Yeah, proprietary storage. They cost the same yet one is 2.4GB/S, the other is 7GB/S. One works with anything so you could repurpose it if you wish to, one just with Xbox. A 2.4GB/S PC NVMe drive costs half that $219 right now. Not to mention the difference in sales and price drop over time.Official price for the 7GB/s 980 pro 1tb is 230$, the 1tb 2400MB/S xbox expansion card official price is 219$.
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And the Samsung 2TB is almost as much as a PS5 Digital. But prices should start coming down in a while if you can wait.
And the Samsung 2TB is almost as much as a PS5 Digital. But prices should start coming down in a while if you can wait.
No offense, but why are some of you guys so obsessed with INSTANTLY installing an SSD into your PS5? Are you really gonna need more than 680GB of storage (or whatever ends up being usable) on day one?
Personally I'm pretty sure I'll be absolutely fine with just the included SSD for 2-3 years or so, and by that time there will be a lot more compatible options on the market, and they'll be a lot cheaper.
They're not designed to be mounted on top of an existing heatsink? *shocked*
Imagine a slot made to support a SSD not supporting the SSD.
No, nvmes that require additional heatsinks to run effectively tend to be sold with them.
I believe from the size of the slot even some well weighted SSD with headsinks will fits on PS5.No, nvmes that require additional heatsinks to run effectively tend to be sold with them.
Yeah the bay does have some depth to it.I believe from the size of the slot even some well weighted SSD with headsinks will fits on PS5.
Imagine that slot open for all SSDs and not only ones made by Sony.
And the ones without them i.e the ones that fit the PS5? Thats my point.
Imagine a slot made to support a SSD not supporting the SSD.
I'm not sure what your point is.
The first round of pcie gen 4 nvmes (none of which are fast enough for this application anyway) all had ridiculous heatsinks because they all used the same Phison controller which ran ridiculously hot under load.
The controllers on this latest batch of 4.0 drives are a big step up over that and don't heat up anywhere near as much.
I was adressing the concern that the slot in the PS5 was too small and about to melt SSDs and not anything you claimed.
To be frank, such a claim is stupid because the controllers in these SSD's are designed to throttle the transfer speeds when heat reaches certain thresholds.
Nothings going to melt and the moment the SSD cools down again it will start operating at normal speeds again.
These are 5w components we are talking about here...
Official price for the 7GB/s 980 pro 1tb is 230$, the 1tb 2400MB/S xbox expansion card official price is 219$.
Propietary storage
I believe everybody hated the Vita proprietary solution.There was a time when Sony used to get dogged for proprietary stuff.
There was a time when Sony used to get dogged for proprietary stuff.
We will need a hyper configurater coolomatic 3000.How will these NVME drives dissipate heat?
We going to need special heat-syncs that press against the shielding on the side of the enclosure?
You seriously think with millions upon millions of dollars spent on R&D at PlayStation they somehow did not think about this!? LOLBut most PC towers have a lot more airflow than that slot on the bottom of the console. I'm going to wait and see if anyone ends up with a melted SSD before spending $200+ for one in my PS5.
Zoomed in on the picture and it's definitely a pin with a screw and says "110" under it!There is another pin in the pictures.
So maybe it really supports 110mm.
30, 60, 42 and 80 mm are 100%.
I don’t see how it’s a shame they went with an option you just plug in the back of the console vs you got 4 or 5 steps(most likely scratch up your system) just for expansion that’s going to cost basically the same as the Series X/S expansion. because you need something similar to the internal SSD. Plus MS has stated you will have more options and form factors for expandable slots.Very deservedly so, the Vita cards were such a scam to prop their propietary memory cards.
Good that Sony moved on, a shame Microsoft is going down this path for next gen.
The two available 7GB/s options doesn’t have heatsink at all.... most new controllers are cool enough to not need one.As long as they meet the specification, which basically zero on the market atm will. They need to be significantly faster than 5.5GB/s to basically brute force the same performance of the on-board ssd. They also have to not have giant heat sinks at least. Until they release the required specs we know nothing other than the length of the ones it supports.
Still much better than the proprietary Xbox solution though. Hopefully MS let anyone make their expandable storage and don’t require big licensing fees etc.
It will be more expensive because it is made in way less units.I don’t see how it’s a shame they went with an option you just plug in the back of the console vs you got 4 or 5 steps(most likely scratch up your system) just for expansion that’s going to cost basically the same as the Series X/S expansion. because you need something similar to the internal SSD. Plus MS has stated you will have more options and form factors for expandable slots.
Official price for the 7GB/s 980 pro 1tb is 230$, the 1tb 2400MB/S xbox expansion card official price is 219$.
Propietary storage
Your really reaching,I don’t see how it’s a shame they went with an option you just plug in the back of the console vs you got 4 or 5 steps(most likely scratch up your system) just for expansion that’s going to cost basically the same as the Series X/S expansion. because you need something similar to the internal SSD. Plus MS has stated you will have more options and form factors for expandable slots.
This Matters. Its no joke, this WILL be a big problem as time goes by and compatible NVME drives for the PS5 comes down and MS SSD remains expensive.Joke post? You can’t possibly be this dense....
I believe it is because some early PCI-E 4.0 SSDs used a Phison controller that was really really hot requiring a heat sink.Why do people think these need heatsinks?
This Matters. Its no joke, this WILL be a big problem as time goes by and compatible NVME drives for the PS5 comes down and MS SSD remains expensive.
By 2023 folks are going to be saying MS SSD is a Rip Off, you can bookmark this Post.
Joke post? You can’t possibly be this dense....
I don’t see how it’s a shame they went with an option you just plug in the back of the console vs you got 4 or 5 steps(most likely scratch up your system) just for expansion that’s going to cost basically the same as the Series X/S expansion. because you need something similar to the internal SSD. Plus MS has stated you will have more options and form factors for expandable slots.
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Looks like I gotta buy a heat sink and a screw
Those are the quoted speeds by their manufacturers d00d. And their official prices as well.
That's how much propietary storage sucks balls.
U ever felt an external ssd drive...I have a samsung t7 external which is just a m2 drive in a case and it’s red hot sometimesWhy do people think these need heatsinks?
That is also what I believe. You have like 600GB useable storage builtin. That should be sufficient for the first year. After the first year, I hope there will be enough certified SSDs available to upgrade the PS5. Another benefit of the Sony solution is, that you can simply reuse the SSD in a traditional PC when you feel the need to upgrade it even further or if you are seling the console. I really don't get how people can defend the memory card solution that MS is offering. Besides the convenience factor, I do not see any advantage over the Sony approach.Long term this will be much better price wise for the consumer. Thumbs up.
It does not look too complicated...I do like that you can access the fan from the topI still can't believe you have to take the thing apart to add more storage.