alabtrosMyster
Banned
The PS4 is still a beast, that's the reason.
People put a lot of efforts to make games, don't criticize their work.
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People put a lot of efforts to make games, don't criticize their work.
EDMIX
Member
I disagree actually. Looking at the game on PS4 Pro after the 1.04 patch, I played 10 hours with no patch, 10 hours with the day 1 and about 5 hours or so with the 1.04 patch (started new games with all of them btw)
The game looks and runs more solid, but that goes to show what I've been saying....this is not a last gen issue, why the fuck is AC Valhalla running on last gen just fine and not doing shit like sub 720p or frame dips to 15? If Last gen was sooooooo bad and no one could make games, how on earth can you explain all the games this fall that released fine on last gen systems? You telling me Ghost Of Tsushima is dropping frames below 20 and low res and crashing every 10 min cause PS4 is too weak or? We can make that argument when THE MAJORITY of games do this and we can say "shit, time to move on, PS4 and XONE just can't play anything" but that isn't the case here.
THIS GAME is the issue. Even if I agree that this game should have skipped last gen, its not because last gen is too weak, its because this team simply can't do what Rockstar or Bethesda does and they need the handicap. They can't optimize for shit. So to an extent I do agree THEY would need to skip last gen as they simply can't put out games compared to the rest of the developers that had next to no issue putting games out on many platforms this fall.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Whoever designed the controller warned you, they wrote "no future" on the thing! I mean, if you buy that and you did not see the sign... it's kind of your fault.Imagine being baited into this:
Poor motherfuckers ;(
Javthusiast
Banned
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
GOTY
Barakov
Member
Hawking Radiation
Member
Game of the year
Armorian
Banned
Hawking Radiation
Member
01011001
Banned
Series S and X (in resolution mode) run the same settings simply at different resolutions. they both have higher density than the PlayStation variants.
if the S seems to have more in specific scenes that's down to the dynamic nature of the world
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kretos
Banned
and what makes you think they're not in on it
Kataploom
Gold Member
I get it but, what if they delayed the game? Would they be facing a better luck?
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Yeah I don't recall any ps4pro/xboxonex only game.
Nintendo did have exclusives for their mid gen refreshes tho.
Silent Viper
Banned
My friend applied for refund already and he bought it for PS5. He hates FOV in the game and graphics and frame rate problems there as well.
Lszy job by CDPR.
Xbox versions also all over the place. You can apply refund quite easily on Xbox as well
Lszy job by CDPR.
Xbox versions also all over the place. You can apply refund quite easily on Xbox as well
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Cob32
Member
Has Sony been giving them?
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I think it gets down to 10-12 at some point.
Fun fact: that's lower than the standard screening framerate of George Melies movies from literal 1900.
yowza
Armorian
Banned
I doubt this is the case on base consoles.
Cato
Banned
Off course they had to approve the game. This game was as hyped as NoMansSky before release.
What do you think would happen if MS just went out and said, we refused to release this game on XboxOne because of substandard quality/performance?
People would have gone completely mental and there would be death threats all over the place.
So, they made the only choice they had: let it release even if completely unplayable and just see what happens.
Hugare
Member
They will improve it to some extend but base consoles are underperforming in many games now so it's not suprsing that 7 years after release you have games that perform like shit, plus there are much better versions available NOW:
GTA 5 framerate was only fixed 1 YEAR AFTER release (and 2 years for PC release)
And the best one:
This level of performance is nothing new on consoles...
Show me another game that runs at 720p on the PS4 besides Cyberpunk
Even now at the end of the lifecycle, you dont see games reaching this low in terms of resolution or performance
Valhalla and WD Legion both run better and look sharper. Much sharper.
I swear to God that the GTA video is less blurry than Cyberpunk on my 4k tv
Despite the low resolution, Cyberpunk also uses LOTS of volumetric lighting and fog, that in combination with the TAA, results in one of the worst IQ thst I've seen in a console game. Ever. And I have a Switch connect to my tv, Ive seen some shit.
That's why that even in the PS4 pro and One X, despite the higher resolution, image quality still looks very soft.
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
This one is clear I think.
The shadows on the car, the shadows in the background on the red cart thing... also the image seems to be a bit sharper on Xbox.
The whole point of consoles is so ppl don't have to go through upgrading and all. If the game was going to be like this then they shoudve aimed next gen only. But yes there's zero reason to preorder a game now days looking it how the state some games come out.
You what? Don't have to upgrade? How long have you been burying your head in the sand? The whole reason the redesigns/pro consoles exist is to upgrade, the Xbox one is a 7 year old dead console, deal with it.
BigLee74
Member
You won't play it on the Series X, but would on the PS5??
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Yselacrey00
Banned
There should be minimum requirements for your game to be certified. Sony and Microsoft should make mandotory for games to be at least 30 fps and 1080p. If your game goes under then it shouldn't get certified until you fix it. But seeing that both companies practically were in this together with CDPR I know I'm asking for too much
John Day
Member
There might be, but ya know, hot christmas title ($$$$)
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Well, BotW was developed for the Wii U as well, and ran almost as fine as the version on the Switch.
I guess this is just a weird strategy that people pisses off in a way.
They should have made the PS4 the base version, and give the newer consoles more frames and rez.
Jaxcellent
Member
I'm playing the game on the 4pro: i expected a 1080p game running 30, I got 12XX something at around 30 most of the time.
I had a few crashes, a few bugs, no big deal for me. Not more or less than any other big console RPG I played before. I'm enjoying this game alot! I think it's strange how people forget how previous crossgen went, its obvious games need to be graded down from the pc version, it's obvious you won't get perfect locked 30 fps... Its obvious the newest pc graphic card look better than 7 year old console hardware..
the bugs and crashes are a pain in the ass, but I encountered only a few and have been playing around 15 hours or so, frame rates on the pro are 30 - 25 in heavy situations. I'm sure CDPR will patch those bugs and the base systems so they will play smoother, just don't expect miracles from these old machines.
Just like we diden't expect miracles from skyrim on the PS3 or GTA5 on the PS3.
I had a few crashes, a few bugs, no big deal for me. Not more or less than any other big console RPG I played before. I'm enjoying this game alot! I think it's strange how people forget how previous crossgen went, its obvious games need to be graded down from the pc version, it's obvious you won't get perfect locked 30 fps... Its obvious the newest pc graphic card look better than 7 year old console hardware..
the bugs and crashes are a pain in the ass, but I encountered only a few and have been playing around 15 hours or so, frame rates on the pro are 30 - 25 in heavy situations. I'm sure CDPR will patch those bugs and the base systems so they will play smoother, just don't expect miracles from these old machines.
Just like we diden't expect miracles from skyrim on the PS3 or GTA5 on the PS3.
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Complistic
Member
They needed to cancel those versions. Thinking they wasted a massive amount of resources on them too. Management fucked up.
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MadchesterManc
Member
As shitty as CDPR are for releasing it in this state, you have only yourself to blame if you've been burnt on base console. Before release only having the PC version, One X via Series X BC and PS4 Pro footage shown should have been enough of a red flag. It doesn't take quitting smoking levels of willpower to not pre-order a game or waiting a few days post release before picking it up to see how things turn out.
Radical_3d
Member
10/10. One point for every frame.
BOTW is open expanses of nothingness
Stiflers Mom
Banned
what does that have to do with my answer?
megreotsugua
Banned
Imagine Xbox Series S 4-5 years from now.
MS should cancel that scam right now.
MS should cancel that scam right now.
Radical_3d
Member
I just checked John’s twitter and WOW. 540p in a 800€ card gives you this whooping performance. So glad I let the master race behind: so many quality pixels would melt my eyeballs.
pretty easy to make an empty world run smoothly
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Patches....Patches everywhere 
At least today we can have patches if they game runs bad. In the past - you bought the disc and you were alone with your sorrow
At least today we can have patches if they game runs bad. In the past - you bought the disc and you were alone with your sorrow
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-Arcadia-
Banned
It’s hard to believe that a 15 FPS game got shipped. So many points of failure, from the developer, to the publisher, to basic cert standards.
Completely unacceptable. Imagine a casual gamer getting this as a Christmas gift, and if they can even play it without crashing, having... this as performance.
Completely unacceptable. Imagine a casual gamer getting this as a Christmas gift, and if they can even play it without crashing, having... this as performance.
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jezhumphrey75
Banned
has the same processor as the x? it should be doing 60 fps aswell, just less graphical settings
SkylineRKR
Member
Xbox One version shouldn't be sold. 15 fps come on. This is worse than PS360 jank.
DavidGzz
Member
It's sold out, they just weren't able to produce as many in the States, it sold more worldwide than Xbox One did.
Gravemind
Member
Shhhhh, dont use common sense. Just let let keep making clowns of themselves.