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Breaking: Microsoft to acquire Activision-Blizzard in near 70$ billion deal
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StreetsofBeige
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Not true. The games are always on PC too. And possibly through cloud streaming or whatever. And it's not like MS stopped Minecraft and Bethesda games on other platforms.
Now if you really want to see multiplatform support dropping, just look at any studio Sony buys who made games on many platforms. Once they buy someone all they make goes 100% Sony PS.
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Kenpachii
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Only ones bigger then activision blizzard are microsoft themselves / sony / nintendo / tenscent.
So tenscent i guess.
Probably a shitpost of a tweet, i wouldn't expect too much
DaGwaphics
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Would be a full circle move. Wasn't Steam looking to be officially supported by Windows as part of the base OS in the beginning?
saintjules
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Agreed. Not even a Sega + Square Enix acquisition could even match..... Maybe?
Gary has usually been a straight shooter. There could be something big, but it might be subjective.
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OsirisBlack
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This is a serious look at how big my dick is move on MS part. Not sure how bad this is but its definitely not good. Reports are that they are still going to publish games on Sony's platform but seriously why would you? Then again you do have to recoup some of that $75 billion.... wait they paid more for this shit than Disney paid for Star Wars. GOOD FUCKING LORD.
IntentionalPun
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Yeah not "pulling communities" means still supporting Warzone.
I could see MS continuing to support their "perpetual" cash cow on Playstation, while releasing their yearly games exclusive to Xbox/PC.
If Warzone ever gets usurped by Warzone 2, then that'll get revisited.
Microsoft pretty much owns majority of American 3rd party developers. This could be a checkmate especially once they start adding call of duty games to gamepass. Seems like in the future it's going to be the machine for First person shooters. A huge win for Xbox and PC gamers.
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splattered
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I guess this is why MS has been reluctant to invest in VR just yet... They are focused on buying huge publishers/devs first. Unless that includes Valve, which could solve their VR deficiency in one fell swoop. Among other things.
DaGwaphics
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Had no idea they were involved with those. Make some good TMNT and Transformers games please, let me enjoy revisiting these IPs from my childhood.
IntentionalPun
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They also don't have to make the 70 billion back, same with the 7 billion from Bethesda.
They bought assets, for a price.. that price is actually in line with the true "value" of Activision if you remove the scandal from them as it's a lower price than Activision was a year ago, market cap wise and gaming has done well in the past year. Buying Activision a year ago probably would have cost north of $120 billion.
Bethesda they "overpaid" but that's still a bunch of assets they own.
Those assets increase the value of MS as a whole, they are things MS can sell in the future if they want to.. but even w/o selling them.. the value of MS goes up.
You don't buy a $1 million house and become $1 million poorer.. you now have an asset worth that much, which if the market is good, will be worth more in a year.
The market, for gaming.. is good.
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Kenpachii
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This is what i am afraid off, gaben is getting older and he isn't that healthy, he could nail PC gaming tommorow and buy valve up if gaben sells. And i bet he will sell if they offer him some absurbt amout of money.
It will be a absolute shit show for PC gaming in general.
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Bragr
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A huge chunk of Playstation's success financially is from Call of Duty, Madden, FIFA, and games like that, because it brings with it hordes of casual players that subscribe to PS Plus.
Gonna be interesting to see if their growth slows down in the next year, as I assume casual players are gonna start to lean Xbox now.
TheDreadLord
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I played WoW a lot in the past. If it goes to GP I might give a try again.
Dolomite
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BouncyFrag
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My underpowered, yet scrappy Series S is ready.
0neAnd0nly
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Current landscape of gaming is trash. I hate to be negative, but MS throwing money at everything won’t save the Xbox.
PlayStation being cocky and complacent has allowed this to occur.
Console gaming looking bleak IMO. Been trending this way.
Makes me appreciate Nintendo a lot tbh.
PlayStation being cocky and complacent has allowed this to occur.
Console gaming looking bleak IMO. Been trending this way.
Makes me appreciate Nintendo a lot tbh.
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Negotiator101
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How much would that cost?
SlimeGooGoo
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Plantoid
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Almost doubling the revenue with just 1 aquisition
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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I don't think this is the last of the big purchases from Microsoft. They are likely eyeing Take Two, EA, or UBI once this one closes.
If the Bethesda acquisition wasn't enough this should give a clear signal to Sony that they need to spend some capital here or MS will eat their lunch.
If the Bethesda acquisition wasn't enough this should give a clear signal to Sony that they need to spend some capital here or MS will eat their lunch.
Boss Mog
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Huge news for sure. I don't think making CoD an exclusive is going to have as big an impact as some people in this thread think, 10 years ago sure, but CoD has gone downhill big time the last few years. I was a huge CoD guy, clocked countless hours into MW2, BO and MW3. B02 was still decent but this is where I felt the franchise started to go downhill. I think the last CoD I bought day one was Ghosts and that's only because it was a launch title for PS4, but I quickly dropped it for BF4 which was phenomenal, to the point where for the first year, my PS4 was just a BF4 box. Sadly BF has steadily been going downhill since BF4 as well. None of my friends who were big on CoD still play it either. Warzone is still pretty big but I doubt they would shoot themselves in the foot by taking a huge chunk of the market away from a F2P game. We'll see though I guess...
Negotiator101
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Yes Xbox is dead, its all over for Xbox
Kenpachii
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Jup and this is 2020, pretty sure bethesda isn't included in this one also. i would not be shocked at the end of 2022 they are the biggest.
James Sawyer Ford
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Well after the VR thread I could prob do that to win some points with Team Green for the upcoming Console Representative Presidential Election
Jokes aside, like I've said a ton of times I won't cry about an acquisition or drag my feet in the mud as if that'll change anything. If a deal's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. That said, these deals always tend to follow the books, have consenting parties, and don't infringe on anyone's civil or human rights (Acti's reported workplace problems aside).
And like with the Sony acquisitions, I'm an optimist. These deals tend to do a lot of good, and for this one I'm actually more interested in what it does for the Acti/Blizzard teams. Not just in getting some of the problematic stuff out of some of the studios, but freeing a lot of them up so they can work on IP besides COD. And of course it'll have a lot of benefits for MS too, not just for traditional gaming but mobile too...same as a lot of Sony's acquisitions including whichever ones they do in the future.
...hopefully kept that to 100 words, I save the pages for thread OPs
We shall see
I would only be optimistic if this leads to there being no exclusives at all, and Microsoft/Sony come to some sort of arrangement like the Blu-Ray days before for movies
It almost seems like it’s too big for it to not maybe force Sony’s hand into allowing GamePass, and possibly Sony releasing their service on Xbox
I’d honestly love it if that happened and think it would be good for the industry
These games are too big and expensive to be walked off
0neAnd0nly
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Not at all what I meant. I have been in the industry and respect all 3.Yes Xbox is dead, its all over for Xbox
What I mean is that MS buying everything won’t make the Xbox #1 again. They just haven’t had a solid run in a while of producing hits from inside the MS umbrella. Not consistently at least. I didn’t mean save as a literal term. I think MS knows this, which is why they started the whole “cross play” and “pc hybrid” drum last generation.
I just don’t like that all major studios and publishers are getting bought out by the few major players. I really miss the ingenuities of the PS2/ XB —> Ps3/ 360 days.
I just don’t like the outlook. It isn’t a negative sentiment towards XB. Not here to console beef.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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While Sony might not have nearly as much money as a Microsoft, Apple, etc., they are far from being broke, and they could've purchased Zenimax if they really wanted, without taking out loans. They could even do so with a Take-Two, even post-Zygna purchase, also without taking out a loan (though they'd deplete the vast majority of their cash-on-hand to do so).
Also where are you dudes at every time Tencent or especially Embracer Group buys up yet another studio? MS does something like this once every few years and the world is supposedly doomed. Tencent and Embracer make acquisitions regularly throughout the year and most people pay them no never mind. They're all acquisitions; scale doesn't matter in the world of business. If you have more money, you can buy bigger.
yurinka
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Sony games were selling more than the MS ones before the Zenimax deal. If Zenimax games sold around 50M on PS4 being generous, they weren't even a 3% of the over 1700 million games sold for PS4 a few years ago (plus more games that will be sold until it dies, so very likely will end being a way smaller percent).
So the Zenimax deal was going to have a little impact on PS, specially considering that part of these sales were due to featurings and exclusivity or marketing deals with Sony, that Sony now will make with other publisher as they could do with the spare games from Activision that Sony supported, as recent Crash or Tony Hawk. The Blizzard games are mostly PC stuff that didn't affect PlayStation.
PS4 sold almost 120M consoles. Every CoD game sells around 20-30M copies, and a good chunk on PS, let's say around 10M. So less than 10% of the PS4 users buy CoD. And in case CoD leaves PS (something very likely) we should see which % of them would leave PS because of that.
Part of these sales were also thanks to marketing partnerships with Sony, that one will be assigned to other companies, so part of these sales will be compensated with this. And PS has been growing during years, so this growth will compensate the remaining.
So the impact on PS hardware and software sales won't be that important, they will barely notice it. PS will continue selling the double of the amount of consoles than Xbox does, and will continue selling a shit ton of games more for it than Xbox does. Sony's gaming division makes more revenue than the Xbox gaming division+AB, and this is counting that now AB gets a ton of revenue from PS which pretty likely won't be there in the future.
Mister Wolf
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Does Activision own Sekiro?
I'd say only Take Two out of the big publishers is as big as Activision. EA is small fry compared to Activision, their biggest game is FIFA which Microsoft would still have to release on all platforms.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Isn't this list fake? Could've sworn Nintendo had $16 billion in revenue and Microsoft $15 billion (gaming division), or maybe that was including a part of 2021 as well. IIRC guys like Zhuge posted such info on their Twitter a while ago.
splattered
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So you're basically saying "fuck consoles, I'm just going to build a high end PC and continue to support Sony and Microsoft by buying all their games." So they lose out on what... $500 once from you while you continue supporting them in other ways?
This way of thinking makes no sense... People might as well just say "I don't like this. Games are dead to me. I quit."
DaGwaphics
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I'm sure that they look at Activision as an asset that has value. There are a lot of ways that MS can increase the value of that asset, both in gaming and beyond (TV deals, etc.) just like they can with Zenimax.
Plus, both of these were profitable businesses.
Loxus
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To make back that 70 billion,
Microsoft would have to sell 1.2 billion video game copies at $60,
or have an average of 60 million Game Pass subscribers a year for 10 consecutive years.
And that does not account for the cost invested in making new games or Xbox Live revenue.
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