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[oldergamer]

I honestly don't play any Activision or Blizzard games except Diablo. Not a huge deal to me personally. But I do think it's a bit ridiculous still to block this on the merits of competition when all I see is Sony dominance and anti-competitive actions frequently. I think the FTC is picking the wrong fight 100%. Xbox being stronger is going to result in more competition at this point. But not the end of the world for me either way, as far as what I personally play. MS can buy small studios and they will probably have more stuff I'm actually interested in. This will certainly be maximum drama.

that is pretty spot on.

 

[Swift_Star]

I honestly feel relieved that this deal might either get blocked or at least they'll forbid MS from making games exclusive.
By all means, MS, compete, make marketing deals or timed exclusive but don't go buying whole fucking publishers and hamper competition further.
Get good at your job, MS.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

With all these lawsuits, today has been fun.

 

[Dolomite]

Now the shower begins

FWIW the FTC loss in court against 3 different mergers last September (2022) alone

 

[MisterXDTV]

100% sure they are pretending.
If I had life savings I would put everything on it.

Straight up fact they want Activision games to be removed from playstation.

The Xbox warriors are getting more and more confused by the minute:

- First they cheered for CoD exclusivity when the deal was announced

- Yesterday they cheered when the "Nintendo deal" was announced because they were sure the deal would go through after that

- Now they want MS to fight and win in court so they can make CoD exclusive again....

Amazing

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

All this over candy crush.

If this does fall through I hope it has long term ramifications on exclusives specifically timed and exclusive marketing perks company to company. If it just ends with them unable to buy but no impact on the things Sony is complaining about that will be silly.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

Nothing was lost, everyone can still play Call of Duty.

This is the funniest part. Xbox gamers actually lose nothing by this deal being blocked.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

A small point of contention, the FTC doesn't 'allow' mergers to happen, they have to both sue, and win in a court of law to block a merger from happening.

The burden of convincing the court is on the State.

 

[Unrivaledx88]

Good block it, microsoft needs to stop taking the easy way out and build from within, create games from with in and not take the easy way out buying everything and then poorly managing companies.

 

[Punished Miku]

This is the funniest part. Xbox gamers actually lose nothing by this deal being blocked.

Except Sony continuing to block the games on GP.

 

[feynoob]

I honestly feel relieved that this deal might either get blocked or at least they'll forbid MS from making games exclusive.
By all means, MS, compete, make marketing deals or timed exclusive but don't go buying whole fucking publishers and hampers competition further.

If the deal is approved, it would set fire on the market.
Concession or no Concession, this deal would signal to the big dogs that gaming market is open business.

Expect big purchases with no limits, because activision was the biggest of all prizes.

Your favorite publisher is going to be bought, by someone you dont like.

I personally want it to fail hard, so these shit dont happen. I already lost bethesda to MS.

 

[NEbeast]

Oops.....

What do you expect them to say? This could(probably will) tank Activision stocks. They are getting out in front of the fire.

 

[Swift_Star]

This is the funniest part. Xbox gamers actually lose nothing by this deal being blocked.

They lose their one and only chance of being 1st place and having their overlord ruling over the market.
Which is MS's endgame.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

“Let us compete”

Then compete. Make better games. Have a better annual release schedule. Stop talking about where and how you play and more about what you play. Show off your console with better games end features than the competition.

 

[Raonak]

Nothing good has ever come out of MS accruing something.

 

[MisterXDTV]

They lose their one and only chance of being 1st place and having their overlord ruling over their market.
Which is MS's endgame.

After 20 years of irrelevance worldwide, I don't blame them....

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Except Sony continuing to block the games on GP.

They're free to outbid Sony on marketing deals

 

[FoxMcChief]

Now the shower begins

FWIW the FTC loss in court against 3 different mergers last September (2022) alone

FTC v MS team

 

[Swift_Star]

Except Sony continuing to block the games on GP.

You're free to buy games.
You're not entitled to have every game on a sub.
The games aren't on PS+ either.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Except Sony continuing to block the games on GP.*

*on select games they have extensive marketing rights to.

Publishers/Developers are just as much to blame.

 

[Punished Miku]

You're free to buy games.
You're not entitled to have every game on a sub.
The games aren't on PS+ either.

So now competition is bad. Funny how that works.

 

[SLB1904]

Except Sony continuing to block the games on GP.

Lmfao do you think Sony is blocking cod from gamepass? Microsoft can't afford put cod on gamepass. Dont be crazy

 

[Dolomite]

They think they can do whatever they want because they are rich... Not this time...

That feels personal what'd they do to you

 

[DForce]

I genuinely think that it does. Pretty obviously too. Thats the only reason I'd prefer it goes through. I barely even play these games personally.

Pick one. Because MS isnt pro gamers, They are pro profit.

I don't need to pick one. as it stands right now, PS and XB gamers can play COD. The largest user base on console gets it removed. This is not a pro-gamer move no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

This is the funniest part. Xbox gamers actually lose nothing by this deal being blocked.

Nah. I want these games on gamepass. I think people don’t understand that’s the biggest want for most Xbox fans. Not paying 70$ a year for cod is great for me.

 

[DeepEnigma]

They're free to outbid Sony on marketing deals

Apparently they have $70b worth. Though, that may be less profitable for a sub.

 

[Swift_Star]

So now competition is bad. Funny how that works.

The games are on Xbox.
Also, MS can outbid Sony is marketing deals.
Too bad they're incompetent at competing unless they're making power moves.

 

[GHG]

All I have to say is that if this goes to court the documents and revelations that will come out of it will be delicious, particularly on the contracts side of things.

Much crow will be eaten. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

 

[analog_future]

This is the funniest part. Xbox gamers actually lose nothing by this deal being blocked.

Sir, have you never heard of Game Pass?

 

[DeepEnigma]

All I have to say is that if this goes to court the documents and revelations that will come out of it will be delicious, particularly on the contracts side of things.

Much crow will be eaten. Those who life in glass houses should not throw stones.

Hopefully they don't seal half of the meaty stuff and let it rain like Apple/Epic.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

The Xbox warriors are getting more and more confused by the minute:

- First they cheered for CoD exclusivity when the deal was announced

- Yesterday they cheered when the "Nintendo deal" was announced because they were sure the deal would go through after that

- Now they want MS to fight and win in court so they can make CoD exclusive again....

Amazing

Pay close attention to the end outcome of all this. I've saved your post.

 

[DJ12]

The FTC has an incredibly weak argument if their source is self-defeating via the MS conclusion to Bethesda's purchase.

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Or maybe the ftc are privy to what MS told the EU.

I doubt they give 2 fuqs what MS said to the CMA recently.

As usual though pretty large stretch linking what you quoted to what the FTC said.

It couldn't be any clearer, MS misled the EU for the bethesda deal to be passed.

Guess we'll find out in court. As it really is the deal breaker.

Update before adam shits a brick, the quote is from the eu summary document not my fault he cannot make a working link, shame he didnt read on as he wouldve seen exactly what the FTC had said.

 

[Punished Miku]

I don't need to pick one. as it stands right now, PS and XB gamers can play COD. The largest user base on console gets it removed. This is not a pro-gamer move no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

It was never going to be removed.

 

[MisterXDTV]

That feels personal what'd they do to you

Not at all, it's a point of principle you can apply to many big companies

 

[K' Dash]

maybe they should just handle better the moneyhat bidding wars and stomp Sony for a few years, they have the money to do it

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Pay close attention to the end outcome of all this. I've saved your post.

Nothing good comes from a gangsta saving your posts

 

[DeepEnigma]

It was never going to be removed.

So you agree that 10 year "commitment" bullshittery was just that? PR bullshit?

 

[jm89]

It was never going to be removed.

It's amazing how naive some of you are, just because phil said it right?

 

[MisterXDTV]

Pay close attention to the end outcome of all this. I've saved your post.

Is that a threat?

 

[SLB1904]

Nah. I want these games on gamepass. I think people don’t understand that’s the biggest want for most Xbox fans. Not paying 70$ a year for cod is great for me.

Then people say you guys dont buy games suddenly everyone get offended

...

 

[DForce]

It was never going to be removed.

Original 3 year deal and then 10.

Now reports seem to be saying MS backed out on their promise to release certain zenimax games on PS?

Yeah, seems like they don't intend to keep it on PS for more than that.

 

[Punished Miku]

So you agree that 10 year "commitment" bullshittery was just that? PR bullshit?

It was an excessively generous, unnecessary and unrequired contract that no one else has ever really done prior because Sony was lying and exaggerating. I agree with Gabe's take on it.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Except Sony continuing to block the games on GP.

How dare they.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

Except Sony continuing to block the games on GP.

Why does this happen? Because Sony pays for it as part of their marketing rights. Which not only changes hands every few years normally, but are governed entirely by one thing: money. And I promise you, the marketing rights for CoD costs significantly less than $69 billion.

Nah. I want these games on gamepass. I think people don’t understand that’s the biggest want for most Xbox fans. Not paying 70$ a year for cod is great for me.

Again, Microsoft can pay Activision to put CoD on Gamepass right now if they wanted to (once the Sony marketing rights are up). And every other Activision game. And every Blizzard game. Everything can be on Gamepass right now if Microsoft wanted. Maybe ask Microsoft why they arent.

 

[harmonize]

lmao this is gonna be a funny thread to look back on in a year's time. MS will give a few concession and beat the case.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It was an excessively generous, unnecessary and unrequited contract that no one else has ever really done prior. I agree with Gabe's take on it.

In which Gabe didn't sign, because while he fluffed the PR, he knew it was unnecessary BS.

 

[M1chl]

All I have to say is that if this goes to court the documents and revelations that will come out of it will be delicious, particularly on the contracts side of things.

Much crow will be eaten. Those who life in glass houses should not throw stones.

Can't wait for that insider details

 

[analog_future]

Lmfao do you think Sony is blocking cod from gamepass? Microsoft can't afford put cod on gamepass. Dont be crazy

Call of Duty blocked from Game Pass due to Sony deal

Crazy, isn’t it?

 

[Dolomite]

I don't need to pick one. as it stands right now, PS and XB gamers can play COD. The largest user base on console gets it removed. This is not a pro-gamer move no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

Show me where anyone, at any point threatened to remove COD from playstation. Hell Nintendo signed a 10 yr deal and the merger hasn't even gone through. The deal with Sony afaik is still on the table. Last month Sony fans were trying to convince us that MS would Never pull it from ps because it's free revenue, now we're scared that "The largest user base on console gets it removed."

 

[Punished Miku]

How dare they.

Yeah competition against a new distribution model that benefits consumers is bad now. Got it. Picked up on that huge 180 earlier.