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Cyberpunk 2077 - Review Thread

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Desaccorde

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Dr. Doak said:
Thank god I'm not interested in RT. What's the performance without RT?
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ForestVSea said:
Sadly, they are the ones with the influence.

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Am i a bad person if i didnt know who the heck these peoples are ?

Aside from the popular name like Hideo Kojima, Phil Spencer, Jim Ryan, Mark Cerny, Miyazaki, Regie Fils, Saturo Iwata etc i really have no idea who are these people

From all those list im only familiar wih Brian Altano
 
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bender

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More interested now than ever before, mainly due to the length. I do think the idea of waiting for a GOTY edition is wise or at the very least waiting a year until the next generation versions are out and the game has several patches behind it. It really sounds like it could have used another delay.
 
Ivory Blood

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Cyberpunk 2077 represents a true leap forward for the medium, with an experience that I'm sure will come with equal parts controversy and admiration. One thing is for certain: nobody will be able to ignore this game. It will be picked apart, scrutinized, and analyzed for years to come. Cyberpunk 2077 is going to hit this industry like an earthquake.

After a week or so with the game and dozens of hours played, my honest-to-goodness recommendation is that you don't read this review. Go in blind. Enjoy this moment, and savor its rarity. Simply stated, as an experience, Cyberpunk 2077 won't be bested for years — it is a masterpiece, wholly without equal.
 
MatrixReloaded101

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Yoboman said:
Unless the reviewer is trans, I could care less if she thinks it "fetishises" trans concepts. I wonder if the trans game devs who actually worked on the game agree.

White women sure love hitching their bandwagon to woke controversy and pretending to be the voice for all oppressed groups
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We have not played the game and she has.. We don't know the extend to which these trans concepts are shown in the game so its hard to even call her out at this point.

I was watching Jeff's from giant bombs twitch earlier were he gave impressions of the game and he even mentioned that they hit you over the head a lot with dildo references and jokes. While I personally don't mind those type of jokes. I can see how it can become annoying when they keep trying to push the same bad joke so who knows far they went with the trans stuff.

All in all we have to get the game in our hands or at least see more gameplay videos of it before we can bash the opinion of someone who actually played it.
 
Kuranghi

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Based on the figures we are seeing for say, a 3080 at native 1440p + Ultra + RTX (~35fps average) - that the Ultra settings are some future facing stuff you shouldn't really have set that high right now. Even with RTX on those figures, for that config, seems too low.
 
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Bartski

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Elog said:
Well - have not seen any but it should perform better on XSX since it is in BC mode.
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well, so far rumor has it they both run at 60fps with the XsX having an extra performance mode missing from the PS5 version, at least until the day one patch. We're 3 days away and I still don't know which console I'm buying the game for
 
BadBurger

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Cherry Sonoshee said:
Which I'm of two minds about. A lot of the "progressive" reviews talk about how the gangs and things like corporate Japanese groups are stuck using ethnicity as identity, which yeah was fine in the 80s.
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I am pretty certain I read (or possibly even saw in an interview) that the creator of CyberPunk envisioned it as a dark vision of the future from an 80's perspective. So that would make sense.
 
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Rikkori

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John Marston

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A small part of me was expecting a disaster but now that it seems it's not the case I'm out until release!

See ya all next week!
 
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Ivory Blood said:
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Cyberpunk 2077 represents a true leap forward for the medium, with an experience that I'm sure will come with equal parts controversy and admiration. One thing is for certain: nobody will be able to ignore this game. It will be picked apart, scrutinized, and analyzed for years to come. Cyberpunk 2077 is going to hit this industry like an earthquake.

After a week or so with the game and dozens of hours played, my honest-to-goodness recommendation is that you don't read this review. Go in blind. Enjoy this moment, and savor its rarity. Simply stated, as an experience, Cyberpunk 2077 won't be bested for years — it is a masterpiece, wholly without equal.
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What a pile of hyperbolic drivel, source?
 
SlimySnake

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Desaccorde said:
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wait what? this is with RT off?

i literally bought the game yesterday thinking my rtx 2080 should be able to do 1440p at 60 fps with DLSS 2.0 unlike my ps5 which had a rough time with the rt in watch dogs, capping at 30 fps during night sections.

But if its this bad with rtx off im in trouble.
 
Trunim

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Game journalists are overall dumb fucks. It's however fun to see the scores and read the reviews they shit out before getting to play it myself. Just make sure you have adblocker on the SJW sites to ensure minimal revenue.
 
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Sentenza

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I just finished listening to Yong yea and Easy Allies reviews of the game.
The game sounds great overall and they have nothing but praises about the setting, the aesthetic, the vibe, etc...
But yeah, there will be a lot of technical problems to deal with for some week.
 
Freeman76

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Cherry Sonoshee said:
I don't really understand the hate for the Gamespot review.

If being woke is simply talking about some cultural issues and that offends you then well you're as snowflake as the people you complain about.

It's a pretty ok review and the reviewer doesn't like how the game fetishes trans concepts. Which is probably true. It does and it didn't sit well with her. Though, I'd argue that an aspect of cyperpunk fiction is the the unhinged use of technology making human life cheap. So of course human augmentation would become super cheap and thoughtless. I mean this is a huge aspect of the culture in Transmetropolitan. People can change themselves so much that it becomes trendy and a fad, but that's not usually a good thing. Thats a dark future.

But it's 2020 and as these things become actually real of course humans are going to have a more nuanced view. It seems like 2077's thoughts about it are stuck in the 80s.

Which I'm of two minds about. A lot of the "progressive" reviews talk about how the gangs and things like corporate Japanese groups are stuck using ethnicity as identity, which yeah was fine in the 80s. But we have different views on that now. Like I wouldn't find a GTA7 having GTA3's sterotypical one note ethnic gang depiction acceptable now. But then again, maybe the game is trying to be a send up to exactly that 80s style. But Cyperpunk is far more nuanced than that. Plenty of works in that genre tell real human stories beyond the on the surface edginess of something like 2077.

I don't know still excited to play the game of course.
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Its a pretend story. Made up. In a pretend world. In a videogame.

Why on earth people get so uppity about this shit is beyond me. Who the fuck cares. Play it or dont play it, nobody cares.
 
GaviotaGrande

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Rikkori said:
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Fuck my tits, I'll play it in 30FPS just to get these visuals with my 3080.
 
Infested Goblin

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After reading almost all reviews it's kinda obvious for me that at least half of the reviewers had day 1 patch and the other half played without it. What a mess. Many reviewers state that game has few bugs but nothing game breaking and others state that they were swimming in bugs. Pretty strange
 
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How long is the honeymoon period going to last for this one? When will we start seeing "Cyberpunk 2077 is a pile of buggy shit and it's not all that great overall" threads.

When will the hivemind decide it's "OK" to shit on this one I wonder?

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After reading almost all reviews it's kinda obvious for me that at least half of the reviewers had day 1 patch and the other half played without it. What a mess. Many reviewers state that game has few bugs but nothing game breaking and others state that they were swimming in bugs. Pretty strange
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There is NO DAY1 PATCH YET, it's literally a DAY 1 PATCH. Many honest reviwers have stated that the thing is a buggy mess even after the day -5 patch that was 40+gbs.

It's not that it's OBVIOUS that they played with a magical patch, it's OBVIOUS that they're dishonest fucks that don't want to ruin their company's ad revenue from CDPR.

The fact that CDPR isn't allowing a reviewers OWN FOOTAGE in the pre-release reviews is a very BAD and TELLING sign of what state this thing is in.
 
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MastaKiiLA

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I'll most likely get the game, but I'm really curious to know how much reviewers should ignore bugs in a game. Just watching some playthroughs, the game seems to have a fair number of bugs. I don't know if these should be ignored when delivering a game review, even if your expectations are that they'll be fixed. It kinda undermines the point of reviews, which is to provide guidance on a gaming purchase. I don't value reviews very highly for this reason. I can't trust people who overlook issues with a product, because of their beliefs. The bugs appear to keep this game from a 90+ score IMO, but I'm not going to complain about the results. Just thought I'd share my opinion.
 
MiguelItUp

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BadBurger said:
I am pretty certain I read (or possibly even saw in an interview) that the creator of CyberPunk envisioned it as a dark vision of the future from an 80's perspective. So that would make sense.
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That's correct. Hell even on the Wiki it reads...

"Cyberpunk was designed by Mike Pondsmith as an attempt to replicate the gritty realism of 1980s cyberpunk science fiction. "

Mike specifically said that what he wanted with 2077 was to take what he created and put it in the form of a video game as accurately as possible, so it makes perfect sense. But these people don't know that, nor will they do the research. Instead they'll kneejerk to anything they think is offensive and make a fuss about it. I mean, there was stuff with the voodoo boys, etc. Over this game's development there have been various nitpicks that people made trying to make it into something it isn't, and isn't trying to do.

Edit: Also wanted to add this link: https://linustechtips.com/topic/107...naccurate-to-the-source-refutes-their-claims/

There are probably better ones, but man, seeing Mike be so blunt with people trying to say the game is racist, etc. was pretty damn tasty, lmao.
 
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Ogbert

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Dr. Doak said:
But that's the last gen version. I was talking about th next gen patch in 2021, sorry :p
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My suspicion is we will get the standard choice.

A 30fps mode with elements of ray tracing and a focus on higher resolutions, or a performance mode with dynamic res, not much in the way of lighting effects, but a stable 60fps.
 
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Cherry Sonoshee said:
I don't really understand the hate for the Gamespot review.

If being woke is simply talking about some cultural issues and that offends you then well you're as snowflake as the people you complain about.
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Not at all.

If, like I do, you would view Representation as a fundamentally flawed fallacious concept, then you would regard any review that bases their low score on alleged shortcomings in that department as a irredeemable review on its own right. This isn't to say no good reasons exist to give CYberpunk 2077 a modest score. But those aren't the reasons Gamespot and Polygon are citing. Those aren't the reasons because Representation is a fundamental misjudgement of the role and rewards of good fiction.

It's a pretty ok review and the reviewer doesn't like how the game fetishes trans concepts.
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Nothing shown so far even suggests the game fetichizes.

Which is probably true.
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Great. Then you'll be able to exemplify and paraphrase. Don't just stick to "fetichizing". Explain what the game is trying to do and provide evidence in support of your claim.

It does and it didn't sit well with her. Though, I'd argue that an aspect of cyperpunk fiction is the the unhinged use of technology making human life cheap. So of course human augmentation would become super cheap
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Implants are not "super cheap", as per the lore.

and thoughtless. I mean this is a huge aspect of the culture in Transmetropolitan. People can change themselves so much that it becomes trendy and a fad, but that's not usually a good thing. Thats a dark future.
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So, according to you, transitioning is Kosher, but body augments are a no-no. Why the stark contrast in these two aspects of Transhumanism?

But it's 2020 and as these things become actually real of course humans are going to have a more nuanced view. It seems like 2077's thoughts about it are stuck in the 80s.
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Would you be familiar with the lore?

Which I'm of two minds about. A lot of the "progressive" reviews talk about how the gangs and things like corporate Japanese groups are stuck using ethnicity as identity, which yeah was fine in the 80s.
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Bam. Here we go. This is what you're doing:

You are looking at a piece of a) fiction , set in b ) a dystopian c) parallel timeline which d ) significantly diverges from our on circa late 1980s, you're looking at it though the prism of contemporary reality.

I'm sorry. That's not intellectually serious. You judge fiction by its internal consistency not by its adherence to reality.

But we have different views on that now. Like I wouldn't find a GTA7 having GTA3's sterotypical one note ethnic gang depiction acceptable now.
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That's on you. No one should be burdened by your pet peeves, since you cannot explain yourself in a convincing way though rational arguments.

But then again, maybe the game is trying to be a send up to exactly that 80s style.
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As a matter of fact, Mike Pondsmith has irregularly updated and revised the lore after the original release. The latest iteration that bridges past events and CP2077 lore has just been released. As in 2020, not the 1980s.

But Cyperpunk is far more nuanced than that. Plenty of works in that genre tell real human stories beyond the on the surface edginess of something like 2077.
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The game is not based on Cyberpunk, the genre. It is based off on Mike Pondsmith's specific take on the genre, which CDPR are then reinterpreting at their own discretion.
 
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