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[DeepEnigma]

I must be too old for this shit. I came from A time before shitty gif replies on internet forums.

What Internet was this, the Roman empire World Wide Web?

If you’re that old, you also came from a time where you weren’t upcharged separately for codec labels chiseled on the box.

 

[phil_t98]

Virtual surround sound using software, honestly it's better than the old way of stuffing multiple speakers in the headphone

So how does atoms work then?

 

[Jaysen]

I kinda get it.

It doesn't have to be as drastic as horse armor but if this paves the way for other products to cut costs and have the customer shoulder the costs then it opens up a can of worms that will ramify in the future.

You most definitely do not get it.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

What Internet was this, the Roman empire World Wide Web?

If you’re that old, you also came from a time where you weren’t upcharged separately for codec labels chiseled on the box.

Gifs were not popular on 14.4 modems.

It comes with a trail. Like my car came with a satellite radio trial. Don't worry it came with a fully functioning FM radio as well. Hmmmm what's this scenario remind you of?

 

[killatopak]

Atmos has been paid on Xbox for like 4 years now. This isn't new. It's not paving the way for anything.

not as drastic

other products

sometimes people need to read.

 

[Putonahappyface]

Shitty gif reply means I'm right. Tempest sounds like trash on your pulses as well.

Well I can't speak for the Pulse wireless 3D headset, but the Tempest engine sounds pretty bloody good on Steel Series Arctis Pro plus Gamedac headphones.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Well I can't speak for the Pulse wireless 3D headset, but the Tempest engine sounds pretty bloody good on Steel Series Arctis Pro plus Gamedac headphones.

My head's too big. I reformed the metal band and it was better but still uncomfortable. Sq was alright. Much prefer my hd800s, 1770s, ier-m9's or even my amiron wireless(the bt has too much lag for gaming though)

 

[DeepEnigma]

Gifs were not popular on 14.4 modems.

It comes with a trail. Like my car came with a satellite radio trial. Don't worry it came with a fully functioning FM radio as well. Hmmmm what's this scenario remind you of?

No, but ytmnd was, and the OG. Gifs are also plenty old to adapt since the dawn of the internet user. Been using the internet since TCPIP Baud connects to newsgroups and adapted fine. Us old goats have a handle of the meme and internet culture the cell phone normies thought they pioneered.

Satellite radio, lol what? Did you just compare an audio codec to an actual content delivery service?

Ok original internet and tech cavalier.

 

[Blond]

They’re going to make you pay for that Bethesda deal somehow lol

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

not as drastic

other products

sometimes people need to read.

Blah blah blah
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[DeepEnigma]

Blah blah blah
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Now see, that’s a poor man’s gif. Good job, pops!

Now let’s roll away on our Hoverounds and go pick up dames in the bingo hall together!

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

No, but ytmnd was, and the OG. Gifs are also plenty old to adapt since the dawn of the internet user. Been using the internet since TCPIP Baud connects to newsgroups and adapted fine. Us old goats have a handle of the meme and internet culture the cell phone normies thought they pioneered.

Satellite radio, lol what? Did you just compare an audio codec to an actual content delivery service?

Ok original internet and tech cavalier.

If you are going to continue to pretend to be smart you should at least know Atmos is not a codec.

 

[DeepEnigma]

If you are going to continue to pretend to be smart you should at least know Atmos is not a codec.

It’s not a Howard Stern show either. It’s a spatial audio format. Codec evolved, but still an api powered audio format none the less.

 

[iHaunter]

Not sure if this really needs to be said, but if you're expecting crazy HiFi from $100 "Gaming Headphones." You'd be mistaken. Dolby Atmos in a pair of $100 headphones is marketing bologna.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not sure if this really needs to be said, but if you're expecting crazy HiFi from $100 "Gaming Headphones." You'd be mistaken. Dolby Atmos in a pair of $100 headphones is marketing bologna.

I will say this, both headphones actually sound really good for the price. You’re not going to get better sounding wireless headsets for $99, IMO.

 

[iHaunter]

I will say this, both headphones actually sound really good for the price. You’re not going to get better sounding wireless headsets for $99, IMO.

I dunno, I had the Pulse 3D, I really didn't like them. Can get a pair for Audio Technicas for $70 that're 3x better. Though they're not wireless and has no mic.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I dunno, I had the Pulse 3D, I really didn't like them. Can get a pair for Audio Technicas for $70 that're 3x better. Though they're not wireless and has no mic.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

It’s not a Howard Stern show either. It’s a spatial audio format. Codec evolved, but still an api powered audio format none the less.

So my comparison is valid since Atmos is also not a codec. A new ps5 also comes with a free trial of ps+. Xbox comes with Sonic. Atmos is not required to use the product and Sonic is the free included alternative.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So my comparison is valid since Atmos is also not a codec. A new ps5 also comes with a free trial of ps+. Xbox comes with Sonic. Atmos is not required to use the product and Sonic is the free included alternative.

 

[iHaunter]

Yeah but you can just plug it into the controller. And controller has a mic.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah but you can just plug it into the controller. And controller has a mic.

True, curiously do they have 3D audio to take advantage of Tempest or the like?

Mic clarity and noise cancellation are exceptional on the Pulse, I’m not sure how it is on the DualSense in comparison.

 

[iHaunter]

True, curiously do they have 3D audio to take advantage of Tempest or the like?

Any headset would. Tempest Engine can make any headset simulate 3D audio. Technically 3- audio is not possible with a headset because you lack the distance. But the chip simulates it very well, it may as well be real 3D.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

So how does atoms work then?

I'm not a scientist but how I understand it (from copying and pasting off of a random google link) is:

"Atoms are small. Really, really small. You’ll probably have heard that matter is made of bundles of these tiny things. You’ll likely also know that you can’t see them with the naked eye. We are told to take on trust the idea that atoms are there, interacting with each other and being building blocks for our world. For most people, though, that’s not good enough. Science prides itself on the way it uses real observations to work out the mysteries of the universe – so how did we come to conclude that atoms exist, and what have we learned about these tiny structures?

It might seem as if there’s a simple way to prove atoms exist: put them under the microscope. But this approach won’t work. In fact, even the most powerful light-focusing microscopes can’t visualise single atoms. What makes an object visible is the way it deflects visible light waves. Atoms are so much smaller than the wavelength of visible light that the two don’t really interact. To put it another way, atoms are invisible to light itself. However, atoms do have observable effects on some of the things we can see.

Hundreds of years ago in 1785 Dutch scientist Jan Ingenhousz was studying a strange phenomenon that he couldn’t quite make sense of. Minute particles of coal dust were darting about on the surface of some alcohol in his lab.
About 50 years later, in 1827, the Scottish botanist Robert Brown described something curiously similar. He had his microscope trained on some pollen grains. Brown noticed that some of the grains released tiny particles – which would then move away from the pollen grain in a random jittery dance.

At first, Brown wondered if the particles were really some sort of unknown organism. He repeated the experiment with other substances like rock dust, which he knew wasn’t alive, and saw the same strange motion again.
It would take almost another century for science to offer an explanation. Einstein came along and developed a mathematical formula that would predict this very particular type of movement – by then called Brownian motion, after Robert Brown. Einstein’s theory was that that the particles from the pollen grains were being moved around because they were constantly crashing into millions of tinier molecules of water – molecules that were made of atoms."

They're also a currency in Fallout 76 where you pay real money for in-game items. In either case, Todd Howard has the answer for you: It just works.

 

[recursive]

I swear to god we really will be charged for Oxygen one day!

What do you think clean air credits are?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Any headset would. Tempest Engine can make any headset simulate 3D audio. Technically 3- audio is not possible with a headset because you lack the distance. But the chip simulates it very well, it may as well be real 3D.

I thought they needed certain frequency ranges as well from what I was reading. Then again, any modern decent set should work. Obviously not cheap ass Walkman phones, lol.

 

[iHaunter]

I thought they needed certain frequency ranges as well from what I was reading. Then again, any modern decent set should work. Obviously not cheap ass Walkman phones, lol.

Yeah for sure. Kinda cool that you can plug into a controller to be honest. Glad they kept those features.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah for sure. Kinda cool that you can plug into a controller to be honest. Glad they kept those features.

Which model do you have? Interested in checking them out. And how’s the bass level?

 

[iHaunter]

Which model do you have? Interested in checking them out. And how’s the bass level?

Oh, I don't, I just said you can. I use these: HiFiMan HE-560 V4 Premium Planar Magnetic Headphones HE560V4 (adorama.com)

These are great for $50: Amazon.com: Audio-Technica ATH-M20X Professional Studio Monitor Headphones, Black: Musical Instruments

 

[Jigga117]

Where have y’all been? This is nothing new and Dolby has been doing this for years anyone don’t want to use Dolby can use Microsoft’s option with Windows Sonic for free.

 

[Black_Stride]

I guess this thread has run its course?

 

[DeepEnigma]

I guess this thread has run its course?

Keep bumping it tho

 

[Iced Arcade]

This isn't a very deep enigma.

 

[Hendrick's]

Lol, last I checked you only have 2 ears.
It's only matter of time before headphones equal or surpass the performance of a true surround sound system, and its getting closer all the time. You sound like someone who hasn't even tried it.

So true. 2 channel virtual surround with Atmos is no joke.

 

[DeepEnigma]

This isn't a very deep enigma.

Nah, was the shallow end of the pool.

 

[DonF]

That's not what happening here.
You have to pay to use a third party proprietary optional codecs.
And it's better to not have access to any of those codec at all /s
It's better to not see another brand use its famous plastic box as a trojan horse to push its proprietary tech locking options from people in the process. /s
where are the most blind fanboy again ?

edit : and MS is not better and doing the trojan thing a lot ...i will prevent some of you putting in my mouth something i didn't say. But on this subject it's funny to see people concerned to have access to third party solutions because you have to pay for them when competition is completely locking this choice from you.

My Galaxy phone has dolby atmos and I didn't pay shit for it. Why people have to pay a monthly fee for it when you buy a headphone? MS could have perfectly get a deal for the licence, but they decided to transfer that in full to the consumer.
It sets a bad precedent, is all I'm saying.

 

[longdi]

My Galaxy phone has dolby atmos and I didn't pay shit for it. Why people have to pay a monthly fee for it when you buy a headphone? MS could have perfectly get a deal for the licence, but they decided to transfer that in full to the consumer.
It sets a bad precedent, is all I'm saying.

why blame MS? It is probably Dolby egging MS to put in this trial software. Otherwise MS would have just shipped the hp as a hp.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

I must be too old for this shit. I came from A time before shitty gif replies on internet forums.

 

[DeepEnigma]

why blame MS? It is probably Dolby egging MS to put in this trial software. Otherwise MS would have just shipped the hp as a hp.

 

[Darlingcognito]

Holy shit, scraping the bottom the barrel or not?

 

[Fbh]

I absolutely believe subscription service based hardware features will get increasingly more common over the next decade.

There's already some car brands playing around with the idea and I just read some article the other day about some sort of printer that will be limiting how much stuff users can print per month if they don't subscribe to their service.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I absolutely believe subscription service based hardware features will get increasingly more common over the next decade.

There's already some car brands playing around with the idea and I just read some article the other day about some sort of printer that will be limiting how much stuff users can print per month if they don't subscribe to their service.

Office equipment rental already gets charged per color or b&w impressions from companies like Xerox and Toshiba, and they check on and bill you remotely. Like reading an electrical meter.

 

[Kagey K]

My Galaxy phone has dolby atmos and I didn't pay shit for it. Why people have to pay a monthly fee for it when you buy a headphone? MS could have perfectly get a deal for the licence, but they decided to transfer that in full to the consumer.
It sets a bad precedent, is all I'm saying.

It’s not a monthly fee. It’s a 1 time fee that enables it on up to 10 consoles or PCs.

 

[DonF]

It’s not a monthly fee. It’s a 1 time fee that enables it on up to 10 consoles or PCs.

 

[Sir Vilhelm]

I must be too old for this shit. I came from A time before shitty gif replies on internet forums.

He's a troll, just throw on your ignore list and you'll have a better time.

 

[DeepEnigma]

He's a troll, just throw on your ignore list and you'll have a better time.

Do you need a safe space?

 

[Sir Vilhelm]

Do you need a safe space?

From what?

 

[DeepEnigma]

From what?

Difference of opinions.

 

[ManaByte]

Holy shit, scraping the bottom the barrel or not?

"Xbox has no games" doesn't work anymore.

 

[DeepEnigma]

"Xbox has no games" doesn't work anymore.

Poor Xbox, they're the only platform holder that ever receives an eyebrow raise for interesting practices on the internet.

 

[Three]

Or you could just use Windows Sonic and never spend the $15.

You could also just use the regular horse armor too but it's kind of shit that there is so much nickle and dimming. MS get 30% too and Dolby get your data.