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TacosNSalsa
Member
Makes me wonder..what did it perform like before the delay
Cherrypepsi
Member
I have a theory that they sacrificed the ONE / ONE X performance for Series S/X
They are running their respective predecessor in BC, and if they had toned down the effects of the base Xbox one to the point where the fps was stable, the Series S would look like complete garbage
I mean 10-15 fps... that's just not playable. How do you play the gunfights? how do you turn the car at fast speeds?
Across the board all playstation systems run more stable
Just a thought
They are running their respective predecessor in BC, and if they had toned down the effects of the base Xbox one to the point where the fps was stable, the Series S would look like complete garbage
I mean 10-15 fps... that's just not playable. How do you play the gunfights? how do you turn the car at fast speeds?
Across the board all playstation systems run more stable
Just a thought
Portugeezer
Member
If you're below the recommended PC specs, that's on you.
With cyberpunk, CD Projekt released a game on XB1. This means that they came to the conclusion that 15fps was acceptable.
I agree, people should have waited to see footage. Not much sympathy from me to those who got baited (although hiding footage from reviews was a big warning sign).
assurdum
Banned
Not this shit again.
No one asked for high quality fidelity graphic on console.
But for the fuck sake you can't pretend people accept to play this shit which drops at 10 FPS because da fak yu wan to dem for the older machine.
It's really disingenuous and just excuse the company to release a game in such conditions. That's unbelievable someone continue to substain such outrageous practice. Again it's the company fault to release a game in such state, a gamers shouldn't even care about the tech reasons behind. You can't offer it with proper performance? Next generation exclusive and end of the problem. Or why not release just the pc version and the next gen console version when it's ready? They want easy money and it turn around in a shitstorm. Hope the console doesn't sell a shit, because they don't deserve a single penny for it. But of course will see if things will improve with the time. I give them the benefit of the doubt. But for now the game is in a beta state and it doesn't deserves to be bought at full price.
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Insane Metal
Gold Member
That's what I call good optimization!
BONUS, XBox One X optimization in action:
BONUS, XBox One X optimization in action:
or they just chose to prioritize their limited time configuring the PS4 versions since the market share and user base and potential sales revenue is a shitload higher there?
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v_iHuGi
Banned
10 in some scenes.
Cherrypepsi
Member
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I mean PS4 is easier to code for and since they are late, it's probably easy to port code from PC there...well that's not accurate, because PC and Xbox version both using DirectX, so my thought is that they ported the PC code and just lower the details and call it a day. The patch which PS4 players received is not out on Xbox, so when they mentioned that they are improving performance and tweaking some effect, maybe now is time to optimize, it's pretty clear that this game was pushed out by management and that it's hardly ready (on consoles)....
Vae_Victis
Banned
I think it gets down to 10-12 at some point.
Fun fact: that's lower than the standard screening framerate of George Melies movies from literal 1900.
Fox Mulder
Member
Lol, Sony and MS just punted this shit through certification to beat the holidays.
Millions of people preordered it without seeing a single image of it on the base ps4/xb1. it received 100% scores from shill media. CDPR thought this quality was acceptable and the console manufacturers agreed.
Millions of people preordered it without seeing a single image of it on the base ps4/xb1. it received 100% scores from shill media. CDPR thought this quality was acceptable and the console manufacturers agreed.
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HeadsUp7Up
Member
v_iHuGi
Banned
you have to be trolling
Man how many millions dollars through the waste on this bundle? Talk about bad managment.
Fredrik
Member
Yeah it’s hilariously low. I actually stopped playing everyone’s best game of all time OoT because of the 17fps, that was too low even back then. I would ask for a refund if I had bought Cyberpunk on Xbox One. On a lowend PC you can at least scale things down to increase the fps, on a lowend console you’re stuck with whatever the dev thinks is good enough, and this isn’t good enough.I think it gets down to 10-12 at some point.
Fun fact: that's lower than the standard screening framerate of George Melies movies from literal 1900.
They should’ve delayed the console versions and just released it on PC at this point (and maybe Stadia, seems okay there).
SilentUser
Member
This is precisely what I think. It is not the costumers fault here, only the publisher (for actually releasing it) and MS/Sony (for allowing the release) are to be blamed. When you buy a console and a game, you expect it to run fine, console are nothing like PC. A slide show isn't fine for any console.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
CDPR fucked up, X1 settings are higher than PS4 settings for some reason.
splattered
Member
I think this is a blessing in disguise... the worse games run on older systems the more it will encourage people to upgrade to next gen (when stock normalizes) and the sooner MS and Sony can drop previous gen support.
Jibran#one
Member
Literally unacceptable absolutely no reason ps4 and xbox should be performing like this, should've delayed the base console versions
Captain Toad
Banned
It's shocking CDPR of all companies would pull this stuff. This is Bethesda on PS3 levels of bad
LordCBH
Member
Cert is basically “does this game break or brick the console?”
RaySoft
Member
How on earth do base Xbox One only manage half of base PS4's fps with same res.?
I'm pretty sure GDK are used on all Xbox hardware, so this proves how far-far behind MS are with it's tools compared to Sony.
But man, this is beyond bad, I knew they were behind, but this is a different league.
Edit: Base Xbox with it's 4MB embedded framebuffer is a rather ecsotic solution compared to the rest of Xbox hardware, we don't know how well the GDK handles that. (if MS have even specialized for it)
I'm pretty sure GDK are used on all Xbox hardware, so this proves how far-far behind MS are with it's tools compared to Sony.
But man, this is beyond bad, I knew they were behind, but this is a different league.
Edit: Base Xbox with it's 4MB embedded framebuffer is a rather ecsotic solution compared to the rest of Xbox hardware, we don't know how well the GDK handles that. (if MS have even specialized for it)
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michaelius
Banned
Future of Series S machines 7 years from now 
Shadow of the Colossus ran 15-20fps on ps2, didn't stop people milking themselves over it.
ruvikx
Banned
The ps4 version scored a 07/20 from jeuxvideo.com & from all videos available is complete fucking dogshit to play, so it's like comparing two turd sandwiches. Anyone who thinks the ps4 version seems fine needs glasses (or needs to pull the fanboy dildo from their buttocks).
How about no?
The absolutely only part I'm willing to place blame on the consumer for is paying 60 or 70 euros on a new release on base ps4, i.e. at a time when a ps5 (when available) costs either 400 or 500 euros. That's a terrible misuse of their money, even if the game played well (i.e. why not wait until it drops in price & put their money towards a ps5 instead?).
But CD Projekt Red just released a "game" on the ps4 which looks & runs way, way worse than the majority of titles on the platform (including their own Witcher 3!). GTA 5 shits all over Cyberpunk 2077 on the ps4, Red Dead 2 looks like a different generation on ps4 compared to Cyberpunk 2077 on ps4. Horizon Zero Dawn massacres Cyberpunk etc.
Those titles on the ps4 offer visuals & performance (in an open world) which far surpass Cyberpunk. No, this is a failure of the developer & publisher, not the platform. It's an insult to release a game like that & outlets promoting its Metacritic score of 90 without specifying that only applies to high-end PC's are fucking disgraceful. From my chair here Cyberpunk is a total flop & borderline botched game which exists only on expensive hardware.
jhjfss
Member
I do wonder if the unified GDK is significantly behind sony's?
We assumed that the ps5 was running better than series X because of some design choices Cerny made( perhaps unified L3 etc), but the base xbox one is at 15 fps and ps4 base is close to 30 fps. We know ps4 is certainly not 2x as powerful as XB1. Same issues with one X compared to the pro model. One X is significantly more powerful and also has a faster cpu yet ps4 pro maintains 30 fps in the video and one x constantly drops to 20 fps.
The one x is running at only slightly higher resolution than the pro yet the performance is significantly worse. Why is that? Something to think about?
We assumed that the ps5 was running better than series X because of some design choices Cerny made( perhaps unified L3 etc), but the base xbox one is at 15 fps and ps4 base is close to 30 fps. We know ps4 is certainly not 2x as powerful as XB1. Same issues with one X compared to the pro model. One X is significantly more powerful and also has a faster cpu yet ps4 pro maintains 30 fps in the video and one x constantly drops to 20 fps.
The one x is running at only slightly higher resolution than the pro yet the performance is significantly worse. Why is that? Something to think about?
Riven326
Banned
Why didn't they just release a proper next-gen edition of the game? Why are they making people wait for a patch?
Mobilemofo
Member
3 - 6 FPS? You lucky lucky git. Your just showing off now...
Riky
$MSFT
I think this guy has used pre patched versions, I haven't tried the X1S version yet but I will later but I've played quite a bit of X1X and it's nothing like he says and this is confirmed by other sources, it's mostly 30fps with some driving set pieces going to 25fps but no lower than that. Can be seen here,
Romulus
Member
Is this the console warrior response to this
Cyberpunk 2077 currently looks really bad on PS5 (not a shitpost).
* Just started the game - the resolution is so low that you hardly can see any details on face in character creation. It looks like something reconstructed to 1080p (confirmed by DF that the temporal AA is messed up creating really strong ghosting effects, look edit 2). PS5 runs limited to PS4...www.neogaf.com
It looks garbage on base last gen from all gathered examples. Even PS5 and XSX have their issues.
This is a complete different level than that other thread. This shows actual numbers of all the current gen consoles and its evident that they're all bad, but Xbox One sits alone in the corner when it comes to absolute worst framerate. It's not even close to the base ps4 version, which is bad.
Ps5 and XSX run well but have no patches yet, its basically a 60fps version of Pro or X1X, which is a huge difference. 20-30fps vs 57-60fps is night and day.
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BlackM1st
Banned
Ah, I play their games since Witcher 1. So, uh... it kinda expected xD I never expected it to be as polished as DooM or something like that. People love to shit on Bethesda's work, while for some reason everyone ignore CDPR fuck ups.
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Dave_at_Home
Member
Seems like Series S is currently the sweet spot in some ways. It's clearly the best of the console versions that targets 1080p so there's probably more headroom for that density at 30 frames. There's no hope for PS4 and Xbox One, or for that matter One X. They will be quietly left behind. PC/PS5/Series X will get tons of patches to meet the vision the developers originally had for this game. PS4 and Xbox One owners should be given a refund if wanted.
BlackM1st
Banned
Looks like their management decided that if people eat others shit, they will also eat theirs. It's unfortunate, really.
CDPR has/had a lot of die hard fans because of their pro-consumer stance and seeing a lot of dissatisfaction I can see this debacle leaving a lot of deep scars on fanbase.
BlackM1st
Banned
Captain Toad
Banned
Imagine being baited into this:
Poor motherfuckers ;(
The console looks cool, at least. Too bad, it's a constant reminder how the game it is designed for runs like hot garbage on it.
v_iHuGi
Banned
it´s a shitshow in any console.
BouncyFrag
Member
I’m holding out for the Switch port.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Avoid this game for several months until bugs are fixed.
Wouldnt ever touch it on PS4/XB1 or One X/Series S/Pro personally.
Wouldnt ever touch it on PS4/XB1 or One X/Series S/Pro personally.
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cireza
Member
Not much better on One X than Xbox One ? This is a blatant troll.
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Bonfires Down
Member
CD Projekt seriously fucked up somewhere. There’s no other game that runs at literally half the frame rate on XB1 as on PS4. When X1X runs slower than base PS4 it’s a developer problem, not a hardware problem.