GHG
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Lol at spacewar being on that list. All those pirates have no shame.
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Steam sets new Record of 26,364,544 concurrent players
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Lol at spacewar being on that list. All those pirates have no shame.
CitizenZ
Banned
Battle Royal
Indie games
Free to play
Survival
Rouge like
Card based startegy
etc.
etc.
etc.
All started in one place or rose in popularity in one place.
Should i list the dozens of games everyone has tried to copy?
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
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You think Indie games started with Steam? Bwawahaha. Commodore 64 says hello. PC MUDs say hello.
Free to play? How about shareware from Id for Wolfenstein or Commander Keen being the precursor etc?
Survival? How about Zombie Zombie on the Spectrum or Atari 2600 games of that ilk decades ago.
Battle Royale? How about games like Bomberman, literally one of the foundations of battle royale. What of games like Minecraft with user generated Battle Royale mods after the Hunger Games movies, well before PUBG.
None of those are Steam, Steam is a great service with nice packaging and a decent marketplace with iterative tools but it's hardly Atlas holding up the gaming world all by itself.
It's designers and developers with tools and open platforms that enable gaming creativity, not marketplaces.
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CitizenZ
Banned
Im not going off from the start of gaming, im talking in the past 10-15 years. Also forgot some others that everyone copies:
Early Access or as MS likes to call them, it's on Gamepass. ; ) thats a freebie
Wishlist
Shared screenshots
friend lists
And it goes on and on and on and on
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
How convenient and what utter bullshit. Fine I'll take that BS and still prove your idiotic statement wrong.
- Switch handheld
- Star Citizen
- Epic Games Store
- Gamepass
- xCloud
- Crossplay
- Fortnite
- Xbox Adaptive Controller
- Early access - did you just ignore what I posted about Shareware from Id that started all that early access, free to play and more. How about the old school magazines and give aways?
- Wishlist - Preorders were a thing back in the NES and SNES days, do you not remember.
- Shared screenshots were available manually all the way back in DOOM days. If you're talking about in game then games like Halo 3 from Xbox and Gran Turismo from Playstation say hello, before Steam introduced such features within in game UI for example.
- Friends lists harken back to the days of Battle.net from Blizzard years and years before Steam was even released.
Mate you don't need to die on that faux hill you've erected. You're wrong and move on. Steam is a great marketplace but it's not the foundation of innovation for all of gaming. You've a bit to learn about your video game innovation history and sources.
How about even this very thread title of 26Mil concurrent users. Fortnite rocked 15Mil concurrent during The Devourer of Worlds event. Fortnite has a 350+Mil registered userbase. One game arguably rivals all of Steam.
I'll not bother to reply any further as I've more than factually proved my point in a number of ways and I don't want to shit up the thread anymore.
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LazyParrot
Member
Battle Royale blew up after PUBG launched on Steam, so I supposed that one is true enough.
Indie games... Eh. They made it big on Steam around the same time they also got big on consoles.
The Free to Play model as it exists today was largely popularized by League of Legends in 2009. Steam didn't get its first major F2P game until Dota 2 launched four years later. League was already a bigger game than Dota would ever be at that point.
Roguelikes are ancient of course, but the surge in popularity during the last decade was largely driven by games like Binding of Isaac and Rogue Legacy. Both of those games launched on Steam, so I'll give you that one.
As for Card based strategy games... can you name any popular ones on Steam that predate Hearthstone?
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CitizenZ
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Do you know how many indie games sold millions before hitting consoles? Here is just one you may have heard of, Stardew Valley, made by one person.
Hearthstone had its place but does anyone talk about or copy it anymore or is that line now drawn to Slay the Spire, that started where again?
Did I mention automation games? You cant pick up a game now without some sort of influence from Factorio, another game made by one person.
I also forgot about building and simulation games like thief and house flipper, not my sort of thing but are very, very popular.
Im just simply making an observation. Again never said it started on Steam, but it all has started in one place, PC.
CitizenZ
Banned
The whole point was about GAME trends you all are bringing up services and a controller? Do you understand the words I am typing? GAME trends, Battle royal(PUBG), DAYZ(mod), Path of Exile(FTP), etc. etc etc.
LazyParrot
Member
That doesn't prove your original claim that Steam is where these games first became popular, especially considering Stardew Valley came out long after indies became popular. I could just as easily point out that Castle Crashers sold million on consoles before coming to PC.
Lots of people still talk about it, and lots of people still play and watch it. More than Slay the Spire, anyway. But again, this is about where these games got started, not how they're doing now. Ignoring the biggest game in the genre and arbitrarily shifting the definition for what counts as the originator so far forward that it includes a game released on Steam is some serious goalpost moving.
You did not. Factorio was made by more than one person, by the way.
Just how popular are these games? I have never heard anyone talk about them. But that's besides the point, because you literally said that ALL gaming trends started on Steam.
Oh yes you did.
I mean, yes. I’m still addicted to it. 3 years now...
CitizenZ
Banned
That doesn't prove your original claim that Steam is where these games first became popular, especially considering Stardew Valley came out long after indies became popular. I could just as easily point out that Castle Crashers sold million on consoles before coming to PC.
Lots of people still talk about it, and lots of people still play and watch it. More than Slay the Spire, anyway. But again, this is about where these games got started, not how they're doing now. Ignoring the biggest game in the genre and arbitrarily shifting the definition for what counts as the originator so far forward that it includes a game released on Steam is some serious goalpost moving.
You did not. Factorio was made by more than one person, by the way.
Just how popular are these games? I have never heard anyone talk about them. But that's besides the point, because you literally said that ALL gaming trends started on Steam.
Oh yes you did.
Factorio was in EA for years and was initially started by one man. He later added a few other devs. but the initla concept and design by one person.
My whole point, again, is if you want to know where the industry and GAMES are trending its at one place. PC or Steam, whichever you prefer.
I also neglected to mention Hardcore FPS which is a helluva lot popular than anything from EA or Activision and with how much marketing and hype? NONE.
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LazyParrot
Member
You can't just say a game was made by one person just because they came up with the initial concept, especially if you're comparing it to a game like Stardew Valley where a single person really did everything.
Then why didn't you just write that? Surely you realize that there is a pretty huge difference between that and claiming that all game trends start on Steam?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Civ 6 puttin' in work. Kudos to the devs.
Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
Don't those 26,364,544 people know that they can get a console for $500USD (may include additional service charges)?
I, for one, am outraged by these numbers.
I, for one, am outraged by these numbers.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Cant blame em when those consoles are hard to find
Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
Yes, hopefully that's all it is.
Tschumi
Member
I don't mean to war about this but I'd take a mouse ahead of a joystick any day. And this coming from a guy who's been playing PlayStation for the last few months because the games are so good... It still feels inferior in the control department, excepting for games like sports sims, team ico, such things, and maybe Soulsborne and it's clones
Optimus Lime
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I agree with you. I'm taking the piss, like the infantile little creep that I am. Of course the PC is superior.
Oddvintagechap
Member
PlayStation has to be way higher than that.
Sakura
Member
It's really fun to get drunk with friends and play competitive all night.
I don't like pirates
Banned
Wow, so many master race players all concentrated in a place and at one time. The perfect time to throw an atomic bomb just right there.
All players slayed. Time to be happy without the master race.
All players slayed. Time to be happy without the master race.
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Gamezone
Gold Member
Some people actually thought Candy Crush would kill PC?
Airbus Jr
Banned
You have to remember this number are just from Steam
Not every PC gamer are Steam client
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I don't like pirates
Banned
If you kill all the Steam players is enough.
You kill the rabid dog and it ends the sickness.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Is that really necesarry for you talk like that?
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I don't like pirates
Banned
Am i taking bad? Dude, sorry english is not my native language. I just do as good as i can.
Probably i'm more of an asshole in english that i'm being in spanish ¿?
I don't know. What did i do wrong? I don't cursed and didn't insult anyone. And as far as i know i didn't treat you any of you assholes with disrepect. So i don't know what the fuck did i do?
I was too direct? too sincere? I just don't know.
Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
Oh boy.
jezhumphrey75
Banned
shoot eachover like any other shooter?
Airbus Jr
Banned
Youre just advocating killing PC player on Steam
Calling them rabid dog and end their sickness by exterminating them
Not sure if people there are going to be happy with what you said
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It can run on a potato and it's tuned to high hell.
Diddy X
Member
Not a fan of either but EGS is growing so fast, way faster than Steam its first years.
LazyParrot
Member
Well, duh. EGS entered a huge established market at a time where everybody was already used to buying games digitally. Not only was the PC gaming market smaller in general back when Steam launched, but players were also still used to buying physical PC games and viewed an all-digital storefront with suspicion. The was no existing market for Valve to take advantage of. They had to create it themselves.
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Lanrutcon
Member
...by spending a crapton of money buying exclusivity, which Steam didn't do.
Denton
Member
Unlikely
PlayStation Network MAU 2023 | Statista
While it is tricky to pinpoint exactly how many PlayStation users exist, Sony officially states that the number of active PSN users is more than 120 million.
www.statista.com
Steam has 120 million monthly active users, playstation has estimated 114.
26 million concurrent is very high, considering different timezones. I doubt more people are logged into PSN than there are into Steam even if the MAU number was equal.
Sentenza
Member
What? No, it's not. It was basically at zero growth in 2020.
Which is twice as fun when you consider that they are starting so small so ANY growth should stand out.
Well, the user base allegedly grew (even if you can't help but wonder how many of these new users are actually bots claiming hundreds of free games per person) but the spending was basically flat (a 5% increase) from 2019 and their costs raised exponentially way coupon gifted and free games given away).
Their numbers for the past revealed with the recent infographic years have been abysmal.
Meanwhile Steam had a 20% growth across the board despise being already the juggernaut among digital stores.
Steamworks Development - Steam - 2020 Year in Review - Steam News
A review of the more noteworthy updates, features, and events that happened last year on Steam.
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ClosBSAS
Member
ya well, when steam cam eout Digital distribution was new...its not now...so really no excuse not to grow fast. just like origin or uplay. hell, even egs, DD is not new, no reason why their store should lack basic ass features...same goes with origin and uplay.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
yikes
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Haha np man.
LOL I quoted the wrong person. That list is what I was trying to quote.
But you shouldn't yikes at that list imo. If you look at most played console games I'm sure most will be Cods, Fifas and GTA Online. The most popular things aren't usually the best.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
agreed