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[Goalus]

They are such poor victims.

 

[bxrz]

They are basically saying it without saying it. A business would never say we can't do it. Instead they've said none of the biggest developers on the planet could make a comoetitor. That's basically saying including themselves without saying it.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. They just want to try and stop it going through. I wonder if it will have any effect on it.

This is how I took it aswell.

Mods can update the Title though.

Sorry for the inconvenience

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Elder Scrolls VI exclusive to Xbox, isn't coming to PlayStation

Xbox chief Phil Spencer confirms The Elder Scrolls VI is exclusive to Xbox platforms (including PC) and won't be on PlayStation.

www.tweaktown.com

What's your point?

 

[8BiTw0LF]

CoD, please... Couldn't care less who's getting that franchise, but it's been Sony's cash cow since 2013, so they need to come up with something that can attract the FPS audience - other than Destiny, cause that shit ain't build for competitive play.

Competition is good and I hope Microsoft down the line locks CoD to their platform, so Sony really needs to fight back.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[Loxus]

They are basically saying it without saying it. A business would never say we can't do it. Instead they've said none of the biggest developers on the planet could make a comoetitor. That's basically saying including themselves without saying it.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. They just want to try and stop it going through. I wonder if it will have any effect on it.

If you read carefully, Sony goes on to say:
"In fact, their network of loyal users is so ingrained that even if a competitor had the budget to develop a similar product, it would not be able to create a rival."

Which implies even if the game can match or even surpass COD in terms of graphics and gameplay, COD would still come out on top because it's just to popular, not to mention the fan base is very loyal and wouldn't switch.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Microsoft said they'll continue to support existing communities and honour existing contracts re the Bethesda deal

Microsoft said the above, in addition to pledging that they'll continue to release games beyond those contracts re the Activision deal

Again, listen the lawyers.

Did they say games, or content?

Future warzone "games" would I would assume still come out for playstation as well, with unlockables tied to the mainline releases. Get to have their cake and eat it too

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Did they say games, or content?

Future warzone "games" would I would assume still come out for playstation as well, with unlockables tied to the mainline releases. Get to have their cake and eat it too

They said titles.

Doesn't matter anyway. They didn't use that language with Bethesda. That's the point.

 

[teezzy]

Bring back SOCOM

 

[8BiTw0LF]

Which implies even if the game can match or even surpass COD in terms of graphics and gameplay, COD would still come out on top because it's just to popular, not to mention the fan base is very loyal and wouldn't switch.

Same goes for FIFA. Sony should just buy FIFA and they're good.

 

[SoloKingRobert]

Nobody can rival CoD except the OG ex-CoD devs a k.a. Respawn Entertainment. TF1&2 at their core play exactly like CoD but have their own twist and uniqueness added to it. Most other devs out there don't even know how to make good controls to begin with.

The name alone, Call of Duty will still sell like hotcakes. Titanfall never achieved Cod numbers.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Probably true. Sony likes money. If they could make a game that rivals COD's odd stranglehold on the multiplayer fps market, they would have done it already.

or pay just pay for marketing and early shit. Far cheaper and bring the money too.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I understand why Sony would be wary. It’s not like MS is contractually bound to keep putting COD on PS forever. I think they will keep it multiplat ultimately, but the Xbox versions will be more attractive. Sony can’t drop off a bag of money at Activision anymore and get timed DLC and marketing, that’s all gonna be Xbox now. They could say play it a month early on gamepass. There’s a million different creative ways they can fuck Sony without completely pulling the game off their system.

But, it’s hard for me to feel bad for Sony who absolutely loves paying to keep things off other platforms.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

They aren't going exclusive whatsoever. Mw2 will be on playstation, so will warzone in continuity. They're also going to pc, and phones/tvs through xcloud, as will all mainline titles that aren't on playstation.

ESO is still on playstation, they've announced ES 6 won't be, just like fallout 76 will continue to be, and fallout 5 won't be (in 20 years lol)

Link?

 

[MikeM]

*Me pointing at Warhawk*

Make this!

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Bring back SOCOM

Suck-Cum

A VR story.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Still holding out hope for ES6? OW2

They didn't buy Activision to give 30 percent of revenue to Sony. But they're not going to pull existing games that have been announced (we have examples already) or already exist because it'd be a PR shit storm, and increase scrutiny on future acquisitions.

Did I quote you saying those games?

"Sony will get mw2, continued warzone updates, and never see a mainline entry again"

Going to keep making stuff up?

 

[teezzy]

Suck-Cum

A VR story.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

How many copies have GTA4 and GTAV sold?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

How many copies have GTA4 and GTAV sold?

Why?

 

[ChiefDada]

No, poor OP. Misleading title. Sony does not say none of "their devs" can make a rival to COD.

People don't bother to read past headlines these days. Truly sad.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

They said titles.

Doesn't matter anyway. They didn't use that language with Bethesda. That's the point.

https://www.ign.com/articles/call-of-duty-will-release-on-playstation-warzone-2022

OK so, mw2, warzone 2, and 2023 cod which I was wrong about, but I also remember reading that they were going into a 2 year cycle (could be wrong there as well)

Sounds an awful lot they plan on dropping playstation to me

 

[balls of snow]

Well sony is not gonna just say " Yeah have at it mr phil spencer" after cod had sony marketing for a generation.
I love how apple just cant give any less of a fuck though.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

No, poor OP. Misleading title. Sony does not say none of "their devs" can make a rival to COD.

That is even worst/better for MS/Sony respectively

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

https://www.ign.com/articles/call-of-duty-will-release-on-playstation-warzone-2022

OK so, mw2, warzone 2, and 2023 cod which I was wrong about, but I also remember reading that they were going into a 2 year cycle (could be wrong there as well)

Sounds an awful lot they plan on dropping playstation to me

So you think they're skipping 2023 COD because they plan to drop PS? And not because the yearly releases have become unsustainable which we've all known about?

The contract doesn't void just because of a delay fyi. It just means the contract extends to 2024

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Is that Paris Hilton?

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Did I quote you saying those games?

"Sony will get mw2, continued warzone updates, and never see a mainline entry again"

Going to keep making stuff up?

Call of Duty: Activision Reportedly Wants To Release Next Three Games On PlayStation Despite Xbox Acquisition - IGN

The next three annual Call of Duty games are still set to be released on PlayStation as a result of existing commitments.

www.ign.com

I missed cod 23 which was delayed to 24, so who knows about that

Common sense dictates the rest, will probably still get games like spyro which don't sell consoles (when Nintendo exists), but cod would absolutely shift the market

 

[PanzerAzel]

Is this a bad thing? Not making a game that rivals COD should be worn as a badge of honor.

 

[Kagey K]

Is this a bad thing? Not making a game that rivals COD should be worn as a badge of honor.

If you’re a business that’s adverse to money I suppose.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Why?

Seems like the typical GTA game blows away any COD game in sales. They might not come out often, but what has GTAV sold? Google says 160M.

 

[Kagey K]

Seems like the typical GTA game blows away any COD game in sales. They might not come out often, but what has GTAV sold? Google says 160M.

Individually sure, but CoD has sold as much or more over multiple releases in the same timeframe,

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

So you think they're skipping 2023 COD because they plan to drop PS? And not because the yearly releases have become unsustainable which we've all known about?

The contract doesn't void just because of a delay fyi. It just means the contract extends to 2024

No, I suggested I could easily be wrong for a reason. You could easily be as well, you have no clue whether the contract was for a length of time or number of games or whatever the fuck.

Fwiw I want it to be multiplat so Microsoft feels the need to keep buying and releasing games day one on gamepass.

For all you or I know, they could also just give massive delays to playstation releases, but the idea that they're going to share in perpetuity is asinine

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Seems like the typical GTA game blows away any COD game in sales. They might not come out often, but what has GTAV sold? Google says 160M.

So?

 

[Dr.brain64]

It's a good reason to refuse MS' buy of AB.

 

[PanzerAzel]

If you’re a business that’s adverse to money I suppose.

Sure, and we've seen the lengths companies will go to if capitalism is the sole consideration. And if it is, I don't see how creating a superior franchise to COD in terms of fanbase would even be necessary.

 

[DaGwaphics]

That's probably one of the most desperate statements I've seen them put out. Effective, No. Funny, Yes.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

That's probably one of the most desperate statements I've seen them put out. Effective, No. Funny, Yes.

Are you talking about the OP title of the content after the headline?

 

[Unknown?]

It's creates a monopoly. Monopolies will almost always increasingly become anti-consumer

Microsoft has been anti-consumer for a LONG time. Also this thread title needs changing.... MODS!!!

 

[Kagey K]

That's probably one of the most desperate statements I've seen them put out. Effective, No. Funny, Yes.

Remember when the deal was first announced and people here were trying to convince everyone that losing CoD would have no detrimental effect on Sony?

Seems Sony disagrees.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Are you talking about the OP title of the content after the headline?

I'm talking about this:

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

No, I suggested I could easily be wrong for a reason. You could easily be as well, you have no clue whether the contract was for a length of time or number of games or whatever the fuck.

Fwiw I want it to be multiplat so Microsoft feels the need to keep buying and releasing games day one on gamepass.

For all you or I know, they could also just give massive delays to playstation releases, but the idea that they're going to share in perpetuity is asinine

The contract is for three mainline titles as per your own source. MW2, Warzone 2, and COD 2023 (4) is Microsoft honouring the contracts.

Microsoft have also said they're going to continue to release COD beyond those existing contracts.

Now, you either believe MS are lying to regulators or they're not. Pick whatever

 

[StreetsofBeige]

So?

Seems like GTA surpasses COD to me.

FIFA might even surpass COD too. I think FIFA games sell 20M annually as well.

 

[Topher]

I'm talking about this:

Saying EA, Take-Two and Epic couldn't make a COD rival is funny?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I'm talking about this:

Read the last sentence.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Seems like GTA surpasses COD to me.

FIFA might even surpass COD too. I think FIFA games sell 20M annually as well.

So?. What is the point?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Call of Duty: Activision Reportedly Wants To Release Next Three Games On PlayStation Despite Xbox Acquisition - IGN

The next three annual Call of Duty games are still set to be released on PlayStation as a result of existing commitments.

www.ign.com

I missed cod 23 which was delayed to 24, so who knows about that

Common sense dictates the rest, will probably still get games like spyro which don't sell consoles (when Nintendo exists), but cod would absolutely shift the market

Are you reading what you posted in comparison to what you said?

 

[DaGwaphics]

Saying EA, Take-Two and Epic couldn't make a COD rival is funny?

From the position it's coming from, yes.

There's no reason why EA, Take-Two and Epic can't compete. To even say that about Epic with the $ that Fortnite has brought in over the years, especially with COD recently trying to position against Fortnite and not the other way around.

Unless Activision has some voodoo going we are unaware of, they are just mortal developers like the rest.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

From the position it's coming from, yes.

There's no reason why EA, Take-Two and Epic can't compete. To even say that about Epic with the $ that Fortnite has brought in over the years, especially with COD trying to position against Fortnite and not the other way around.

Unless Activision has some voodoo going we are unaware of, they are just mortal developers like the rest.

They're talking about a rival to COD

The closest thing is Battlefield from EA, which yeah, can't compete with COD

 

[rofif]

Sony: We like to buy stuff but don't like it when our competition does.

The scale is not even comparable.
It’s like buying Doritos vs the whole store

 

[Kagey K]

The scale is not even comparable.
It’s like buying Doritos vs the whole store

Like with psygnosis?