Punches != running people over with cars
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Pregnant woman ran down a fleeing man 'who stole purse from her car' in Walmart
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velociraptor
Junior Member
Can't say I blame her. I don't think she should be punished. She's pregnant - women are emotionally vulnerable in this state.
Amir0x level thuggery? Did I miss something?
Amir0x level thuggery? Did I miss something?
This is an absolutely insane statement.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
He was arrested for possession of child pornography.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Her reaction was indeed excessive but one must view this case holistically. Doesn't seem like the perp was killed though.
ClosingADoor
Member
Running people over with cars != automatic death.
Being victim of a robbery != clear state of mind to determine best course of action.
See how this is not as easy as it seems.
Theonik
Member
Oh damn. Is that true? Was there a thread?
How would you feel if she took out a gun and shot him in the back as he ran away? Honest question. Because I can't distinguish between that and what she did in any material way, and I want to know if you think shooting an unarmed person as they run away is an okay thing to do in response to petty theft.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, this is a very disturbing recurring theme in this topic. A lot of users are perfectly OK with attempted murder just because the woman was pregnant, even though the thief literally posed *ZERO* physical harm to her. At one point you had to ask yourself, is a purse with some cash or ANY material item worth risking your own and most importantly, your unborn child's life over ? The answer is no, it should be an immediate no. If you say yes, god help you.
There's a lot of vigilantes in this thread. Wonder if they also support capital punishment and/or using Sharia tactics like cutting thieves' hands, flogging etc.
No they really aren't, unless you're in the habit of forgiving attempted murderers on a regular basis, no amount of adrenaline or hormones justify attempted murder. Are you going to start agreeing with gun violence because one party 'feared for their life' next ?
Holy shit ..
oh wow, I just did a quick post search, you're not joking
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Once again, this thread is nuts.
People come out of the woodwork to defend worse shit, I'm not surprised. Had the theif died, you'd still have people posting callous comments like "Can't say I feel bad for his death" and "he had it coming".
Bloodlust and a retributive worldview kind of does that to a person though.
Yeah, if there already isn't a thread, this definitely deserves it. Holy shit!
Say what you will, I don't see another option and I hate it when people think they can commit a crime and get away with it.
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ElectricBlanketFire
Member
You literally don't see another option than to run someone over with your car in a busy parking lot for stealing a purse?
dantevsninjas
Member
All the "he deserved it types"; so basically you think theft should be a capital offense? Is there any crime we shouldn't just mow people down for?
velociraptor
Junior Member
Why are there so many people in this thread defending the rights of criminals? If he had the audacity to steal from a pregnant woman in the first place, he probably was a cunt anyway. So a thief got injured. Boohoo.
Here's an option: call the police and report the theft.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
There's a difference between 'defending the criminal's rights' and 'not agreeing with attempted murder'.
I doubt you'll see anyone say the criminal was in the right here. But y'all saying the person DESERVED it are cray cray.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
He went through the woman's car. He wasn't specifically targeting a pregnant woman. This wasn't a strong-arm robbery.
This "hysterical pregnant woman" argument is insulting.
Dude had absolutely no idea that his victim was a pregnant woman. He saw a purse in a car. No one should ever be murdered for petty theft. She tried to murder him. Even if the guy is a terrible dude, her crime is significantly worse.
Wtf, why isnt there a thread on this?
Silent Chief
Member
He broke into her SUV though. If that's not enough for someone to feel threatened, I don't know what is. I give her the benefit of the doubt unless she's a cop. A cop is supposed to be trained to deal with this.
There was. This is EL's post about it. amir0x is permed and there's not much more to say, but you can find the article about in the thread. Let's not derail this one.
Edit: beaten soundly.
Damn she wasn't fucking around. Not taking any sides since both were wrong here. He shouldn't have stole from her and she shouldn't have struck him with her car. I don't think she should have to face the maximum punishment since the guy did initiate the event with theft, but she does deserve something for this extreme act.
Incendiary
Banned
"Why are there so many people in this thread defending the rights of criminals? If he had the audacity to steal from a convenience store in the first place, he probably was a cunt anyway. So a thief got killed. Boohoo."
Just changed a few words in your post to illustrate what you sound like.
I know it's not nearly the same situation, but it's attitudes like this that let cops get away with what they do when they have they option of deadly force.
Silent Chief
Member
That's ridiculous. A car isn't a public space. Americans drive around with guns to shoot people trying to get into their car. That's an invasion.
This.
To emphasize if you change the word with smoking weed and you sound like certain GOP senators.
Hickbilly Deluxe
Banned
I hope people that keep saying that know that of he had turned around and shot her dead while she was chasing him in the car, he would have been justified in doing so.
Woman or not, pregnant or not, victim or not, what she did was wrong and disgusting and she should be punished for it.
Im pretty sure many posters here will react so nicely when they go through the shit a lot of people like the woman go through...judging by the many threads asking if how they reacted was alright, I say not.
She was pregnant, running she would have never caught him, it was the only thing she could do even if it was not the best thing to do.
As the quotes say, maybe you do wrong to someone who is crazier.
She was pregnant, running she would have never caught him, it was the only thing she could do even if it was not the best thing to do.
As the quotes say, maybe you do wrong to someone who is crazier.
This is insane. Everyone is trained to deal with this. Be upset but don't try and kill someone.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/pregnant-s...dly-running-suspected-thief/story?id=48350156
In this video, they mention that her maximum sentence is apparently only 2 years which is absolutely crazy. I assume this is due to the fact she was only charged with a misdemeanor.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
A parking lot is a public space. Hence why you shouldn't speed through it recklessly to try and run down a purse thief.
More "pregnant women are crazy" bullshit.
He's saying the thief had no clue she was pregnant when he broke into her car.
First, I would have asked this dude why are you in my car and why should I not fuck you up...just to see his response.
I don't recall lending you anything.
He would have at the least caught a two piece to the jugular for that transgression before the cops came.
Look at this shit. Similar situation caught red handed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eTtihdolLHY&time_continue=4
Why are you in my car? Shit is insulting. You can't put no hands on a woman but shit I would've had some choice words for her. I would've made sure the cops were there.
I don't recall lending you anything.
He would have at the least caught a two piece to the jugular for that transgression before the cops came.
Look at this shit. Similar situation caught red handed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eTtihdolLHY&time_continue=4
Why are you in my car? Shit is insulting. You can't put no hands on a woman but shit I would've had some choice words for her. I would've made sure the cops were there.
Calm down. She didn't murder anyone nor was it attempted murder. You're not an attorney (I don't think you are), so you shouldn't be talking about the legal ramifications.
Get off your holier than thou high horse.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Seriously, acting all high and mighty because they don't believe in running over people with their cars for petty theft.
You don't know the contents of that purse. I'll never side with the douchebag thieves. Infringing on personal property brings an inherent risk in this country.
That is 100% attempted murder. You do not accelerate your car and run someone down without murderous intent in mind.
It is not 100% attempted murder and there isn't enough evidence (yet, at least) to prove it. An attempted murder charge will get thrown out faster than a 2 day old Mcdonalds burger.
Unless someone is an attorney, they should not be discussing the charges a prosecutor can bring. Otherwise, it's just opinions that mean nothing.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
So you're cool if, say, an unarmed man gets shot and killed by police while fleeing?
Incendiary
Banned
"It is not 100% attempted robbery and there isn't enough evidence (yet, at least) to prove it.
Unless someone is an attorney, they should not be discussing the charges a prosecutor can bring. Otherwise, it's just opinions that mean nothing."
I can do this all day.
I think the dude that used a Katana to stop some home invaders (NSFW) would agree with you. I guarantee they would take back that night in a minute so would this guy that got run over. Went to steal and got way more than expected.