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Will Gamepass lead to bad filler videogames like Netflix has done to tv shows?

kingfey

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I unsubbed 2 months ago. Not going to resub just to prove a point. You know most of the games are not worth playing. At least for me, I generally play AAA or very good AA games.
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You made a claim, yet you cant support it. Honestly you guys keep talking about you arses. Its shit at this point.
 

dcmk7

Banned
The opposite could actually happen with some games knowing they have a fixed amount of revenue coming a company might take the time needed to finish the game properly vs rushing it out. Also as many have said, there already a crap ton of useless games coming out.
Why would fixed amount of revenue be a good thing?

That system certainly doesn't sound like it would motivate a studio to go above and beyond the bare minimum when the financial remuneration doesn't scale with the games quality.

Which unless I'm mistaken is what you've just described.
 
Season 2 Lol GIF by Friends

You made a claim, yet you cant support it. Honestly you guys keep talking about you arses. Its shit at this point.
You just realized this? Most of the biggest people 'concerned' about Game pass don't have the service and usually aren't in the Xbox ecosystem. The entire premise of this thread is silly. As you mentioned earlier every game on Game pass can be purchased outside of the service unlike a Netflix type service. As long as the service is completely optional talk of 'poor quality' Game pass fodder continues to be console war foolishness.
 

Chukhopops

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S0ULZB0URNE

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You just realized this? Most of the biggest people 'concerned' about Game pass don't have the service and usually aren't in the Xbox ecosystem. The entire premise of this thread is silly. As you mentioned earlier every game on Game pass can be purchased outside of the service unlike a Netflix type service. As long as the service is completely optional talk of 'poor quality' Game pass fodder continues to be console war foolishness.
Thread says....

Will Gamepass lead to bad filler videogames like Netflix has done to tv shows?​



We are here giving our opinions to the question.
People think it's bad filler get hounded for giving there 2 cents. This is BS
 

kingfey

Banned
You just realized this? Most of the biggest people 'concerned' about Game pass don't have the service and usually aren't in the Xbox ecosystem. The entire premise of this thread is silly. As you mentioned earlier every game on Game pass can be purchased outside of the service unlike a Netflix type service. As long as the service is completely optional talk of 'poor quality' Game pass fodder continues to be console war foolishness.
Its always the shit games, not the good ones that gets talked.
 

Chastten

Banned
Not sure how old topicstarter is (I guess <20?) but there has always been filler TV-shows, that has nothing to do with Netflix. Netflix actually has plenty of shows that are the opposite of filler.

It's cool if you don't like Netflix, or GamePass, or both. But this thread is silly.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I unsubbed 2 months ago. Not going to resub just to prove a point. You know most of the games are not worth playing. At least for me, I generally play AAA or very good AA games.

You don't need a sub to see the full catalogue.



You can use the above link to list all the games that are terrible on the service.


iHaunter iHaunter thought lower scores were better here, plays too much golf.

Never a good idea to bring feelings to a fact fight.
 
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octiny

Banned
This list shows that at least 24 games has +90 metacritic, 71 games between 85 and 89 metacritic, and 119 games between 80 and 84 metacritic.

But of course, if you are only interested in games published by Sony,and literally nothing else, which is not surprising by your post history, then I agree there's nothing valuable on game pass.

Edit: funny. Just got this in my feed. Game pass has over 60 shit filler goty winner games



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First thing wrong with this thread is the idea in the title that Netflix somehow has caused "filler" TV shows to exist. Did you never have cable? I mean I remember as a kid flipping through 130 channels of shit and still not finding something I wanted to watch. Streaming has been awesome for TV. TV budgets are bigger than ever, all the shows are on demand, most services have no ads, and I can cancel whenever I want without breaking some contract and having to pay a fine or having to return any equipment. I'm not even mentioning that most of the best shows that have come out over the last few years are streaming exclusive.

Getting past the silly "filler" idea, Gamepass is super well curated. I have easily tried over a hundred games on it in the last 3 years or so, and I have played a ton of awesome games. Just in the last few months I have played a lot of Yakuza 3 & 4, Forza Horizon 5, Tunic, Brothers, Halo Infinite, Guardians of the Galaxy, Hades, Plague Tale, and Overcooked 2 (with my kids). I have tried probably another 10-15 games that didn't stick with me or I just didn't enjoy.

The other reason this makes no sense is because all the games on Gamepass can still be purchased elsewhere. Not a single one of them is actually "exclusive" to Gamepass, and they all need to stand up in the marketplace. At least so far, no game is being designed for Gamepass only.
 

kingfey

Banned
First thing wrong with this thread is the idea in the title that Netflix somehow has caused "filler" TV shows to exist. Did you never have cable? I mean I remember as a kid flipping through 130 channels of shit and still not finding something I wanted to watch. Streaming has been awesome for TV. TV budgets are bigger than ever, all the shows are on demand, most services have no ads, and I can cancel whenever I want without breaking some contract and having to pay a fine or having to return any equipment. I'm not even mentioning that most of the best shows that have come out over the last few years are streaming exclusive.

Getting past the silly "filler" idea, Gamepass is super well curated. I have easily tried over a hundred games on it in the last 3 years or so, and I have played a ton of awesome games. Just in the last few months I have played a lot of Yakuza 3 & 4, Forza Horizon 5, Tunic, Brothers, Halo Infinite, Guardians of the Galaxy, Hades, Plague Tale, and Overcooked 2 (with my kids). I have tried probably another 10-15 games that didn't stick with me or I just didn't enjoy.

The other reason this makes no sense is because all the games on Gamepass can still be purchased elsewhere. Not a single one of them is actually "exclusive" to Gamepass, and they all need to stand up in the marketplace. At least so far, no game is being designed for Gamepass only.
dont tell him the 1990s-2010s movies.
Those are some of the worst filler I have ever seen in my life.

At least the new movies now is little bit cringey, but those were some of the worst ones.


There were some great gems. But the shit movies at that time, were horrible.
 

THE DUCK

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Why would fixed amount of revenue be a good thing?

That system certainly doesn't sound like it would motivate a studio to go above and beyond the bare minimum when the financial remuneration doesn't scale with the games quality.

Which unless I'm mistaken is what you've just described.

It's probably a double edged sword, what you say could happen in some cases, in others it might help get things done/allow time.

It also might Greenwich some projects that would be considered "risky" in the prior model, since they have the funds regardless of potential sales. (Could lead to some great new games)
 

Hinedorf

Banned
I would dare say most games these days are actual filler games either indie-filler or semi-first party filler.

When you look at the Assassins Creed franchise, I don't know what word defines it better than "filler" the moment you bring up the map
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I would dare say most games these days are actual filler games either indie-filler or semi-first party filler.

When you look at the Assassins Creed franchise, I don't know what word defines it better than "filler" the moment you bring up the map

I played Horizon Forbidden West a few weeks back and the first thing that jumped out was just how much it copes the recent AC games in terms of filler stuff on the map.

The first game wasn't like that.

It's safe to say every modern game is filler to some extent.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I love how OP framed his question in the most loaded, biased way possible and yet his analogy works… just not the way it’s intended.

Netflix does:
- dominate all awards ceremonies (Oscars, TV whatever awards);
- produce some of the best series in recent years (Bojack Horseman, Altered Carbon, Black Mirror);
- give access to plenty of new genres and content from around the world, broadening the horizon and allowing you to discover stuff;
- do so at a fraction of the cost it would take to own or access all that content in the old distribution model.

So in a sense you’re right, there are similarities for sure.

It appears Game Pass is certainly following this Netflix model. They certainly dominated all the game awards with XBox first party achieving the highest average Metacritic score EVER and taking home over 3 times the number of GotY awards as either of the other 2 platform holders.
 
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vj27

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Hmm, people generally think we are in a golden age of TV at the moment
I wouldn’t say golden age. But the streaming age has definitely made Hollywood and them BRANCH out. Hell I still can’t get over how I watched Dune at home on HBO max day 1, castlevania and narcos (the ladder they beat to death ngl) or mind hunters on Netflix. Etc etc, I’ve noticed there’s a lot of shows I dislike more than the cable age but there’s also a lot more show I binge and love in the streaming age. All in all there’s just more variety now.
 
Games arent movies, which is 2 hour watch time.
You have nothing to worry about.
Nothing to worry about? It's different goals. One relies on a steady stream of content and to be as time consuming as possible. The other relies on people seeing $60-70 value worth out of this single product.

That will always lead to differences no matter what.
 
Very few movies and TV relative to their wider library of content but technically right.

The more important thing is what percentage of their revenue comes from the subscription fee.
Sure. The point I was making is there is no parallel with Netflix and Game pass from the perspective of purchasing the content. ALL games on Game pass can be purchased with a discount and played without game pass at all that is clearly not true with Netflix. Netflix rental is their predominant business; Game pass is optional for MS.

Thread says....

Will Gamepass lead to bad filler videogames like Netflix has done to tv shows?​



We are here giving our opinions to the question.
People think it's bad filler get hounded for giving there 2 cents. This is BS
It is because those opinions are made in bad faith and usually nonsense. Most cannot even support their claims such as yourself. Filler games existed before MS even entered console gaming. The premise of the thread is BS.

It appears Game Pass is certainly following this Netflix model. They certainly dominated all the game awards with XBox first party achieving the highest average score and taking home over3 times the number of GotY awards as either of the other 2 platform holders.
Now this I can agree with. Plenty of award winning titles on Netflix and Game pass so that is a pretty important similarity. I wonder how the OP missed that?
 
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R6Rider

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We're talking about neogaf servers, not GT7 servers. They would hold up fine.
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What's with the jab at GT7? The game being unplayable recently had nothing to do with servers being able to "handle" anything.

Reach for the stars.
 

ZoukGalaxy

Gold Member
That's the plan: bait people with some awesome titles then when they are addict, just fill the void with padding.
Once lobotomy done, just read people shouting loud #GP4EVA or "Oh you're buying games, what year it is ? LOUL renting and owning nothing is so much better !"

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ChiefDada

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I hope not. I think GP model has the potential to attract mediocre games as you have suggested, but it also has the potential to provide a platform for stellar games from independent studios that otherwise would have been passed over by large and risk averse publishers.
 

kingfey

Banned
Nothing to worry about? It's different goals. One relies on a steady stream of content and to be as time consuming as possible. The other relies on people seeing $60-70 value worth out of this single product.

That will always lead to differences no matter what.
Games take time to finish. Unlike movies, which takes 1 hour to 2 hour to finish it.

There is also other 3rd party games which people are busy with.

Game subscriptions don't really need to have alot of catalog, but good games, which people play.

People generally play 5-10 hour per week. Or 20-40 hour a month. That is 3-5 games a month to finish.

As long as 3rd party games exist, people will be busy with other games.
 
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8BiTw0LF

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I'm on my 3rd year with GamePass (converted Live to GP - cheap) and I'm not going to re-sub. There's been 2-3 games I've played for awhile, but that's it. Quality may come, but right now GP is filled with games I've got no interest in.
 

kingfey

Banned
I'm on my 3rd year with GamePass (converted Live to GP - cheap) and I'm not going to re-sub. There's been 2-3 games I've played for awhile, but that's it. Quality may come, but right now GP is filled with games I've got no interest in.
What games are you interested in?
have you tried new genre?

I was like you at some point. Never trying new genre. Now I play all kind of genre now.
 

Shifty

Member
AAA games are already filler bullsh-
Hard to tell. Most games already are filler bullshit
Oh right, very good.

Why do we have seven pages when three posts was enough to definitively solve for this topic :messenger_sunglasses:

What games are you interested in?
have you tried new genre?

I was like you at some point. Never trying new genre. Now I play all kind of genre now.
Is making wild assumptions one of those genres, granddad? :messenger_open_mouth: Tell us about the war!
 
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nani17

are in a big trouble
I have gamepass tried flight sim and halo but admittedly I've barely used it not sure why, to be honest.

The PC version just sucks IMO wish they moved all of their stuff to one launcher/store. I know they're closing the Bethesda launcher but just close the Xbox windows app and move everything to the battlenet launcher because it works and rebrand it to something else.
 

8BiTw0LF

Banned
What games are you interested in?
have you tried new genre?

I was like you at some point. Never trying new genre. Now I play all kind of genre now.
I've played games since 87 and tried all genres. GP is great to try new stuff, but I found myself trying a lot of games, without picking them back up - like The Ascent - great atmosphere but so repetitive I lost interest.

Forza Horizon 5 I played for quite some time - especially Battle Royale, but that ruined the rest of the game for me, cause it's the most fun mode in the game.
Halo I tried a couple of times, but the controls haven't been updated in ages and feels like something from the 360-era.

Bethesda games besides Wolfenstein never catched my interest, so I'm not even looking forward to Starfield. If it's good I can play it before my GP sub runs out, but that will probably be my last time subbing to GP.
 
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