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Watched Avengers 1 again and the movie still holds up (except for Caps ridiculous head gear).
It's Coulson's fault!!!
Watched Avengers 1 again and the movie still holds up (except for Caps ridiculous head gear).
For those wondering how Strange got Everyone there... Remember he saw 14 million possible outcomes with the time Stone... To ensure everyone came .. he probably told Wong 5 years prior to get every wizard to portal these specific people at these locations to join the fight at Avengers mansion.
I wished they had given a rematch between Strange and Maw with Strange moping the floor with Maw this time before moving on to holding back the flood. I feel some of the following scenes could have been removed/shortened to give extra time in the 3rd act to show some extra fight moments:
1. The finger football between Tony and Nebula.
2. Quill's dance routine with Nebula and Rhodes watching.
3. Jokes about America's ass.
4. Shortened discussion between Tony and Howard.
5. The cheeseburger scene at the end between happy and Tony's kid.
6. Fortnite noobmaster scene with Thor.
7. Shortened scenes in Asguard with Thor, Frigg and Rocket.
1, 4 and 5 are my favorite scenes in the movie -_-
Scarlett witch could beat Tony, and possibly thor, straight up though (1v1). I am convinced she is the most powerful character in the mcu.Sorry but that video made no sense. Armor + a big sword doesn't even equal one Infinity Stone. We just need to admit this was a badly written movie and move on.
And no, he wasn't stronger in Endgame. He seemed strong because Thor was fat, and Tony was old. Scarlet Witch was still able to mess him up pretty good.
lame as fuck
Dr. Strange knew because the time stone showed him exactly what was going to happen. And being able to teleport instantly across the universe is a help when organising logistics.You just gotta go with everyone showing up. It was my big peeve too, like how everyone knew Thanos was there 10 minutes after he destroyed the Avengers HQ.
Dr. Strange knew because the time stone showed him exactly what was going to happen. And being able to teleport instantly across the universe is a help when organising logistics.
Well, Dr. Strange was dusted until Hulk made the snap. So he just needed to know that as soon as he came back he had to teleport everyone to the Avengers base. I don't think it is crazy that it took a few minutes to teleport to everyone and bring them together, considering people are already complaining that he did it too quickly...So he knew the exact date and time that it was going to happen? He saw the 5 year time jump and knew on Tuesday the 18th at 6:45 PM Thanos was going to start a giant war?
I can buy he saw the future and knew there would be a giant battle, but I can't really buy that he knew the exact date/time down to almost the minute to show up. Ohh and if he knew why did he wait till Thanos was kicking ass to show up, why not a few minutes earlier? I guess he knew it would make a great dramatic entrance for him to show up then, almost as if he read the script LOL.
Look I just turn off my brain and accept the movie. It was worth it for me to see cap wield the Hammer, say Avengers Assemble, and I am Iron Man lines. Seeing the payoff to Cap and Tony's stories and the final battle made the movie worthwhile and allowed me to suspend my disbelief and just go with whatever the Russo's threw at me.
Well, Dr. Strange was dusted until Hulk made the snap. So he just needed to know that as soon as he came back he had to teleport everyone to the Avengers base. I don't think it is crazy that it took a few minutes to teleport to everyone and bring them together, considering people are already complaining that he did it too quickly...
I get that there are plenty of things you just have to accept, like Captain Marvel being AWOL, Iron Man being out for just enough time to give Cap his "moment", all the female characters happening to come together. But I think the Russos did put some planning behind a lot of the core plot points.
This is where I disagree, I don't think the Russo's put planning behind most of the plot points. I think they had a big idea to Empire Strikes Back Infinity War dust everyone. Made a shocking and sad moment, but it wrote themselves into a corner.
And to get out of that corner they had to come up with this crazy time travel plot. Its the same reason why there was a useless 5 year time jump. Because they wanted to give Tony something to make him conflicted about undoing the snap, his daughter. It wouldn't have been as emotional if she was a baby so 5 year time jump it is. Isn't it going to be odd when that gay guy who went on his first date, his first gay husband is un dusted and he has a new lover LOL?
Not taking away from the movie, the end battle and a lot of the fan service moments made it a decent enough time, but its below IW and Avengers 1, just edging out 2.
IMO I think it would of been better off to have Thanos get the time stone on Titan, end IW 1 with no snap and then go into essentially the final battle of Endgame. The whole dusting and time travel stuff was kinda pointless (outside of putting our hero's at their lowest points) since in the end everyone was undusted anyways.
I just assumed in the 10 minutes from when Hulk snapped to the time everyone portaled in that Strange just got in touch with everyone,.For those wondering how Strange got Everyone there... Remember he saw 14 million possible outcomes with the time Stone... To ensure everyone came .. he probably told Wong 5 years prior to get every wizard to portal these specific people at these locations to join the fight at Avengers mansion.
Didn't Spider-Man say when they woke up Strange said that it had been 5 years and Tony needed their help?I can buy he saw the future and knew there would be a giant battle, but I can't really buy that he knew the exact date/time down to almost the minute to show up.
I think the reason they didn't do this is they wanted to respect and be true to the source material. In the comics, Thanos is almost unstoppable even without any infinity stones. We saw that on Titan, when he got a spaceship dropped on him, and in Endgame, where he tanks Thor and Iron Man's attacks with seeming ease, and "wins" at the end. Add in 5/6 infinity stones, and he should just wipe the floor with everyone, like you see him do in IW. I think the appeal of Thanos as a character is that, based on his power level, he should crush the Avengers. And to pay that off I think you have to have him winning, at least at first. And once he gets the complete gauntlet, it makes him a God (whether he chooses to dust everything or not), so it's really hard to come back from that without introducing something like time travel.IMO I think it would of been better off to have Thanos get the time stone on Titan, end IW 1 with no snap and then go into essentially the final battle of Endgame. The whole dusting and time travel stuff was kinda pointless (outside of putting our hero's at their lowest points) since in the end everyone was undusted anyways.
Both movies were written at the same time and Kevin Feige suggested time travel and asked if it could be worked in. So it seems like it was part of the plan from the early stages.The snap could have been undone just like it was in the comics if Thanos didnt destroy the stones. Maybe their plan was to do this time travel crap all along as a way to introduce the multiverse. Who knows.
Didn't Spider-Man say when they woke up Strange said that it had been 5 years and Tony needed their help?
I think the reason they didn't do this is they wanted to respect and be true to the source material. In the comics, Thanos is almost unstoppable even without any infinity stones. We saw that on Titan, when he got a spaceship dropped on him, and in Endgame, where he tanks Thor and Iron Man's attacks with seeming ease, and "wins" at the end. Add in 5/6 infinity stones, and he should just wipe the floor with everyone, like you see him do in IW. I think the appeal of Thanos as a character is that, based on his power level, he should crush the Avengers. And to pay that off I think you have to have him winning, at least at first. And once he gets the complete gauntlet, it makes him a God (whether he chooses to dust everything or not), so it's really hard to come back from that without introducing something like time travel.
The problem I have with the first Avengers film (and the sequel) is that great as the action sequences are, there is never any doubt as to what is going to happen. There is no real tension, because the whole purpose of the film is to set up the Avengers as the victors. That's why it is super cool to have a film like IW, where Thanos gets to be the victor, rather than just a throwaway one movie villain.
Thunderbolts is also heavily rumored.So phase 4...we got
Strange 2
Guardians 3
The Eternals
Black Panther 2
Cap Marvel 2 or Miss Marvel
Ant Man 3
Black Widow Prequel
Pretty solid. But it aint gonna be the same without Tony and Cap. Xmen cant come soon enough.
Its one of my favorite marvel movies. You know, opinions are like assholes, and yours stinks.this movie really does suck, they should have ended on infinity war
They will be teased though....Thunderbolts is also heavily rumored.
Kevin Feige has said that X-men will not be a part of Phase 4.
Its one of my favorite marvel movies. You know, opinions are like assholes, and yours stinks.
I wished they had given a rematch between Strange and Maw with Strange moping the floor with Maw this time before moving on to holding back the flood. I feel some of the following scenes could have been removed/shortened to give extra time in the 3rd act to show some extra fight moments:
1. The finger football between Tony and Nebula.
2. Quill's dance routine with Nebula and Rhodes watching.
3. Jokes about America's ass.
4. Shortened discussion between Tony and Howard.
5. The cheeseburger scene at the end between happy and Tony's kid.
6. Fortnite noobmaster scene with Thor.
7. Shortened scenes in Asguard with Thor, Frigg and Rocket.
This is where I disagree, I don't think the Russo's put planning behind most of the plot points. I think they had a big idea to Empire Strikes Back Infinity War dust everyone. Made a shocking and sad moment, but it wrote themselves into a corner.
And to get out of that corner they had to come up with this crazy time travel plot. Its the same reason why there was a useless 5 year time jump. Because they wanted to give Tony something to make him conflicted about undoing the snap, his daughter. It wouldn't have been as emotional if she was a baby so 5 year time jump it is. Isn't it going to be odd when that gay guy who went on his first date, his first gay husband is un dusted and he has a new lover LOL?
Not taking away from the movie, the end battle and a lot of the fan service moments made it a decent enough time, but its below IW and Avengers 1, just edging out 2.
IMO I think it would of been better off to have Thanos get the time stone on Titan, end IW 1 with no snap and then go into essentially the final battle of Endgame. The whole dusting and time travel stuff was kinda pointless (outside of putting our hero's at their lowest points) since in the end everyone was undusted anyways.
The more I think about Endgame the more annoyed I get at certain decisions made especially those around Steve Rogers. That America ass nonsense seems like it was lifted straight from the Richard Grayson/Nightwing comics from DC as there was no reference to it in the earlier movies and came out of nowhere. Then his choice to live with Peggy at the end and just appearing on the bench like that which ignores the rules of time travel set by the film. And this is something that even the writers and directors have a different opinion on whether it is this timeline or another one. Extremely few time travel films actually follow their own rules.
I wished they had given a rematch between Strange and Maw with Strange moping the floor with Maw this time before moving on to holding back the flood. I feel some of the following scenes could have been removed/shortened to give extra time in the 3rd act to show some extra fight moments:
1. The finger football between Tony and Nebula.
2. Quill's dance routine with Nebula and Rhodes watching.
3. Jokes about America's ass.
4. Shortened discussion between Tony and Howard.
5. The cheeseburger scene at the end between happy and Tony's kid.
6. Fortnite noobmaster scene with Thor.
7. Shortened scenes in Asguard with Thor, Frigg and Rocket.
1. Yes, because it went nowhere character wise.
Eh, if we were just talking IW maybe. He sucked in Endgame enough to pretty much take him out of that conversation completely for me.BTW can we all agree that Thanos will be remembered as one of cinema's classic villains? I'm talking terminator/predator level. Can't think of anything that comes close in the last 10 years since Heath Ledger's Joker.
Though I liked Endgame, I think keeping half of the characters dead would have been an interesting move and a bold way to reboot the universe with the newer characters leading the way. Also, though this is a fantasy/science fiction movie series, I think the idea of resurrection is odd and a cheap way to bring back characters usually. However it is certainly in line with the comic books where death isn't permanent. I like the ideal of the heroic sacrifice and martyrdom. Some of the deaths in this film certainly lived up to this ideal except Cap ironically (He is usually the biggest moral compass, and though he never died he is effectively out of commission as an old man) who decided to live out most of his days in another time to live the life he never got to have. Though he certainly deserves it, what he did was kind of selfish as the world now has one less hero.this movie really does suck, they should have ended on infinity war
Yeah that was a little weird. I mean I'm sure it would be traumatic but trauma shared by everyone is probably easier to get over as you could literally relate to anyone. Everyone lost someone. And shit you can play baseball anyone could go to the majors and play most likely. Start your own damn team and watch them.So much weeping in the movie by the characters, I thought there might be a flood coming. So sad, we can't pick up garbage for five years. The tears in our eyes get in the way. I swear I thought I saw the rat crying too.