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Where do we go from here PlayStation Nation?

Kerotan

Member
Annual. I think it was $12B.
Good turnaround for Sony. I'd imagine those profits will only increase. That gives them a warchest going forward and playstation is the most important part of Sony now should get priority.

MS could go and buy everything but there's 2 things stopping them. Monopoly laws and the Japanese government. That will allow sony room to breath and make a few purchases.
 
WTF are you on about? Sony can buy a $10 billion publisher. They have the funds. But will they is the question?
$10 billion and $70 billion is a huge discrepancy. They can buy literally anyone I suppose as you said, but I have a feeling that they won’t. They have only been acquiring a few small indie studios and some timed exclusives so far. I don’t see them whipping out their checkbook buying a Rockstar, Capcom or SquareEnix anytime soon because they probably feel like they don’t need to. Maybe things will change, but I highly doubt it.
 

ChiefDada

Gold Member
I'm lucky because I don't have any interest in Activison and Bethesta games right now.

Edit: I might consider buying Xbox Series S if the upcoming Indiana Jones game is exclusive. I hope not.
It's not about that. It's about whether or not there will be a Playstation 6 and/or sequels to your favorite AAA IP. Casual gamers subsidize these projects one way or another. Sony and Nintendo know this and there is reason for concern.
 

tommib

Member
just buy an XSX
I’m selling my S tomorrow and you come here to tempt us with the Devil himself?

max von sydow priest GIF
 

ChiefDada

Gold Member
Most of PS gamers say they are not affected, because they dont play CoD, they do not understand what CoD means for PS. If CoD goes exclusive, PS willblose 30% of the console sells, because in reality they are driven by CoD and FIFA players, not GoW players. And also will lose the money generated by CoD games, which will influence future 1st party studio budgets.
Finally someone gets it.
 
I understand now why Phil said that the competition will also put their games on a subscription service day one. Sony can't afford to half ass it at this point.
 
If T2 bought a company for 12BN which is two thirds their size then it's possible for Sony to aquire them or merge.

Imo with MS likely to buy EA or Ubisoft in the next 10 years it would be in sony's interest to aquire at least 3 of Capcom, Square Enix, From Software and Kojima Productions and Sega. Otherwise they risk MS acquiring them.

I also feel sony need to get their hands on at least 1 major Western publisher such as ubisoft or T2.

Microsoft (who has a clear relationship with T2) Would never allow this to happen, theyd easily outbid them.
 

THE DUCK

voted poster of the decade by bots
Bern thinking about how this affects sony and Nintendo, it might be worse than expected.
Both sony and Nintendo had quite a few multiplatform games from Activision and Bethesda that are likely to disappear once contracts are up. This could have a more damaging effect on Switch 2 and or ps6 than anything.
 
$10 billion and $70 billion is a huge discrepancy. They can buy literally anyone I suppose as you said, but I have a feeling that they won’t. They have only been acquiring a few small indie studios and some timed exclusives so far. I don’t see them whipping out their checkbook buying a Rockstar, Capcom or SquareEnix anytime soon because they probably feel like they don’t need to. Maybe things will change, but I highly doubt it.

I would think, or hope anyway, that this was the wake up call they needed.

All i've seen these past few years is a focus to prop up their non-gaming divisions while PS just cruises along making them bank. Now that their core business is very clearly under threat I expect them to reavulaute exactly where the focus should be.
 
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assurdum

Banned
More the years passes and more Phil reveals the true himself. We have reached the point where a company which has never lead the sales WW could destroy the other one just buying all the publisher on the market. And people are surprise if MS don't release any decent software release from years. Why they should care. They go on just monopolizing everything offering the minimal quality possible. Now I'm curious to see all those quality games promise under their umbrella. Will be entertaining to see how will work in the reality (and probably dramatically sad for the gamers).
 
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fart town usa

Gold Member
Finally someone gets it.
I think most people recognize that, but Sony potentially losing COD doesn't mean it has to affect the level of quality from Sony's 1st party studios and the remaining 3rd party studios that release games on the Playstation platform.

Yes, losing COD could cut into their console sales but it's hard to say if it really will make that much of a dent in console sales overall. Adults who are serious about gaming likely also have a PC and use Steam or just buy all the consoles. Casuals will stick to their console of choice, and parents who buy their kids consoles might be more inclined to go the MS route. I have a hard time seeing Sony die-hards jump ship to XBOX, they would likely just get a PC or find a new game to play.

The news is certainly a huge deal but I still think it's too early to assume that this is going to affect Sony in a massively negative way.

Look at the Switch, most of the major games don't even go to that console but people still buy it like crazy. I'm not even aware if the Switch has COD but checking Amazon just now, it seems like they don't?
 
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Kokoloko85

Member
Personally apart from Sekiro it doesnt make any difference to me.
But it shows what MS is doing and will do going forward, buy all the studios.

As a Playstation and Nintendo fan, I mostly play 1st party games and mostly Japanese 3rd party games. Going forward, Sony or Nintendo have to protect/buy these Japanese IP’s otherwise MS will buy them and they will just be 1st party company…

So if PlaysStation wants to carry on, they have to buy IP’s and publishers, not small PC porting studios lol
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
More the years passes and more Phil reveals the true himself. We have reached the point where a company which has never lead the sales WW could destroy the other one just buying all the publisher on the market. And people are surprise if we won't see any decent software release by MS from years. They go on just monopolizing everything offering the minimal quality possible.
So you feel this way after every acquisition?
 

GHG

Member
I would think, or hope anyway, that this was the wake up call they needed.

All i've seen these past few years is a focus to prop up their non-gaming divisions while PS just cruises along making them bank. Now that their core business is very clearly under threat I expect them to reavulaute exactly where the focus should be.

When they see a large proportion of that PS Plus revenue that they've been taking for granted disappear I'm sure it will jolt them in to action.

One thing is certain though, no way Jim Ryan will survive declining PS Plus subscription numbers.
 

Alphagear

Member
Personally apart from Sekiro it doesnt make any difference to me.
But it shows what MS is doing and will do going forward, buy all the studios.

As a Playstation and Nintendo fan, I mostly play 1st party games and mostly Japanese 3rd party games. Going forward, Sony or Nintendo have to protect/buy these Japanese IP’s otherwise MS will buy them and they will just be 1st party company…

So if PlaysStation wants to carry on, they have to buy IP’s and publishers, not small PC porting studios lol

Sekiro IP is owned by From Software not Activision.

 
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Be interesting to see if Sony bring out a 1st person cod style sort of game going forward, I know they have that ex cod dev with leviathan studios (probably got the wrong name completely!) working on a first person game I believe. But yeah I do think Sony need a first person on their own system and can’t rely on cod or BF(what a shit show) going forward.
 

Kokoloko85

Member
Sekiro IP is owned by From Software not Activision.

Ah Im glad its with FromSoftware. TBH only Miyazaki should direct the Souls IP’s he started
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
What Sony can do to counter is do what they've been heavily doing since the start of PS4, sign up partnership deals like crazy with everyone.

Lock in gamers by now making the exclusive deals 3 years long instead of 2 years.
 
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RoadHazard

Gold Member
This just accelerates their transition into a publisher. Can't keep trying to kick water uphill and fight Microsoft.

Would they do that though? Sony is a hardware company. Sure, with PlayStation they're also a software and service company, but that's always been focused mainly on their own hardware, similar to Nintendo.

I almost see it as more likely that IF they leave the console hardware business, they'll spin PlayStation off into a separate company rather than keeping it as part of Sony.

Edit: I guess for movies and music they are a publisher though, even though they also make hardware in those segments.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
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Stock has dropped 8% today since the news dropped.

Note to Sony bros: Hold strong. lol

I mean this is REALLY bad. They will lose millions of PS+ subs, hundreds of millions from COD royalties, and god knows how many more from console sales, but Nintendo has survived without CoD, Elder Scrolls and GTA. Sony just needs to invest in homegrown talent and new IPs.
 

Kokoloko85

Member
I really hope Sony puts there exclusives day 1 on that new gamepass thing

We’re not even sure how profitable Gamepass is, Playstation can‘t afford to change their current profitable model to something less profitable if that is the case. Something like a PS version of Gamepass could kill them off.

MS can afford to buy something like Call of Duty and not care about COD sales, purely because they have so much money. They are willing to give up Call of Duty money to make Gamepass better. Because I personally think Call of Duty yearly profits are more than all of Gamepass’s profit atm
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
You say this like acquiring whole publishers is standard practice.
Who knows what change will happen. MS's biggest acquisitions past 10 years are Mojong and Zenimax.

What has MS changed about them in 10 years regarding multiplat games so far?
 

Neff

Member
MS is aggressively going for normies, so Sony's best play would be to cater to fanboys and maintain relationships with third parties owning IPs synonymous with PlayStation (too late for Crash and Spyro I guess), wherever possible.

Unfortunately though, I'm not sure Jim Ryan has a terribly firm grip of what made PlayStation so popular in the first place.
 

Alphagear

Member
This acquisition will change definitely change market share in USA. More like the 360PS3 era.

Europe will also maybe go 5050

Sony should be worried about Japan where it is non existent at present.

Only way to change this is buying a couple of Japanese Publishers.

I can see Microsoft buying Take 2 as well. GTA going to Microsoft will be the final nail in the coffin for Sony in the West.
 
Would they do that though? Sony is a hardware company. Sure, with PlayStation they're also a software and service company, but that's always been focused mainly on their own hardware, similar to Nintendo.

I almost see it as more likely that IF they leave the console hardware business, they'll spin PlayStation off into a separate company rather than keeping it as part of Sony.
As much as some people will see this idea as blasphemous, they could build nice sleek little gaming centered HTPCs and develop their own little desktop skin for the OS.

There's a much larger profit margin in Sony's other hardware ventures. Unless I missed something the PS hardware was just a means to software revenue.
 
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Alphagear

Member
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Stock has dropped 8% today since the news dropped.

Note to Sony bros: Hold strong. lol

I mean this is REALLY bad. They will lose millions of PS+ subs, hundreds of millions from COD royalties, and god knows how many more from console sales, but Nintendo has survived without CoD, Elder Scrolls and GTA. Sony just needs to invest in homegrown talent and new IPs.

Its been going down before this announcement.
 

assurdum

Banned
This acquisition will change definitely change market share in USA. More like the 360PS3 era.

Europe will also maybe go 5050

Sony should be worried about Japan where it is non existent at present.

Only way to change this is buying a couple of Japanese Publishers.

I can see Microsoft buying Take 2 as well. GTA going to Microsoft will be the final nail in the coffin for Sony in the West.
Man it's always entertaining see how some people can completely lose any kind of rationality for news like this. Europe now could become 50/50 for such acquisition? Are you serious 😂
 
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GHG

Member
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Stock has dropped 8% today since the news dropped.

Note to Sony bros: Hold strong. lol

I mean this is REALLY bad. They will lose millions of PS+ subs, hundreds of millions from COD royalties, and god knows how many more from console sales, but Nintendo has survived without CoD, Elder Scrolls and GTA. Sony just needs to invest in homegrown talent and new IPs.

Yep Sony need to now go on their own path entirely now, this pretty much forces their hand.

As for the stock, it's still bloated as fuck. The 90's is a good buy in point. People are scrambling for the exit right now and honestly it makes no sense to hold if you're happy to keep an eye on it and get back in at the appropriate point.
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
Where does the Playstation Nation go? Probably to Amazon or Ebay, Mr. Imp Dick told me 50% of you now support scalpers, you heretics. Playstation Nation is fighting in the French and Indian war, apparently. Just stick my tomahawk STRAIGHT into Blizzard's cubicle crawling trunk, I say.

*snorts unidentified white substance off of my PS5*
 

fart town usa

Gold Member
This acquisition will change definitely change market share in USA. More like the 360PS3 era.

Europe will also maybe go 5050

Sony should be worried about Japan where it is non existent at present.

Only way to change this is buying a couple of Japanese Publishers.

I can see Microsoft buying Take 2 as well. GTA going to Microsoft will be the final nail in the coffin for Sony in the West.
I don't think it would though. It would definitely make an impact to some extent but Sony has legit some of the best studios in the world and the games sell like crazy. And I say that as someone who doesn't even play 95% of Sony 1st party titles, lol. Everyone else does though.

I guess the biggest thing, and I don't know if it can be tracked, but how much money does Sony make from Activision/Blizzard/Bethesda games? I guess if it was like 75% of their total income than yea, Sony should be shitting their pants but I'd be surprised if the figures were that high.
 

Alphagear

Member
Man it's always entertaining see how some people can completely lose any kind of rationality for news like this. Europe now could become 50/50 for such acquisition? Are you serious 😂

Most gamers are casual who play FIFA and COD.

Not hardcore gamers on this forum like us who don't give a damn about either.

I am saying this a Sony fan. I just hope Sony puts a ring on Square Enix or Capcom.
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I was never a huge fanboy or anything, but I am a historically PlayStation gamer.


I'm just gonna upgrade my PC and do my best to give Microsoft as little of my money as I can just because I don't like what they have done here to the industry with their acquisitions.
 
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