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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 IOTI Keep Your Friends Close And Your Danger Closer

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
As Im playing this, I cant help but think how much more fucking awesome it would be with destructable environments. Let me level some buildings. I'm in a tank!

Theres well over 2000+ people workin on this thing, surely the current gen only MW3 should have that feature.
That is for sure the next level they need to take this game.

When someone is hiding in a window sniping and I have a rocket launcher let me blow some holes in the walls
 

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That is for sure the next level they need to take this game.

When someone is hiding in a window sniping and I have a rocket launcher let me blow some holes in the walls
Yea. They need to take shit to the next level. Enough of the status quo. This is a WAR game. And this is arguably the biggest dev team in the industry, with a practically unlimited budget. How people don't make more noise about this is beyond me. Reddit should be full of people demanding destructible environments like they do 60fps games.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
As Im playing this, I cant help but think how much more fucking awesome it would be with destructable environments. Let me level some buildings. I'm in a tank!

Theres well over 2000+ people workin on this thing, surely the current gen only MW3 should have that feature.

For Ground War maps sure that would be awesome. I wouldn’t want destruction in my 6v6 arcadey maps tho. Those are for runnin and gunnin.
 

splattered

Member
Gamespot recommends Fidelity CAS set at 50. Here are Gamespot's best settings for controller and console graphics. I've been playing with these settings and I'm not a great player but they seem good to me...

Inputs​

  • Button Layout Preset: Tactical
  • Flip L1/R1 with L2/R2: Off
  • Stick Layout Preset: Default
  • Controller Vibration: Off
  • Trigger Effect (PS5): Off

Aiming​

  • Horizontal Stick Sensitivity: 6
  • Vertical Stick Sensitivity: 6
  • ADS Sensitivity Multiplier: 1.00
  • Sensitivity Multiplier:
    • Third Person: 1.00
    • Ground Vehicles: 1.00
    • Air Vehicles: 1.00
    • Tablet: 1.00
  • Vertical Aim Axis:
    • Vertical Aim On Foot: Standard
    • Vertical Aim Third Person: Standard
    • Vertical Aim Ground Vehicles: Standard
    • Vertical Aim Air Vehicles: Standard
    • Gameplay​

      • Aim Down Sight Behavior: Hold
      • Automatic Sprint: Automatic Tactical Sprint
      • Equipment Behavior: Hold
      • Weapon Mount Activation: ADS + Melee
      • Interact/Reload Behavior: Prioritize Reload
    • Advanced controls​

      Aim assist​

      • Target Aim Assist: On
      • Aim Assist Type: Default
      • Aim Response Curve Type: Standard
      • ADS Aim Assist: On
    • Aiming​

      • ADS Sens. Multiplier: 1.00
      • ADS Sensitivity Transition Timing: Instant
      • Custom Sensitivity Per Zoom: Off
      • Inputs Deadzone:
        • Left Stick Min: 0.3
        • Right Stick Min: 0.3
        • Left Stick Max: 0.99
        • Right Stick Max: 0.99
        • L2 Button: 0.3
        • R2 Button: 0.3
    • Movement Behaviors​

      • Sprint/Tactical Sprint Behavior: Toggle
      • Auto Move Forward: Off
      • Tactical Sprint Behavior: Single Tap Sprint
      • Grounded Mantle: Off
      • Automatic Airborne Mantle: Partial
      • Automatic Ground Mantle: Off
      • Invert Slide and Dive Behavior: Standard
      • Plunging Underwater: Movement
      • Sprinting Door Bash: On
    • Combat Behaviors​

      • ADS Stick Swap: Off
      • Backpack Alternate Control: Off
      • ADS Interruption Behavior: Interrupt
      • Weapon Mount Movement Exit: On
      • Weapon Mount Exit Delay: Medium
      • Depleted Ammo Weapon Switch: On
      • Quick C4 Detonation: On
    • Vehicle Behaviors​

      • Vehicle Camera Recenter: Short Delay
      • Camera Initial Position: Free Look
    • Overlays Behavior​

      • Scoreboard Behavior: Toggle
      • Ping Wheel Delay: Moderate
      • Double Tap Danger Ping Delay: Moderate
    • Best graphics settings for console​

      Details and textures​

      • On Demand Texture Streaming: Off
      • World Motion Blur: Off
      • Weapon Motion Blue: Off
      • Film Grain: 0.00
      • Depth of Field: Off
      • FIDELITYFZ CAS: On
      • FIDELITYFZ CAS Strength: 50
    • View​

      • Field of View: 100.00
        • ADS: Field of View: Affected
        • Weapon Field of View: Default
      • First-Person Camera View: Least 50%
      • Third-Person Camera View: Least 50%
      • Brightness: Adjust brightness to your specific monitor/TV
      • Safe Area: Adjust to your specific monitor/TV

I just tried my very first match in multiplayer and used these settings... did fine but it seems overly aggressive and twitchy? I feel like this COD is geared more towards mid-long range engagements but doing anything with this control setup makes me scream forward with my gun in the air haha i might tweak it a bit i dunno.
 

lem0n

Member
Played on keyboard and mouse for the first time last night, game was transformed. It's SO much better. Being a CoD player with a controller since OG Xbox days it never occured to me to just try. Welp never going back now. I don't consider myself as dexterous on K&M as I am on controller, especially in heated combat, but overall the control I have now is just unparalleled. inb4 "well no shit" lulz
 

Stafford

Member
A few questions regarding the maps.

I have been playing TDM for a hour or two and I notice how we keep coming back to the same map a bit too fast. Weren't there like 11 maps for TDM? It should work off a list of maps, right? Or does it randomly select them? Because we had the race track, we had the market, two others and then we went back to the market again.

And as for third person mosh pit, I'm quite liking third person in this game but it only seems to have a few maps, not as many different ones as the first person modes?
 
Weird, bought the vault edition and it's not registering. Restored my list, rebooted and playing the store or battle pass wont even come up in the menus. You would think they would have this shit worked out by now.
 

Gerdav

Member
Weird, bought the vault edition and it's not registering. Restored my list, rebooted and playing the store or battle pass wont even come up in the menus. You would think they would have this shit worked out by now.
The battle pass doesn’t start until November 16th and the store has been like that on and off since yesterday, just check your operators, if you have Ghost, Soap, Price and Farah and the cinder blueprints for guns your vault edition is all fine.
 
The battle pass doesn’t start until November 16th and the store has been like that on and off since yesterday, just check your operators, if you have Ghost, Soap, Price and Farah and the cinder blueprints for guns your vault edition is all fine.
Thanks for the info!, now why would they start the battle pass after launch.
 

nikos

Member
The footstep audio is once again pretty much non-existent. It was almost decent in the beta until people with poor headphones complained that it was too loud. Now I have to use an audio preset with almost no dynamic range, and it's still inaudible.
 

Stafford

Member
Gamespot recommends Fidelity CAS set at 50. Here are Gamespot's best settings for controller and console graphics. I've been playing with these settings and I'm not a great player but they seem good to me...

Inputs​

  • Button Layout Preset: Tactical
  • Flip L1/R1 with L2/R2: Off
  • Stick Layout Preset: Default
  • Controller Vibration: Off
  • Trigger Effect (PS5): Off

Aiming​

  • Horizontal Stick Sensitivity: 6
  • Vertical Stick Sensitivity: 6
  • ADS Sensitivity Multiplier: 1.00
  • Sensitivity Multiplier:
    • Third Person: 1.00
    • Ground Vehicles: 1.00
    • Air Vehicles: 1.00
    • Tablet: 1.00
  • Vertical Aim Axis:
    • Vertical Aim On Foot: Standard
    • Vertical Aim Third Person: Standard
    • Vertical Aim Ground Vehicles: Standard
    • Vertical Aim Air Vehicles: Standard
    • Gameplay​

      • Aim Down Sight Behavior: Hold
      • Automatic Sprint: Automatic Tactical Sprint
      • Equipment Behavior: Hold
      • Weapon Mount Activation: ADS + Melee
      • Interact/Reload Behavior: Prioritize Reload
    • Advanced controls​

      Aim assist​

      • Target Aim Assist: On
      • Aim Assist Type: Default
      • Aim Response Curve Type: Standard
      • ADS Aim Assist: On
    • Aiming​

      • ADS Sens. Multiplier: 1.00
      • ADS Sensitivity Transition Timing: Instant
      • Custom Sensitivity Per Zoom: Off
      • Inputs Deadzone:
        • Left Stick Min: 0.3
        • Right Stick Min: 0.3
        • Left Stick Max: 0.99
        • Right Stick Max: 0.99
        • L2 Button: 0.3
        • R2 Button: 0.3
    • Movement Behaviors​

      • Sprint/Tactical Sprint Behavior: Toggle
      • Auto Move Forward: Off
      • Tactical Sprint Behavior: Single Tap Sprint
      • Grounded Mantle: Off
      • Automatic Airborne Mantle: Partial
      • Automatic Ground Mantle: Off
      • Invert Slide and Dive Behavior: Standard
      • Plunging Underwater: Movement
      • Sprinting Door Bash: On
    • Combat Behaviors​

      • ADS Stick Swap: Off
      • Backpack Alternate Control: Off
      • ADS Interruption Behavior: Interrupt
      • Weapon Mount Movement Exit: On
      • Weapon Mount Exit Delay: Medium
      • Depleted Ammo Weapon Switch: On
      • Quick C4 Detonation: On
    • Vehicle Behaviors​

      • Vehicle Camera Recenter: Short Delay
      • Camera Initial Position: Free Look
    • Overlays Behavior​

      • Scoreboard Behavior: Toggle
      • Ping Wheel Delay: Moderate
      • Double Tap Danger Ping Delay: Moderate
    • Best graphics settings for console​

      Details and textures​

      • On Demand Texture Streaming: Off
      • World Motion Blur: Off
      • Weapon Motion Blue: Off
      • Film Grain: 0.00
      • Depth of Field: Off
      • FIDELITYFZ CAS: On
      • FIDELITYFZ CAS Strength: 50
    • View​

      • Field of View: 100.00
        • ADS: Field of View: Affected
        • Weapon Field of View: Default
      • First-Person Camera View: Least 50%
      • Third-Person Camera View: Least 50%
      • Brightness: Adjust brightness to your specific monitor/TV
      • Safe Area: Adjust to your specific monitor/TV

I'll check this out tomorrow.

Anything about the HDR settings? I've left them at default for now.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Through regular 6v6 I have maxed out

M4
Lachman 762
Vel 46
Lockwood 300

All have been really satisfying to use, even the damn shotgun which I was dreading. The attachments are also all great except for the shotgun Slug ammo which is a novelty at best.
 

Mossybrew

Member
I am surprised how much I am enjoying the multiplayer, though Im an Old and havent played a cod for many years, it all still seems comfortable and familiar. Level 31 after playing a lot last night and today, and for a filthy casual I do pretty good, usually top 3 on the team at least, so the sbmm seems to be working in my experience. You just go into every match knowing youre gonna die a lot and not worry about it cause you respawn so quick.
 
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Mattdaddy

Gold Member
Man Im playing on PC and I get a crash to desktop with the error report box at least hourly... maybe every 30 to 45 minutes.

This exact same thing was happening in the Beta and I wrote it off as just a bug.

Now its still happening on release... im playing in a party with Friends who are on Xbox and Im on PC if that matters.

Anyone else having this issue?? So frustrating... its almost making the game unplayable it happens so often. I cant even get through more than 1 or 2 full matches.

Ive done the "run as administrator" and "driver updates" song and dance already, no luck.
 

clarky

Gold Member
Man Im playing on PC and I get a crash to desktop with the error report box at least hourly... maybe every 30 to 45 minutes.

This exact same thing was happening in the Beta and I wrote it off as just a bug.

Now its still happening on release... im playing in a party with Friends who are on Xbox and Im on PC if that matters.

Anyone else having this issue?? So frustrating... its almost making the game unplayable it happens so often. I cant even get through more than 1 or 2 full matches.

Ive done the "run as administrator" and "driver updates" song and dance already, no luck.
Widespread issue unfortunately. Now its out in the wild i'd expect hotfixes for this kind of thing fairly quickly.
 

MastAndo

Member
The campaign was so-so. Too many stealth sections which I don't like in general, and particularly don't like in a CoD game where I just want to shoot shit. There was also some frustrating sequences where my squadmates turn to statues and do nothing while I get swarmed - namely Price at the end of the Ghost Team mission. The graphics are impressive though with some cool action sequences, with an interesting enough story to keep things moving, and gunplay is (not surprisingly) on point.

Moved on to MP and it wasn't as disastrous as I anticipated. I'm a filthy casual potato, but was able to manage a 1.0+ K/D in my first 4-5 matches and probably would have fared even better if I had a clue about any of these maps and wasn't getting constantly snuck up on. It helped that the campaign rewards you with a Union Guard M4 blueprint, so I didn't feel underpowered weapons-wise. I fully expect SBMM to kick in soon enough though and my geriatric ass will start getting stomped.

The UI, as many others have said, is a convoluted mess. I mean, why can't I even see any sort of timer on my XP tokens? Inexcusable oversight.
 
I know the museum map has gone missing but has anyone played on the Amsterdam Hotel that was in the beta? I'm already level 55 with six guns maxed and I haven't played on that map once? Maybe I'm not playing the right modes? My core 5 have been TDM, Domination, kill confirmed, Hardpoint, HQ, and a couple rounds of ground war.

Also, if you use your Double XP tokens, there doesn't seem to be a countdown clock to know how much time you have left once you've activated it. If anyone knows how to look/find it in this crap UI let me know because I've just been using the timer on my phone. This seems like a big oversight if it's not in the game.
 

SteadyEvo

Member
This is the 1st call of duty I’ve bought since Advanced Warfare. Love it. The campaign. Multiplayer. The jaggy and sometimes low resolution of the Series S version. Gives it that old school video game feel.

Kinda reminds me of Blops 2 on WiiU in terms of the fun I’m having.

Love the grounded feel to the campaign.

Money well spent
 

Arsic

Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Did they disable pinging for everyone ?

I haven’t been able to do it at all today and I noticed no one does it anymore where yesterday at least a few of us would ping.
 

TheZink

Member
Did they disable pinging for everyone ?

I haven’t been able to do it at all today and I noticed no one does it anymore where yesterday at least a few of us would ping.
Yes. There was a glitch that if you marked someone when you died it would track them the entire match for the enemy team.
 
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GhostOfTsu

Banned
Deleted Modern Warfare 2019 to make space for this and it gave me 200gb on my external and 40gb on my internal PS5 SSD

Relaxed Feels Good GIF


Bye forever 😁
 
At the risk of sounding like a casual potato gamer, I look forward to COD campaigns, and this one is my favorite since Infinite Warfare.

Multi-player has been a blast. Played with friends for around 12 hours and I lost track of time. Not often that that happens to me these days.

Easily the best COD since MW 2019.
 

GenericUser

Member
For sure. I don't care about the XP cause I'm going for max prestige. Just want gold camo on all launchers lol
There is no traditional prestige in this game, only seasonal prestiging. Right now, you can't prestige at all, becauae the first season hasn't even started yet.
 
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Gerdav

Member
I know the museum map has gone missing but has anyone played on the Amsterdam Hotel that was in the beta? I'm already level 55 with six guns maxed and I haven't played on that map once? Maybe I'm not playing the right modes? My core 5 have been TDM, Domination, kill confirmed, Hardpoint, HQ, and a couple rounds of ground war.

Also, if you use your Double XP tokens, there doesn't seem to be a countdown clock to know how much time you have left once you've activated it. If anyone knows how to look/find it in this crap UI let me know because I've just been using the timer on my phone. This seems like a big oversight if it's not in the game.
The hotel map is on rotation, I’m playing mostly the same game modes as you but am only level 27, but I have only played it maybe 2/3 times max, it’s by far the map that’s come up the least in my experience in these modes.
 

Stafford

Member
Does anyone know how map selection works in this game?

Played all evening yesterday, team DM in both first and third person matches and it seems the latter has very few maps. And in the normal team DM we got the same maps quite often. Does it randomly select maps? I thought it would just work off a list of maps in order each time.
 
I know the museum map has gone missing but has anyone played on the Amsterdam Hotel that was in the beta? I'm already level 55 with six guns maxed and I haven't played on that map once? Maybe I'm not playing the right modes? My core 5 have been TDM, Domination, kill confirmed, Hardpoint, HQ, and a couple rounds of ground war.

Yes, I got the map once. TDM.
 

SkylineRKR

Member
Breenbergh? Yesterday I got it twice in a row. It rotates a lot for me. Usually on Dom or TDM.
The campaign was so-so. Too many stealth sections which I don't like in general, and particularly don't like in a CoD game where I just want to shoot shit. There was also some frustrating sequences where my squadmates turn to statues and do nothing while I get swarmed - namely Price at the end of the Ghost Team mission. The graphics are impressive though with some cool action sequences, with an interesting enough story to keep things moving, and gunplay is (not surprisingly) on point.

Moved on to MP and it wasn't as disastrous as I anticipated. I'm a filthy casual potato, but was able to manage a 1.0+ K/D in my first 4-5 matches and probably would have fared even better if I had a clue about any of these maps and wasn't getting constantly snuck up on. It helped that the campaign rewards you with a Union Guard M4 blueprint, so I didn't feel underpowered weapons-wise. I fully expect SBMM to kick in soon enough though and my geriatric ass will start getting stomped.

The UI, as many others have said, is a convoluted mess. I mean, why can't I even see any sort of timer on my XP tokens? Inexcusable oversight.

You're spot on bro. The campaign was too much stealth, and eventually they sort of tried to ape Last of Us with makeshift weapons and more stealth. CoD to me is mostly just set pieces of grandeur. With the stealth and sneaking here, it feels more low key. And the few set pieces, like the highway, they weren't well done. I think the first half of the campaign was good (esp. the Mexico mission, and the all ghillied up retake), but the latter half is bottom of the barrel for me.

To be honest I even liked the Vanguard campaign better than the rest of the MW2 campaign. The flamethrower assault on the bunkers in the pacific theatre for example, the sniper level with the girl and the face off against the top nazi (i know they aped TLOU again), the final level where you rotate between all heroes... I had some fun there.

MP is decent. Its less frustrating to me than MW 2019. I think the skins are better visible and there is camping, but it seems to be less. The map design in general feels better to me. SBMM is rampant. It mix up very good games with terrible games, but I just exit out if I don't like the flow.
 

Stafford

Member
Why do they have texture streaming off ?

Gamespot:

For the On-Demand Texture Streaming, it's unclear how much data this uses. If you have unlimited data then it can't hurt to turn it on, but set this to off or limited if you have a data cap. You could set the setting's download limit to something small. It also requires 25GB of extra storage, which is something you might not want to use up.
 
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Stafford

Member
Is the HDR setting gone for anyone else? This was an issue in the beta on XSX and it is now too. It is nowhere to be found.
 

GenericUser

Member
Whoever came up with the idea of the perk system needs to be fired ASAP.
The first team that gets a UAV usually wins. UAVs are by far the best killstreak now and they only require 4 kills. There have been times when the enemy had like 6(!) UAVs in the sky at once. Of course, I'm the only one shooting them down. I'm really forcing myself to level 55. Such a shitty experience.

Tip: If you are on console, deactivate HDR. Without HDR. you can turn up the brightness which helps seeing things.
 
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Boneless

Member
I don’t get this crap. Why not just, you know, enjoy the game and get stuff as you go? Why do you need to do the most boring thing and cheese just to max level day 1. Like cheating, how is that any fun? Humans will do whatever they can to somehow take the joy out of everything. Makes no sense to me.

Because uploading day 1 stuff means clicks and clicks = money.
 

Stafford

Member
I did some Googling and yep, on PC you can access brightness/HDR settings but on console you're fucked, unless you want to remove your save file.

What....the.....fuck? So if you were to buy a new TV, and you have the wrong settings for HDR, you'd need to delete all your progress. Who came up with this?
 
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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
I don’t get this crap. Why not just, you know, enjoy the game and get stuff as you go? Why do you need to do the most boring thing and cheese just to max level day 1. Like cheating, how is that any fun? Humans will do whatever they can to somehow take the joy out of everything. Makes no sense to me.
Because not everyone enjoys grinding through all the weapons just for camos and some weapons that suck you just want done
 

Winkle

Member
Where’s the hardcore game modes? I know it’s there coz on a private games you can set it to hardcore Sort it out
 

Rossco EZ

Member
they need to sort out the spamming of kill streaks in invasion, i spawn and get hit with a cluster strike or whatever right off the bat at our hq. happens way to often, shouldn’t be able to target the spawn like that.

is crossplay between xbox and pc having trouble? can’t invite my friend on pc for some reason
 
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Stafford

Member
I missed last years COD but bought this one and its defiantly a step up in the graphics department

SP wise? Because MP i would say it's fine but nothing too special. The gap between SP and MP stays huge. I get that for modes where you have tons of players but for team DM graphics like SP would be very welcome. It doesn't work that way, I know.
 

Stafford

Member
3rd person is honestly some of the most fun I've had in years with online gaming. Woooooh.

Maybe I was just unlucky yesterday but it does seem there aren't a lot of maps for it though, sadly. We kept getting about three different ones and there should be waaaaaay more.
 

Roufianos

Member
Maybe I was just unlucky yesterday but it does seem there aren't a lot of maps for it though, sadly. We kept getting about three different ones and there should be waaaaaay more.
I think because it's a 'Moshpit' the maps rotate daily. Hopefully we get some actual dedicated modes soon.
 
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