined with a smaller screen, that should do the trick.
But yes, this is basically the successor family of the 3DS. They just know it's a much harder pitch as a handheld than a console right now, so they're focusing on the console aspects.
DarkLordMalik
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3DS received Street Fighter IV...........
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Hey that version probably outside SFV!
Yeah, I suppose. Just put that out as a traditional portable that shares the same library. Still, if that's a thing it's not happening for at least a year. I don't see Pokémon going to what we have coming March.
EDIT: Well, maybe it is coming to that. It's gonna have a pitiful install base in Japan, though.
Eurogamer's seemingly been spot on with every leak, so...
I honestly don't even know what to make of that announcement.
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Which was honestly an awful idea. They would have been better off ditching the portal aspect, upping the internals and selling this thing for $100-$150. Sell the actual portal version with the die shrink later on and create the same software for both.
Naaah, it's just that they've not announced those titles today, but we can be absolutely sure most of them exist (like Smash 4 and Pokemon Stars).
Not all of them were/are false but some were way off the mark.
Vern was spot on with his stuff though, people gave him a bit of grief(myself included) but he wasn't wrong.
Some like the date and price were wrong, but some of the other stuff is still likely true.
Okay here's my serious hot take on the Switch situation. Now that there is a price and a software list and everything is in the open, I feel this speculation will make a lot more sense.
Right now the Switch is absolutely a home console and this is very important for Nintendo. This is their replacement for the WiiU and they need it out asap because the WiiU is a rotting corpse. Everything they have announced at the conference thus far points to a console level launch in March, followed by the support of console titles throughout 2017.
Why? Because they are still selling the 3DS and their partners are still releasing 3DS games in the near future. This will change drastically by October 2017. The Fall Nintendo Direct will move towards the next stage of the Switch branding. It will move to replace the 3DS in 2018 and beyond as the portable of choice. They will offer a lower priced Switch as a portable without a dock, possibly at as low as 20,000yen. They will also begin to announce portable centric software which directly replaces 3DS titles - Monster Hunter, Pokemon, Level5 games, etc.
Will it work? Who knows, but I'm 90% certain this is the strategy moving forward.
Right now the Switch is absolutely a home console and this is very important for Nintendo. This is their replacement for the WiiU and they need it out asap because the WiiU is a rotting corpse. Everything they have announced at the conference thus far points to a console level launch in March, followed by the support of console titles throughout 2017.
Why? Because they are still selling the 3DS and their partners are still releasing 3DS games in the near future. This will change drastically by October 2017. The Fall Nintendo Direct will move towards the next stage of the Switch branding. It will move to replace the 3DS in 2018 and beyond as the portable of choice. They will offer a lower priced Switch as a portable without a dock, possibly at as low as 20,000yen. They will also begin to announce portable centric software which directly replaces 3DS titles - Monster Hunter, Pokemon, Level5 games, etc.
Will it work? Who knows, but I'm 90% certain this is the strategy moving forward.
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4 Chan has a good track history with leaks that don't see have clearly been made up in 5 mins.
Only if you think that they wont announce further projects during the year - its only January.
It sounds like a good strategy to still do well with handhelds. They're just going to have to brand software differently for games that are compatible/incompatible.
Nothing will be compatible or incompatible. It's one hardware. The difference is the type of games people are interested in for it.
DarkLordMalik
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SFV is currently at 1.4 million sold while SFIV 3DS is at 1.2 million
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
I mean even without stuff like Level 5 and MonHun it's clear that this was pitched as some form of 3DS successor to third parties.
A standard Wii U successor wouldn't be getting a game from the Bravely team, or SMTV or Tales or Disgaea 5.
I definitely agree they'll focus more on that later though.
A standard Wii U successor wouldn't be getting a game from the Bravely team, or SMTV or Tales or Disgaea 5.
I definitely agree they'll focus more on that later though.
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The problem with this strategy is that a poor intial switch response will have a a substantial knock on effect to any 3DS still brand switching (namely that 3rd parties will jump ship from the platform full) Even a complete brand will not stop that. Which is why ensuring this intial console was a success was paramount.
However Nintendo was not acting like a company that took that seriously. Paying for online, the high price point without a pack, low amount of launch titles. Those are the sorts of moves a company that was willing to sacrifice mass market penetration for profitability.
I would expect it to not have detachable controllers, for one. Stuff like 1, 2, Switch would be incompatible in that case.
Well, i keep reading the leak that we are going to get the game ASAP but voila nothing really show up lol. Xeno X port does not show up. Smash 4 Port also not showed up,no Retro Game, no Beyond Evil 2, no Rabbids x Mario game. I am perplexed on how much miss they can hit there.
But won't this move only work for Japan market? Won't this mean Ninty give up totally outside of Jp now?
But won't this move only work for Japan market? Won't this mean Ninty give up totally outside of Jp now?
No? But they could have been announced if in development (like other games far away from release have been) and SHOULD have been announced to give a clear and strong idea of the console
I still remember the sales effect on 3DS that the simple announcement of mh3u and mh4 had
You are probably right
But it wont work
Switch brand will be aleeady damaged and third parties will not suddenly start to develop for a console that is and has struggled on the market in its first year
They totally botched the product transition of a strong (for them ) concept
Is that really so important? The third parties who care about this know what the plan would be if they are manufacturing a cheaper handheld unit.
It's not "damage" as much as it is Nintendo not having the actual thing JP developers are interested in ready for launch.
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Shipped not sold. We don't know what SFV actually sold as like it's 3DS counterpart was channel stuffed like a motherfucker. For the past few quarters it hasn't had any more shipmentsSFV is currently at 1.4 million sold while SFIV 3DS is at 1.2 million
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
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What's the appeal in XCX when we are getting a more anime XB2 now? I call BS on that rumor.
Smash is a sure fire release though, but maybe they want to wait for more characters along with Amiibo.
Smash is a sure fire release though, but maybe they want to wait for more characters along with Amiibo.
Why does it even matter here? I am not sure what we are even arguing here. I said Switch is getting SF2 while 3DS received SFIV (still a popular new game) at launch. Big difference.
If you expect the Switch to completely fail as a console, then yes, no strategy will "save" it. I am simply outlining what I think Nintendo's strategy is for the rest of the year, and how they plan on positing the Switch as both console (first) and portable (later). If the Switch completely fails, no one will know what might happen next.
No I expect any portable model to be the exact same thing. The point is that you can pay more for a Dock to upgrade the system if you want to, but it would not be compulsory.
No I expect any portable model to be the exact same thing. The point is that you can pay more for a Dock to upgrade the system if you want to, but it would not be compulsory.
Xeno X but portable would still have some appeal for a quick, cheap port. It would survive the transition a lot better than XC too.
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The 3rd parties that care are already looking to jump ship in the first place. why do you think Capcom has barely announced anything and level 5 absolute zip. If this thing bombs the likelihood they have stuff in the pipeline for the rebrand is very low. they'll have moved to mobile or PS4 by that time.
If the screen with two Joy-Cons is what you're referring to as a cheap, standalone release in the future, then I don't see it performing too well. That thing is massive. That could just be me, though.
It would ensure it to work with the dock, though.
The alternative to that thinking would be that they're not interested with the current plans for the Switch on March, but will be willing to jump in when there's a handheld unit specifically for the Japanese market.
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I said it's probably outsold meaning, I'm working on the assumption that SFIV 3Ds has likely sold almost all it's shipment by now whereas SFV is likely more than a mere 200k off.
What's the appeal in remastering FFXII on a system that already has FFXV, FFX, and FFX-2?
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I wish I was as optimistic as the others in this thread.
We just had an event which was hyped for months and yet the big announcements with regards to third party from this event was.... meh.
They showed XB2 which looks like it won't be out until 2018 but had trouble showing other games in development set to launch in 2018? I don't believe it.
Capcom had so many potential announcements for Switch. AA, MH and even SF could have been announced, yet we heard nothing from them. Even Level 5 was absent.
SE had their DQ announcement but that was old news by then and Heroes pack-in is not some exciting 'system seller'.
FF is a series with wildly different entries where XII will cater to a specific set of fans while X-X2 are for the turn-based fans and XV is for action fans. Correct me if I am wrong but XB retains the series' combat so it is not like there is an incentive to play it on Switch. The story is set apart from XB1 so it won't matter to play for XB 2.
We just had an event which was hyped for months and yet the big announcements with regards to third party from this event was.... meh.
They showed XB2 which looks like it won't be out until 2018 but had trouble showing other games in development set to launch in 2018? I don't believe it.
Capcom had so many potential announcements for Switch. AA, MH and even SF could have been announced, yet we heard nothing from them. Even Level 5 was absent.
SE had their DQ announcement but that was old news by then and Heroes pack-in is not some exciting 'system seller'.
Except XBX sales and critical wise is nowhere close to XB 1.
FF is a series with wildly different entries where XII will cater to a specific set of fans while X-X2 are for the turn-based fans and XV is for action fans. Correct me if I am wrong but XB retains the series' combat so it is not like there is an incentive to play it on Switch. The story is set apart from XB1 so it won't matter to play for XB 2.
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If they were interested at all in a home console version that acts as a handheld. What makes you think they'll be interested in a pure handheld. Keep in mind the only difference is price and the fact it can be docked and the price of the switch as is can be cut.
And here i thought that game will be priced reasonably. GG S-E.O_O
XB2 Launch time in 2017 though?
I dunno, cheaper to buy, size that (kinda) fits the preferences of the Japanese market, which would lead to an increased user base to entice third parties to jump in?