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[WitchHunter]

In another dimension, somewhere:

Compatibility is not compulsory,

but ... .... ... .... ....

Nuthuggers gonna be bitten in da arse.

 

[Thaedolus]

This is great. Takes one more complicating factor out of PC gaming without being compulsory, and you know the community will set up profiles and such to make up for any gaps.

 

[midasmulligan]

keeps getting better and better

 

[Kacho]

This is really nice. I can’t wait to see the full list.

 

[ethomaz]

I thought they said all Steam games will run fine on Deck or something like.

 

[CamHostage]

I thought they said all Steam games will run fine on Deck or something like.

Pretty much they will run fine on it, but even so, some games will suck to play on the thing.

If you have a game that's heavily M&K, if you have an old game with no button glyphs to know what to press when, if you have a game that doesn't have a default 1280x720/800 display resolution in its presets, if you have a game with pre-formatted text and tiny graphic elements that don't scale well, it'll suck. But Steam Deck will probably still play it more or less normally for its specs, it'll just suck for you.

Thus, the new Verified process, and hopefully publishers with popular games that aren't verified will do what they can to update their products to make them work better on Deck as well as other Steam-fed platforms. (Some of these fixes might actually be long-overdue improvements for PC gamers too.)

 

[Larxia]

I thought they said all Steam games will run fine on Deck or something like.

You probably didn't even read what the criterias were about.
How would you play a mouse and keyboard game on the deck? (without plugin an external mouse, of course)
This is just a checking process to make sure the games are natively playable on the deck without any input, display issues etc, it's not even about performances.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I thought they said all Steam games will run fine on Deck or something like.

i guess you could play an RTS on here but would you actually want to

seems like theyre just breaking it down into what will run with a controller and play well at native res

 

[Kacho]

I thought they said all Steam games will run fine on Deck or something like.

Most probably will but there will be exceptions.

 

[Shifty1897]

This is really smart. Still waiting for reviews on some things before I get one but I'm looking forward to hearing more.

 

[bender]

Just need to see Max Payne and Max Payne 2.

This is really smart. Still waiting for reviews on some things before I get one but I'm looking forward to hearing more.

I'm kind of glad I missed the first wave when I pre-ordered so we can see reviews and impressions.

 

[jshackles]

Imagine being the intern at Valve that has to play all those hentai games just to see if they work with the Steam Deck

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Imagine being the intern at Valve that has to play all those hentai games just to see if they work with the Steam Deck

Sounds like a great time.

 

[Fake]

This will put many modern reviewers to the shame. THIS is how you review a game. Amazing.

Hope new reviewers follow this standart.

 

[Lupin3]

This is really good, and look at that ratio. People sure love the Deck!

 

[Bboy AJ]

Can’t wait. This approach will be very helpful.

 

[cromofo]

That's pretty cool

 

[lils]

good idea. seems like the deck mostly appeals to pc gamers who already have hundreds of games available and know what's what, but for people new to the PC ecosystem this is very helpful

 

[THE DUCK]

I'm pretty sure they already said this, bit I assume these games will also load a profile optimized for the gpu/cpu of the Steam Deck?

 

[jaysius]

Great idea, but how long til it goes by the wayside?

 

[GreatnessRD]

Just get Proton to god tier so I can install POP_OS on my laptop. This is why the Deck must succeed. For the greater good, dammit! Turn all them motherfuckin' games green!

 

[Ozriel]

This will put many modern reviewers to the shame. THIS is how you review a game. Amazing.

Hope new reviewers follow this standart.

why?
This is purely a technical review of how the game works on the Deck. And publishers are free to disregard and publish as is.

 

[CapnAmaricrunch]

Yes more refinement is a good thing

 

[KAL2006]

I like this idea.

I'm haven't used Steam in a long time but is there community presets you can use for game controls. If so that is another user friendly way to have games just work with the Deck in terms of controls if developer hadn't bothered to make it just work with Deck controls.

I was also hoping community presets for performance, like a 30fps fidelity mode or a 60fps performance mode.

 

[MrFunSocks]

So basically "supports a controller and supports 720p". This is really just a marketing thing.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Amusing that this is the inverse of the famous "Windows Ready" PCs. What with it being software compatibility rather than hardware compatibility.

And of course, the famous Microsoft blunder when it comes to "Vista capable". i still can't believe MS did that shit.

 

[Warnen]

Is destiny 2 on the list?

 

[Thaedolus]

So basically "supports a controller and supports 720p". This is really just a marketing thing.

Didn't watch the video huh?

 

[ripeavocado]

So a checkmark like on Twitter but in this case doesn’t mean people/things to avoid?

 

[MrFunSocks]

Didn't watch the video huh?

No, read the thread and looked at the pictures that show the criteria. What did I miss?

 

[Thaedolus]

No, read the thread and looked at the pictures that show the criteria. What did I miss?

The parts explaining why it's not just a marketing thing

 

[MrFunSocks]

The parts explaining why it's not just a marketing thing

Are they different to the things listed in the pictures in this thread under input/display/seamlessness?

 

[Kokoloko85]

Nice.
Now come MS and Sony. Time to make handhelds that can play PS4/PS5 - Xbox library games

 

[Mercador]

I wonder if Stellaris will be playable with the 2 pads.

 

[Sean Mirrsen]

No, read the thread and looked at the pictures that show the criteria. What did I miss?

- Works on the Deck with no tinkering required by the user
- Properly uses the Steam Deck's controller, not just any controller
- Never forces the use of touchscreen or a hardware keyboard from start to finish
- Has legible text at the Deck's screen size and resolution
- Provides a good play experience on the Deck with at least 30fps of performance

So I'd say you missed a fair few things besides "supports a controller and 720p".

 

[JimboJones]

This will put many modern reviewers to the shame. THIS is how you review a game. Amazing.

Hope new reviewers follow this standart.

Just needs a tick box for social issues.

 

[MrFunSocks]

- Works on the Deck with no tinkering required by the user
- Properly uses the Steam Deck's controller, not just any controller
- Never forces the use of touchscreen or a hardware keyboard from start to finish
- Has legible text at the Deck's screen size and resolution
- Provides a good play experience on the Deck with at least 30fps of performance

So I'd say you missed a fair few things besides "supports a controller and 720p".

Most of that is nothingsauce.

- The Deck is a PC so games will work with no tinkering required.
- The Decks controller is the same as a 360 controller.
- PC games don't force touchscreen controls on anything because 99.99999% of pc's that people play games on don't have touchscreens. Basically zero games require a hardware keyboard.
- "good play experience" lol. Doubt there are many games that won't hit 30fps on low at 720p.

 

[KAL2006]

I think Valve should allow games that need to run on slighlty lower than native resolution such as 500p and upsacled to hit 30fps. There are many games you can run lower than native and upscale or use FSR and would look fine.

Also what about point and click games. Why should they be just listed as playable using the touch pad as a pointer isn't a big deal and should be listed as great on deck. Not everything has to have same criteria across the board. A game that uses pointer such as a strategy game probably isn't as good on deck. But a game like say Broken Sword is great in Deck. Both use a pointer but because Broken Sword is a slower paced point and click game it is great to play on Deck.

 

[JimboJones]

Most of that is nothingsauce.

- The Deck is a PC so games will work with no tinkering required.
- The Decks controller is the same as a 360 controller.
- PC games don't force touchscreen controls on anything because 99.99999% of pc's that people play games on don't have touchscreens. Basically zero games require a hardware keyboard.
- "good play experience" lol. Doubt there are many games that won't hit 30fps on low at 720p.

A game like FF7 would probably get a yellow playable rating because of the annoying launcher which you need to navigate with a mouse/touchscreen before starting the game.
Also some older games that may not work with xinput but once mapped using a community config work fine but that extra step earns it a yellow rating.

It's useful information.

 

[rofif]

This will put many modern reviewers to the shame. THIS is how you review a game. Amazing.

Hope new reviewers follow this standart.

Lol you can find all this info on pcgamingwiki.
Why would a reviewer go into technicalities

 

[Edgelord79]

Will be selling my Switch to pick one of these up at some point. This looks so much better.

 

[Razvedka]

Just get Proton to god tier so I can install POP_OS on my laptop. This is why the Deck must succeed. For the greater good, dammit! Turn all them motherfuckin' games green!

This. This is the vision

 

[Sean Mirrsen]

Most of that is nothingsauce.

- The Deck is a PC so games will work with no tinkering required.
- The Decks controller is the same as a 360 controller.
- PC games don't force touchscreen controls on anything because 99.99999% of pc's that people play games on don't have touchscreens. Basically zero games require a hardware keyboard.
- "good play experience" lol. Doubt there are many games that won't hit 30fps on low at 720p.

Actually, no.

- The Deck is a very particular PC, held to very particular standards. If a game requires custom graphics settings, that's tinkering. If a game requires a community controller setup, that's tinkering. Etc, etc.
- The Deck's controller is very much not the same as a 360 controller, for one, and for another a game does not need to support a controller at all, in order to pass the check - an old-as-heck game that only knows keyboard and mouse, will still get a pass if it has Steam Input support and ships with a default control layout that is comfortable to play.
- "PC games don't force touchscreen controls" and "Basically zero games require a hardware keyboard", have you actually played, any game that isn't a console port, ever? Even then a lot of games that would require you to enter a name, don't use a gamepad-friendly controller on PC, because PCs are assumed to have keyboards for typing. Some games have their own launchers that require you to type your login and password, and those expect to see a normal keyboard, and don't automatically bring up the onscreen one, either.
- Uh. Sure. Now the Deck is some mythical beast that can handle any game at 30fps. Nevermind that the game actually has to be able to scale that low in the first place, and then actually detect that it's running on the Deck and automatically select the appropriate profile.

So, come on. Stop with this doodoo. The verified mark will be very important to let people have a properly seamless play experience on the Deck. If it's a "marketing thing", then it's only marketing for the games themselves, improving their sales on the platform.

 

[Papacheeks]

I’ll say this again. Nintendo needs that Pro model faster than they think.

This is going to sell like crazy overseas. If monster hunter rise/world and Ff14 run well on steam deck. God I really do pray for Nintendo that they have figured out their issues with developing switch games.

 

[MasterCornholio]

There's always the option to dual boot with windows incase there's a game that you want to play.

 

[KAL2006]

I’ll say this again. Nintendo needs that Pro model faster than they think.

This is going to sell like crazy overseas. If monster hunter rise/world and Ff14 run well on steam deck. God I really do pray for Nintendo that they have figured out their issues with developing switch games.

Yep I think Chinese and Japanese market is the biggest potential for Deck. Japan is basically handheld dominated and Chinese are PC gamers. Both of those markets should have huge succes with Deck. Those anime hentai games will be played on Deck, Monster Hunter World and Rise. Final Fantasy 14.

 

[MasterCornholio]

So, come on. Stop with this doodoo. The verified mark will be very important to let people have a properly seamless play experience on the Deck. If it's a "marketing thing", then it's only marketing for the games themselves, improving their sales on the platform.

Great point now what if Valve didn't do this?

Imagine someone downloading a game that doesn't work on the Steam Deck.

What would happen in that case?

Now imagine it happening to many others who download the same game.

That wouldn't make a good customer experience now would it?

It could be a key to avoiding unsatisfied customers and countless avoidable refunds.

 

[Fake]

Why would a reviewer go into technicalities

Because... you know... they're paid?

 

[MrFunSocks]

Actually, no.

- The Deck is a very particular PC, held to very particular standards. If a game requires custom graphics settings, that's tinkering. If a game requires a community controller setup, that's tinkering. Etc, etc.
- The Deck's controller is very much not the same as a 360 controller, for one, and for another a game does not need to support a controller at all, in order to pass the check - an old-as-heck game that only knows keyboard and mouse, will still get a pass if it has Steam Input support and ships with a default control layout that is comfortable to play.
- "PC games don't force touchscreen controls" and "Basically zero games require a hardware keyboard", have you actually played, any game that isn't a console port, ever? Even then a lot of games that would require you to enter a name, don't use a gamepad-friendly controller on PC, because PCs are assumed to have keyboards for typing. Some games have their own launchers that require you to type your login and password, and those expect to see a normal keyboard, and don't automatically bring up the onscreen one, either.
- Uh. Sure. Now the Deck is some mythical beast that can handle any game at 30fps. Nevermind that the game actually has to be able to scale that low in the first place, and then actually detect that it's running on the Deck and automatically select the appropriate profile.

So, come on. Stop with this doodoo. The verified mark will be very important to let people have a properly seamless play experience on the Deck. If it's a "marketing thing", then it's only marketing for the games themselves, improving their sales on the platform.

Games don't have to detect they're running on the Deck lol. What are you even talking about?

If a game can't scale that low then the Deck won't meet the minimum requirements for the game in the first place, will it?