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[MasterCornholio]

Basically all the games you've mentioned should be in launch window (6 months) but due covid all bets are off. Still i think all those games will be released till end of 2021. And i don't see anything able to compete with that lineup from MS.

I think Microsoft was making a huge bet that Halo Infinite and Gamepass would be huge system sellers.

 

[tuco11]

Cmon Sony ..give me the only reason to get PS5 launch day..Socom reboot.

 

[JTCx]

 

[sircaw]

If Demon souls is a day one launch game, that is huge.

i remember when i first looked at getting a ps4, it was bloodborne that really sold me.

not sure how big the souls community is, i know they are seriously hardcore, but there is no better place to play souls games than ps5, esp if bloodborne gets some sort of patch.

 

[MasterCornholio]

If Demon souls is a day one launch game, that is huge.

i remember when i first looked at getting a ps4, it was bloodborne that really sold me.

not sure how big the souls community is, i know they are seriously hardcore, but there is no better place to play souls games than ps5, esp if bloodborne gets some sort of patch.

So two RT games at launch. Anything else?

My list of games that I want to play on PS5 at launch.

1. Ghost of Tsushima
2. The Last of Us Part 2
3. Dreams
4. Spiderman Miles Morales
5. Demon Souls (if rumors are true)

That seems like a very solid lineup for me.

 

[Sinthor]

If Demon souls is a day one launch game, that is huge.

i remember when i first looked at getting a ps4, it was bloodborne that really sold me.

not sure how big the souls community is, i know they are seriously hardcore, but there is no better place to play souls games than ps5, esp if bloodborne gets some sort of patch.

The Souls community keeps growing, that's for sure. Started out fairly niche but dedicated with Demon Souls and then Dark Souls. With DS II and III though a LOT more people got involved. I wouldn't say it's near the size of fan groups for say Halo...but it's definitely a pretty large one!

 

[sircaw]

So two RT games at launch. Anything else?

wonder when rachet comes out.
hopefully with in the next year.

bugsnax full RT support.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

So it will be Spiderman and Demons Souls vs Scorn and Medium?

 

[ToadMan]

He was trolling the MS Flight Sim thread claiming that the game does nothing special, nitpicking that not every single spot in the WORLD looks perfect and that next gen didn't arrive with this game but with TLOU2 and GOT. They are more impressive than Flight.

To be honest he had a point.

As it stands, Flight Sim is broken as a flight simulation. The auto flight systems are bugged, the physics and aerodynamics are way off sim fidelity, and there are weird graphical and physics anomalies.

This “simulation” wasn’t ready for release.

The gushing over it is by non-sim users - ie casuals.

By analogy it’s like someone buying a street fighter iteration where the mechanics are broken, the inputs are laggy and unresponsive and the hit boxes aren’t fit for purpose - but they love it because the backgrounds look great.

That’s what “gamers” are saying about flight sim right now. In sim communities it’s largely disappointment and waiting years for flight sim to be fixed .... again, and at great cost because it’ll be left to 3rd party add ons to fix it.

So yeah. He was right.

 

[Nickolaidas]

So Halo Infinite gets delayed while Demon's Souls will become a launch game?

Cerny, Ryan ... what foul sorcery is this??

 

[sircaw]

The Souls community keeps growing, that's for sure. Started out fairly niche but dedicated with Demon Souls and then Dark Souls. With DS II and III though a LOT more people got involved. I wouldn't say it's near the size of fan groups for say Halo...but it's definitely a pretty large one!

i guess with souls games, you kinda know what your getting in terms of quality.

my understanding was the last halo game was not that great and after the delay and the problems with the latest one, it's hard to be a Halo fan, always being let down it seems.

 

[zaitsu]

So it will be Spiderman and Demons Souls vs Scorn and Medium?

First-party vs indie-like devs (nothing wrong about that, just we know the outcome already)

 

[JonnyMP3]

If Demon souls is a day one launch game, that is huge.

i remember when i first looked at getting a ps4, it was bloodborne that really sold me.

not sure how big the souls community is, i know they are seriously hardcore, but there is no better place to play souls games than ps5, esp if bloodborne gets some sort of patch.

Oh this 'Hardcore' community is huge mate...

Dark Souls Series Sales Surpass 27 Million Units Globally With Dark Souls 3 Selling More Than 10 Million Units

The Dark Souls series has cumulatively sold more than 27 million units globally, publisher Bandai Namco has just announced.

wccftech.com

Not even including Bloodborne or Sekiro.

 

[Nickolaidas]

i guess with souls games, you kinda know what your getting in terms of quality.

my understanding was the last halo game was not that great and after the delay and the problems with the latest one, it's hard to be a Halo fan, always being let down it seems.

Can't speak for multiplayer but I thought the single player content of Halo 5 was ten times better than Halo 1, 2 and 3 all together. Fuck the Flood. Boring The Thing rejects. At least Halo 4 and 5 added enemies who were really interesting to fight.

 

[MasterCornholio]

So it will be Spiderman and Demons Souls vs Scorn and Medium?

Yeah that doesn't look good to me. Having Spiderman and Demon Souls ready at launch is a pretty big deal.

Cerny, Ryan ... what foul sorcery is this??

Maybe the rumors of a PS5 delay are true? I meant the delay from 2019. It could be possible that developers have been working on PS5 games for a while now.

 

[sircaw]

Oh this 'Hardcore' community is huge mate...

Dark Souls Series Sales Surpass 27 Million Units Globally With Dark Souls 3 Selling More Than 10 Million Units

The Dark Souls series has cumulatively sold more than 27 million units globally, publisher Bandai Namco has just announced.

wccftech.com

Not even including Bloodborne or Sekiro.

Not even tries Sekiro yet, another one for the ps5. oh boy

 

[BlueXImpulse]

First-party vs indie-like devs (nothing wrong about that, just we know the outcome already)

There is something wrong with it in my opinion. Xbox's line up is comparatively fucking shit. Again, this is if the Demon's Souls thing is true. If it is then yeah, Xbox's is comparatively shit, on paper. Medium and Scorn could end up as 90/100 games so you never know.

 

[zaitsu]

I think sony was waiting with their show becuase they wanted to be sure they can start marketing DS as launch title and it won't be delayed due COVID.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

I'm one of those people who believe a ps5 pro will release in 2023/2024 as an 8k30/4k60 higher raytracing visuals and visuals overall and better longer draw distances.

I predict something like a 8, 12 or 16 core zen 2 cpu running at between 4-5 Ghz to give the ps5 pro 50-100% performance over ps5's cpu.

GPU will have 72 active cu's and maybe 8 disabled with a higher clockspeed than ps5 because of better cooling solutions, maybe 2.5-2.8 Ghz speeds and 64-96 rops somewhere in between 25-35 tflops rdna 3
or rdna 4 PS5 pro need to be atleast 2.5 to 3 times more powerful than ps5 maybe even 4 times more powerful thanks to better architecture of rdna 3/4.

Memory will be upgraded to GDDR6X and the amount will increase to either 20 gbs or 24 gbs and the bandwidth will most likely increase to 880 gb/s to 1tb/s.

SSD will stay the same in terms of read/write speeds of 8-9 gb/s uncompressed and 5.5 gb/s compressed but whether it will have 825 gb or 1,65 tb of storage will depend on the overall cost of the other hardware parts.

 

[Handy Fake]

I think sony was waiting with their show becuase they wanted to be sure they can start marketing DS as launch title and it won't be delayed due COVID.

I think you might be right.
Demon's Souls at launch would be huge.

 

[chilichote]

He was trolling the MS Flight Sim thread claiming that the game does nothing special, nitpicking that not every single spot in the WORLD looks perfect and that next gen didn't arrive with this game but with TLOU2 and GOT. They are more impressive than Flight.

Not even Mount Rushmore can be seen. So yeah, this "Game" is far from perfect.

 

[sircaw]

So two RT games at launch. Anything else?

My list of games that I want to play on PS5 at launch.

1. Ghost of Tsushima
2. The Last of Us Part 2
3. Dreams
4. Spiderman Miles Morales
5. Demon Souls (if rumors are true)

That seems like a very solid lineup for me.

that is a nice list and i am very close to yours as well.

1 Days gone
2 spiderman first
3 Demon souls
4 Assassins creed the last two
5 last of us 2
6 ghost of Tsushima

i have such a back log of games, its insane tbh. Tbh i don't even need launch games, i have 10+ in reserve

 

[SmurfMustard]

First-party vs indie-like devs (nothing wrong about that, just we know the outcome already)

You could also say Add-On + Remaster vs 2 new IPs. But keep on doing what you're doing.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

There is something wrong with it in my opinion. Xbox's line up is comparatively fucking shit. Again, this is if the Demon's Souls thing is true. If it is then yeah, Xbox's is comparatively shit, on paper. Medium and Scorn could end up as 90/100 games so you never know.

You'd just need either one of Spiderman or Demon's Souls to 'beat' Series X launch line-up let's be honest (from what we know). It has got to be their worst line-up for a console launch so far.

 

[MasterCornholio]

You could also say Add-On + Remaster vs 2 new IPs. But keep on doing what you're doing.

Remake not remaster. Also Spiderman isn't an add-on it's standalone content.

Demon's Souls Remake for PS5 Announced - IGN

Bluepoint Games, the developers of the Shadow of the Colossus PS4 remake, have revealed their next ambitious game.

www.ign.com

Insomniac confirms Spider-Man: Miles Morales is a standalone PS5 game

It’s not an expansion or a remaster.

www.theverge.com

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

8 first-party exclusives in the first year sounds crazy tbh

Somets gotta give

 

[chonga]

For what it's worth, a distributor in the UK that distributes Sony published titles only added R&C, Demon Souls, GT7 and Spider-Man to their system.

No Horizon, Sackboy, Returnal etc. That could possibly point to those four titles being launch and launch window.

 

[SmurfMustard]

Remake not remaster.

Demon's Souls Remake for PS5 Announced - IGN

Bluepoint Games, the developers of the Shadow of the Colossus PS4 remake, have revealed their next ambitious game.

www.ign.com

Sorry, you're absolutely right.

 

[zaitsu]

You could also say Add-On + Remaster vs 2 new IPs. But keep on doing what you're doing.

The called "add-on" probably has higher budget and longer development time than both new IPs combined
And probably will sell 10x more consoles...

 

[Neo Blaster]

Awww, @Gamernyc78 copped himself a perm.
Pity, nice bloke. Obviously you can't carry the banter on this thread into other threads, I think he's tripped himself up.

Unfortunately he took console wars to a MS thread(FS), that couldn't end well.

 

[SmurfMustard]

The called "add-on" probably has higher budget and longer development time than both new IPs combined
And probably will sell 10x more consoles...

You got anything to back this up or is this just a gut feeling?

 

[SmurfMustard]

Insomniac confirms Spider-Man: Miles Morales is a standalone PS5 game

It’s not an expansion or a remaster.

www.theverge.com

[/QUOTE]

It says right at the start to be similar in scope to Uncharted: The Lost Legacy. And as far as I remember that was a shorter (add on like) version of Uncharted. So I'm guessing this goes for SMMM too. But we'll see.

 

[zaitsu]

You got anything to back this up or is this just a gut feeling?

I mean common, it's spiderman...

 

[zaitsu]

Insomniac confirms Spider-Man: Miles Morales is a standalone PS5 game

It’s not an expansion or a remaster.

www.theverge.com

Lost legacy was better than U4, change my mind.

 

[MasterCornholio]

You got anything to back this up or is this just a gut feeling?

Maybe the size of the studios? Bloober games and Eb Software don't seem to be as large as Insomniac in my opinion.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Insomniac confirms Spider-Man: Miles Morales is a standalone PS5 game

It’s not an expansion or a remaster.

www.theverge.com

It says right at the start to be similar in scope to Uncharted: The Lost Legacy. And as far as I remember that was a shorter (add on like) version of Uncharted. So I'm guessing this goes for SMMM too. But we'll see.

TLL by no means felt like an add-on. It was big enough to be its own game.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Halo didn’t have it and was still 720P in places and no Minecraft wasn’t impressive looking at all either. There are better looking Ray-Tracing mods already out there on PC like this.

That is one polished turd!

 

[zaitsu]

Maybe the size of the studios? Bloober games and Eb Software don't seem to be as large as Insomniac in my opinion.

Blobber is around 60 persons and Ebb software around 30.
Insomniac games as a whole are around 500.

 

[hemo memo]

Reset the clock? What time is it in the US?

 

[SmurfMustard]

I mean common, it's spiderman...

So no.

Lost legacy was better than U4, change my mind.

Yep

All I'm saying, that like Lost Legacy, MM will be a smaller game in scope and length than Spider-Man. So in my opinion the term Add-on isn't to far off.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Blobber is around 60 persons and Ebb software around 30.
Insomniac games as a whole are around 500.

Probably why people shouldn't expect Scorn and The Medium to be big games.

 

[zaitsu]

Probably why people shouldn't expect Scorn and The Medium to be big games.

And you know Blobber were making Observer;redux

 

[zaitsu]

So no.

Yep

All I'm saying, that like Lost Legacy, MM will be a smaller game in scope and length than Spider-Man. So in my opinion the term Add-on isn't to far off.

I mean when something like SMMM could be called "add-on" on PlayStation on the other hand releasing on PC or XSX it would be instant GOTY contender.

 

[CrysisFreak]

Lost legacy was better than U4, change my mind.

Lost Legacy was great but not as good as Thief's End.
Didn't have that big journey biotope diversity pirate shenanigans snarky Nate energy.

 

[zaitsu]

Lost Legacy was great but not as good as Thief's End.
Didn't have that big journey biotope diversity pirate shenanigans snarky Nate energy.

With U4 i was bored in half of the game, and i put it down for a month.
Also i think trains sequence in LL was better than anything shown in U4.

 

[JTCx]

Lost legacy was better than U4, change my mind.

Your mind was already gone to begin with

 

[zaitsu]

Your mind was already gone to begin with

 

[CrysisFreak]

With U4 i was bored in half of the game, and i put it down for a month.
Also i think trains sequence in LL was better than anything shown in U4.

Nah man clocktower was cooler but you do you.

 

[OmegaSpear]

I have platted both Lost Legacy and Uncharted 4. Uncharted 4 has better characters. Lost Legacy characters annoyed the shit out of me.

 

[MasterCornholio]

And you know Blobber were making Observer;redux

Observers a fantastic game. But it's more like a AA experience which is what I think The Medium will be.